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McCain "A La Carte" bill voted down!

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Sen. John McCain's effort to get cable operators to offer their services per channel to subscribers that wanted it by offering incentives failed to clear the Senate Commerce Committee today, losing in a 20-2 vote. However, a couple of senators said this issue`s not totally dead with today's vote & that cable should step up to the plate in the future. You may need a paid/free trial subscription to read in full http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6347942.html
 
jellyeggs said:
Sen. John McCain's effort to get cable operators to offer their services per channel to subscribers that wanted it by offering incentives failed to clear the Senate Commerce Committee today, losing in a 20-2 vote. However, a couple of senators said this issue`s not totally dead with today's vote & that cable should step up to the plate in the future. You may need a paid/free trial subscription to read in full http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6347942.html
As it should fail. The stupid politicians just do NOT get it.
 
network said:
As it should fail. The stupid politicians just do NOT get it.
Please explain what is so stupid about "A La Carte" on cable. Is this stupid because someone is trying to incent the companies to offer a-la-carte channels rather than to mandate it? Personally I want the government to mandate it so I would be able to direct my fees to support only those channel I want to watch, rather than to support some channels involuntarily...channels that I want to die.
 
Sp1c3run said:
Please explain what is so stupid about "A La Carte" on cable. Is this stupid because someone is trying to incent the companies to offer a-la-carte channels rather than to mandate it? Personally I want the government to mandate it so I would be able to direct my fees to support only those channel I want to watch, rather than to support some channels involuntarily...channels that I want to die.

What I see as stupid is the legislators wasting our money on debating "incentives" in a private industry offering an optional, luxury service. There's no public welfare issue, no national defense issue....in short, no need to waste taxpayer time and taxes on something out of their duties.

Government needs to shrink, and stay the heck out of things the Constitution doesn't specifically say it should be involved in.
 
If there are channels that subscribers find objectionable, they should familiarize themselves with the channel lockout features on their cable or satellite box. ;)

A La Carte probably won't save much money, if any, and might result in many desirable channels disappearing. Besides, the combo plate at any restaurant is cheaper than ordering everything separately. ;D

And yes, politicians need to find better things to do. Why do they spend time on such nonsense? Your tax dollars at waste. ::)

Memo to the right-wing preachers pushing A La Carte: The first thing I would get rid of with such a scheme would be all the religious channels. :D
 
I've said it before and I'll say it again: a la carte would lead to higher cable rates and fewer channels.

Some smaller channels would go dark, but most of the big popular ones would jack up their per-household rates to become premium channels. They would cut down or eliminate ads, allow more profanity on air and charge you at least 5 bucks a month to watch. Many would take them up on that offer willingly, others would do so grudgingly. In most cases, cable rates would double or triple while the number of channels would drop by half or more.

The only winners out of this deal would be the broadcast stations. Their viewership would go up as cable stations died off.
 
Mediafrog+ said:
Memo to the right-wing preachers pushing A La Carte: The first thing I would get rid of with such a scheme would be all the religious channels. :D

Bad news then. Those channels are considered public interest channels, and are free. So like the shop at home channels, even under a "a la carte", you would have abunch of religious, shopping, government (NASA, local, school), and public interest (which most cable system pick a religious channel for anyway. Directv recently replaced PBS you, with one.) ontop of whatever channels you decided to pay for.

tested said:
I've said it before and I'll say it again: a la carte would lead to higher cable rates and fewer channels.

Some smaller channels would go dark, but most of the big popular ones would jack up their per-household rates to become premium channels. They would cut down or eliminate ads, allow more profanity on air and charge you at least 5 bucks a month to watch. Many would take them up on that offer willingly, others would do so grudgingly. In most cases, cable rates would double or triple while the number of channels would drop by half or more.

The only winners out of this deal would be the broadcast stations. Their viewership would go up as cable stations died off.
Alot of niche channels would go dark. HDTV, most digital cable channels for sure, ofcoarse most of them turn away from the niche programing after awhile anyway.

Fewer channels is ofcoarse obvisous. Even if none went dark, very few would order all of them. However, I don't think it would be that bad. I think you would see alot of clustering. Much like HBO, with HBO family, HBO comedy, ect. For example, time warner might package tbs, court tv, TnT, ect at a lower price, then to buy them individually. NBC, might have USA, sci-fi, Bravo together. MTV might join up with VH1, and offer all its current digital cable music channels with a MTV/VH! package. Ofcoarse ESPN, would be espn, espn2, espnews, and espnclassics.

I don't think they would all try and be like premium channels. Some would allow more bad language, and maybe even light nudity, but I think most would try for maxium audience. We already got HO, showtime, and others. People aren't gonna order TNT, just because it is more like hbo, when they can just order hbo, see the same movies sooner.

However, your right about the commercials. To gain a edge, and be more appealing, channels will want to cut down on commercials. However, just as the competition is there to force less ads, its also there to keep the channel prices in cheack. I'm more worried about ESPN (who is already the most expensive.), since they have little competition. Channels like USA, tbs, spike, and FX all compete with eachother.
 
Am I missing something here? All the talk about "a la carte" seems to assume that cable companies cannot offer bundled packages. Is that true? I'd always thought the legislation would require cable companies to offer a la carte options but would not prohibit them from offering bundles.

In just about every other industry where a la carte options are offered, the providers still offer bundled services, but price them in a way that is advantageous to the consumer (as well as the provider). They also use the bundles as a successful marketing tool. I would think that if cable service providers aren't being restricted from offering packages, then they should do well.

Having said that, I'm of the opinion that Congress has no business being involved in such affairs.
 
dhett said:
Am I missing something here? All the talk about "a la carte" seems to assume that cable companies cannot offer bundled packages. Is that true? I'd always thought the legislation would require cable companies to offer a la carte options but would not prohibit them from offering bundles.

Until and unless some sort of legislation is passed, there is no way of knowing what would be allowed and what wouldn't. That said, I would be shocked if any sort of a la carte came to pass that didn't also allow bundled packages.

I also tend to think that a mandate forcing cable to offer a la carte programming is not real likely to happen. The more likely alternative would be a simple ban on programming contracts that prohibit offering channels on an a la carte basis. In my opinion, that would also be preferable to either the status quo or a full a la carte mandate.

Why so?

Because (at least for those with access to satellite or other alternative providers) it would throw the whole debate into the marketplace, where viewers would get to make the final decision. DISH has previously stated that they would be interested in offering ala carte services, but are mostly prevented from doing so by current programming contracts -- and they lack the industry clout to force a change in these contracts without a change in the regulatory environment. Were this to change, I would expect DISH to start offering a la carte programming -- and if DISH gained substantial numbers of subscribers, that would force other industry players (DirecTV, cable, FIOS, etc) to respond in kind. Alternatively, it could turn out that few viewers would be interested in a la carte and it would just fade away as another failed experiment. While I would be disappointed if that were the outcome, I would certainly respect that a la carte was given a chance and just wasn't wanted by enough viewers to succeed.

I would like to see a la carte available (and successful) for two reasons. One is that I might want to take advantage of the resulting choices. The second is that I think it would force more efficiency out of the cable programming business, and would bring to an end the crazy escalation in programming and sports rights fees (such as the $1 billion ESPN/MNF deal) that is sustained right now by virtue of the fact that those fees just get passed straight through to viewers who have no real say. Give viewers a la carte and they gain a say: if excessive rights fee payments force the cost of a particular channel through the roof, viewers can cancel that channel. And that is what we should want to see when we talk about letting the free market work.

Regarding the whole debate over the role of government in this, my personal opinion is that the role of government is to facilitate competition and maintain public interest considerations (where applicable) in the least intrusive manner possible. Addressing the issue of the programming contracts that prohibit a la carte is the means that best fits, since it would promote competition while not mandating any particular outcome.
 
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