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ME-TV ADDS SEATTLE & SAN FRANCISCO AS PRIMARY AFFILIATES

gregg75

gregg75

KVOS is actually a Bellingham station, and has a DT channel on Comcast-Seattle. It may be available on some Vancouver, BC cable systems.
 
Yes, I corrected my post the same time you posted. Thanks!
 
The only other station where Me-TV occupies the main channel is WBME-Milwaukee
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Not true. In Chicago Me TV airs on a main channel, but it's a very strong signaled low-power: WWME-LD Channel 39 (Displays as 23-1, 23-2, and 23-3, all three airing the same programming).

And, as you know also Me TV airs on a sub-channel of Weigel's full-power station: WCIU-TV Channel 27 (Displays as 26-1 thru 26-5, MeTV is on 26-3).

The low-power analog companion of WWME-LD is WWME-CA Channel 23, which is airing 'U Too' since January. Before that it was airing 'The U' (WCIU's primary channel) for the benefit of OTA viewers who had not purchased converter boxes yet. Prior to the digital transition in June 2009, WWME-CA aired 'Me TV').


So here's a summary of the Chicago stations:

Analog Channel 23 WWME-CA
'U Too'

Digital Channel 27 WCIU-TV
26-1 'The U' (in HD)
26-2 'U Too'
26-3 'Me TV'
26-4 'Me Too'
26-5 'THIS'

Digital Channel 39 WWME-LD
23-1 'Me TV'
23-2 'Me TV'
23-3 'Me TV' (all three air the same thing)

Analog Channel 48 WMEU-CA
'Me Too'

Digital Channel 32 or 46 WMEU-LD
-not on the air yet, Construction Permits exist for both 32 and 46, not sure what channel will be used eventually
 
gregg75 said:
I was just going by what they had in their news release. They had no mention of channel 39.
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Some people insist on identifying stations by their RF channel number, which may be technically correct but is used by nobody other than the FCC database and stations who's RF and PSIP channel numbers are the same. The real world uses PSIP numbers, although some TV sets (like Best Buy's Dynex brand) can tune both ways. Others will tune the ".1" channel if only the "base" channel number is entered. I own both types.

A better way to show, for example, WCIU-TV, is as Channel 26.1 (RF 27) if the physical RF channel needs to be mentioned. Really, the only reason to show the RF channel at all is in a thread that's discussing antennas or something else RF-related.

Most (read: virtually all) people will punch in 26.1 for WCIU, not 27. In fact, many people will assume 26.1 when saying "Channel 26" unless otherwise specified. The average viewer doesn't need to know or care about the RF channel number as long as he/she can get the station.
 
A better way to show, for example, WCIU-TV, is as Channel 26.1 (RF 27) if the physical RF channel needs to be mentioned.
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Both numbers are already mentioned in my previous message. I wrote it the way I did to clearly explain what the low-powers (analog and digital) and sub-channels are airing. For example, there are two Channel 23's: analog and digital (which is RF 39). Analog Channel 23 airs 'U Too', but Digital Channel 23-1, 23-2, and 23-3 all air 'Me TV'.


Also, I never use decimal points for sub-channel numbers. The reason is that I currently own a couple of different converter boxes and a digital TV, they ALL use hyphens, therefore 'The U' airs on Channel 26-1, which in my opinion is the best way. Also, a great website rabbitears.info uses hyphens for display channels.


I was just going by what they had in their news release. They had no mention of channel 39.
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For marketing purposes, Weigel Broadcasting only tells the public about WCIU-TV's subs (26-1 thru 26-5). They never mention anything about the low-powers other than the legal ID, which is sometimes incomplete and not accurate. I suspect Weigel's intention is to not confuse the viewers with all the various channels, plus WCIU-TV is the primary / strongest station. Even though WWME-LD is low-power, the signal is very good in the Chicago metro area.


http://maps.google.com/?q=http://ww...-LD&freq=0.0&contour=51&city=CHICAGO&state=IL
 
Calling KFTY a "San Francisco" station is a bit of a stretch. The station is licensed to Santa Rosa, 60 miles north of SF, deep into Sonoma County. But since Sonoma is considered one of the 9 Bay Area counties, I guess they can say they are in the SF market.

Comcast cable just recently brought KFTY into the channel line-up in San Francisco, and (I assume) the other Bay counties Comcast serves - but awareness of KFTY is still negligible. In SF, it has been assigned channel 199, which keeps it pretty anonymous. I just stumbled into it one evening about a year ago.

Maybe the Me-TV affiliation will help. Otherwise, they're just another bland independent station running the same old sitcom reruns and informercials as every other indy.
 
avtosalon said:
A better way to show, for example, WCIU-TV, is as Channel 26.1 (RF 27) if the physical RF channel needs to be mentioned.
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Both numbers are already mentioned in my previous message. I wrote it the way I did to clearly explain what the low-powers (analog and digital) and sub-channels are airing. For example, there are two Channel 23's: analog and digital (which is RF 39). Analog Channel 23 airs 'U Too', but Digital Channel 23-1, 23-2, and 23-3 all air 'Me TV'.
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Yes you did, but there are other folks who are absolutely insistent that RF channel numbers be used.

Also, I never use decimal points for sub-channel numbers. The reason is that I currently own a couple of different converter boxes and a digital TV, they ALL use hyphens, therefore 'The U' airs on Channel 26-1, which in my opinion is the best way. Also, a great website rabbitears.info uses hyphens for display channels.
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Both are correct, although most stations I've watched use the dot in their ID. Some remotes use the dot, others use the dash. It's like how some businesses (especially those who cater to the more-affluent) show their phone number as, for example, 212.555.1212 rather than (212) 555-1212. They both dial the same way, but the dots for some reason have more "snob appeal."
 
KeithE4 said:
It's like how some businesses (especially those who cater to the more-affluent) show their phone number as, for example, 212.555.1212 rather than (212) 555-1212. They both dial the same way, but the dots for some reason have more "snob appeal."
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Not to veer off topic, but I always use dashes in phone numbers ###-###-####. The parentheses around the area code is obsolete now that area codes are pretty much required when you dial a number. 10-digit dialing has been required in my area for a long time now.
 
KeithE4 said:
avtosalon said:
Also, I never use decimal points for sub-channel numbers. The reason is that I currently own a couple of different converter boxes and a digital TV, they ALL use hyphens, therefore 'The U' airs on Channel 26-1, which in my opinion is the best way. Also, a great website rabbitears.info uses hyphens for display channels.
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Both are correct, although most stations I've watched use the dot in their ID. Some remotes use the dot, others use the dash. It's like how some businesses (especially those who cater to the more-affluent) show their phone number as, for example, 212.555.1212 rather than (212) 555-1212. They both dial the same way, but the dots for some reason have more "snob appeal."
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They called it the "Dot 2" network, not the "Dash 2" network. ;D
 
ansky212 said:
Not to veer off topic, but I always use dashes in phone numbers ###-###-####. The parentheses around the area code is obsolete now that area codes are pretty much required when you dial a number. 10-digit dialing has been required in my area for a long time now.
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In your area, not universally. That was a choice NYNEX/Verizon made. Qwest doesn't require 10-digit dialing, even when multiple area codes make up the local dialing area, as long as they are geographic codes. I'm not sure how Qwest handles overlay codes - anyone from Denver care to enlighten us?
 
dhett said:
ansky212 said:
Not to veer off topic, but I always use dashes in phone numbers ###-###-####. The parentheses around the area code is obsolete now that area codes are pretty much required when you dial a number. 10-digit dialing has been required in my area for a long time now.
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In your area, not universally. That was a choice NYNEX/Verizon made. Qwest doesn't require 10-digit dialing, even when multiple area codes make up the local dialing area, as long as they are geographic codes. I'm not sure how Qwest handles overlay codes - anyone from Denver care to enlighten us?
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I think that it goes beyond which legacy phone company was involved. It also depends on the state and the area of the state. For example, Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont were in the NYNEX/Verizon region (now they have the poorly named FairPoint) and you still dial in-state phone numbers with 7 digits. Even from a cell phone!

Another example, AT&T is the descendant of "Baby Bell" Ameritech (itself the descendant of several single-state companies such as Illinois Bell) which serves 5 midwestern states along with the rest of the former SBC region. Those states include IL and WI. Where I live in NE IL, we have multiple area codes in the region and each has an overlay. My area code happens to be different than that of my neighbors because I was stuck with a new number. We all have to dial 10 numbers. Go 10 minutes north, across the Wisconsin border, and they only need to dial 7 numbers. Go far enough south or west in IL and you only need to dial 7 numbers.

So, it depends.
 
A lot of the required 10 digit dialing comes from a ruling that all phone companies must be treated equal. For instance, in Chicago they now have an overlay area code of 872.

Suppose I start a new phone company. Most of the phone numbers in the 773 (or 312) area codes will already be taken by the old phone companies.

This would mean my new phone company would get mostly 872 numbers. If 10 digit dialing wasn't required then my phone company would be at a disadvantage. So by requiring that everyone dial 10 digits (11 with the "1" prefix) it equalizes everyone.
 
You're correct when dealing with overlay codes, and I believe it's true with Qwest as well. Denver, Salt Lake City and the entire state of Oregon are the only parts of Qwest's territory that have overlay codes.

Also, dialing the "1" also varies from local provider to local provider. In the Qwest world, "1" is only required for a long-distance call. Local calls are 7-digits for same geographic area code, 10-digits to overlay area codes, and 10-digits to other geographic area codes. All long-distance calling is 11-digits - you dial "1+area code" even if the number dialed is in the same area code.
 
avtosalon said:
The only other station where Me-TV occupies the main channel is WBME-Milwaukee
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Not true. In Chicago Me TV airs on a main channel, but it's a very strong signaled low-power: WWME-LD Channel 39 (Displays as 23-1, 23-2, and 23-3, all three airing the same programming).

And, as you know also Me TV airs on a sub-channel of Weigel's full-power station: WCIU-TV Channel 27 (Displays as 26-1 thru 26-5, MeTV is on 26-3).

The low-power analog companion of WWME-LD is WWME-CA Channel 23, which is airing 'U Too' since January. Before that it was airing 'The U' (WCIU's primary channel) for the benefit of OTA viewers who had not purchased converter boxes yet. Prior to the digital transition in June 2009, WWME-CA aired 'Me TV').


So here's a summary of the Chicago stations:

Analog Channel 23 WWME-CA
'U Too'

Digital Channel 27 WCIU-TV
26-1 'The U' (in HD)
26-2 'U Too'
26-3 'Me TV'
26-4 'Me Too'
26-5 'THIS'

Digital Channel 39 WWME-LD
23-1 'Me TV'
23-2 'Me TV'
23-3 'Me TV' (all three air the same thing)

Analog Channel 48 WMEU-CA
'Me Too'

Digital Channel 32 or 46 WMEU-LD
-not on the air yet, Construction Permits exist for both 32 and 46, not sure what channel will be used eventually
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The companion channel for WMEU-CA was RF 46 for analog RF 48, but because WHME-TV South Bend has a CP to go back to 46 (their former analog channel), Weigel Broadcasting filed a displacement & took RF 32 instead. Since WLS-TV decided to go back to the UHF full time (once they get their new antenna & transmitter going on the Sears Tower, as I still call it), they no longer needed the translator for RF 32 (which would have mapped to 7.1 - 7.3 as well) as they're on RF 44, & using RF 7 (both map to 7.1 - 7.3). So once Weigel Broadcasting can come up with the money to get WMEU-LD on the air, WMEU-LD will carry the local MeTV, which is MeToo. It'll broadcast on RF 32, but the PSIP will be 48.1.
 
searadiofreak said:
KVOS is actually a Bellingham station, and it may be available on some Vancouver, BC cable systems.
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It is and has been since 1953 or earlier. The best thing so far on ME-TV (KVOS) are the ads for the boner pumps. They are covered by Medicare and most insurance companies, don't
ya know!
 
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