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Me(TV Music) & TJ Arrive In Phoenix

JeffGAz said:
Me TV Radio = No Mas. Tuned into 1280 and was greeted with Spanish Music. https://metv.fm/kxeg leads to: Oops!
We're sorry, but the page you requested doesn't exist. Try visiting our homepage. The Stream is still active. https://streaming.proradiosolutions.com:8022/kxeg I've been listening. Call Letters from all stations were played at the top of the hour, on the Stream. (KXEG, K241CS & KRPH).
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What a complete disaster this turned out to be! If MeTVmusic isn't coming back, this might qualify as the shortest length of time for a radio format in the Valley.
 
KilowattKat said:
What a complete disaster this turned out to be! If MeTVmusic isn't coming back, this might qualify as the shortest length of time for a radio format in the Valley.
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And I remember the one month of "97.5 Latino Mix" back in 2005.

Sad thing is Don Brown could have found a niche with the format. Now he's just simulcasting his out-of-state station no one will listen to because there are stations with the same exact format on the FM, with a better signal.
 
EricStein said:
And I remember the one month of "97.5 Latino Mix" back in 2005.

Sad thing is Don Brown could have found a niche with the format. Now he's just simulcasting his out-of-state station no one will listen to because there are stations with the same exact format on the FM, with a better signal.
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I just remembered another short one, when KIDR 740 was 'Gospel 740', it was an LMA that lasted only one month, 20 years ago.

I wonder what exactly were the technical issues that couldn't be resolved?
 
KilowattKat said:
I just remembered another short one, when KIDR 740 was 'Gospel 740', it was an LMA that lasted only one month, 20 years ago.

I wonder what exactly were the technical issues that couldn't be resolved?
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Without getting into details, the KXEG/96.1/99.5 problem with them running spanish now and not MeTV has to do with a technical issue on the side of MeTV that theyve been unable to resolve. Tom is a smart guy and if it was on their end, he wouldve had it nipped in the bud.
 
Sidebar of the web site lists current plays incl. Glenn Campbell, Ricky Nelson, some I genuinely have no clue - Orleans? Buckinghams? - but this could have stolen listeners from 92.7. I certainly would have loved to hear more. We need a station like that here, especially for a market this size.
 
indieradioguy said:
Sidebar of the web site lists current plays incl. Glenn Campbell, Ricky Nelson, some I genuinely have no clue - Orleans? Buckinghams? - but this could have stolen listeners from 92.7. I certainly would have loved to hear more. We need a station like that here, especially for a market this size.
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They could have taken away listeners from 95.1, especially on the northwest side. I think that's what their goal was. I don't know if the technical issues Paul mentioned above nullified KXEG's contract with MeTV Music, but if so, it's something for someone like Ken Brentlinger to think about putting on 99.3 if he wants to take back operational control of that translator (he's probably satisfied with the payments KQFN is making at this time, but that station is apparently up on the selling block).
 
EricStein said:
They could have taken away listeners from 95.1, especially on the northwest side. I think that's what their goal was. I don't know if the technical issues Paul mentioned above nullified KXEG's contract with MeTV Music, but if so, it's something for someone like Ken Brentlinger to think about putting on 99.3 if he wants to take back operational control of that translator (he's probably satisfied with the payments KQFN is making at this time, but that station is apparently up on the selling block).
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The goal was to modulate the finals and keep the licenses alive.
 
SomeRadioGuy said:
The goal was to modulate the finals and keep the licenses alive.
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If you're right, what a wasteful way to reach that goal. They could have just kept the Reno simulcast going or run a loop with station ID for a month. Don't tease the listening audience with a new format only to take it away after four weeks.
 
SomeRadioGuy said:
Without getting into details, the KXEG/96.1/99.5 problem with them running spanish now and not MeTV has to do with a technical issue on the side of MeTV that theyve been unable to resolve. Tom is a smart guy and if it was on their end, he wouldve had it nipped in the bud.
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96.1 in metro Phoenix is something that shouldn't have been allowed to happen. K241CS, KXEG's translator on Shaw Butte is highly directional away from the East Valley, while KZON's K241BQ on South Mountain (although licensed to Ft. McDowell) fills in SW Phoenix, Tempe, and Mesa. The two translators are far too close together, IMHO, even though they attempt to not interfere with each other.

And what's with the 1280 signal? Are they only running about 50 watts instead of their usual 2500, maybe enough to put a signal into their translator? It's weak to inaudible where I live in NE Mesa, even though 1000 watt KOY on 1230 is strong.
 
KXEG is still 50 watts from a 65 ft long wire antenna. They were just granted an STA extension for that on 9/25. I wonder if Don Brown purchased a real 'lemon' of a radio station?
 
KilowattKat said:
KXEG is still 50 watts from a 65 ft long wire antenna. They were just granted an STA extension for that on 9/25. I wonder if Don Brown purchased a real 'lemon' of a radio station?
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65 feet is 1/4 wavelength at 3.6 MHz, not 1.28 MHz. That is one very inefficient antenna even with a good ground. 😱
 
KeithE4 said:
96.1 in metro Phoenix is something that shouldn't have been allowed to happen. K241CS, KXEG's translator on Shaw Butte is highly directional away from the East Valley, while KZON's K241BQ on South Mountain (although licensed to Ft. McDowell) fills in SW Phoenix, Tempe, and Mesa. The two translators are far too close together, IMHO, even though they attempt to not interfere with each other.

And what's with the 1280 signal? Are they only running about 50 watts instead of their usual 2500, maybe enough to put a signal into their translator? It's weak to inaudible where I live in NE Mesa, even though 1000 watt KOY on 1230 is strong.
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put a signal into the translator? The translator isnt fed with the AM signal....... literally. And the rules state that a translator has to be within a certain distance of the LICENSED contour, it doesnt take into account STA's
 
EricStein said:
If you're right, what a wasteful way to reach that goal. They could have just kept the Reno simulcast going or run a loop with station ID for a month. Don't tease the listening audience with a new format only to take it away after four weeks.
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They took it away because of technical problems out of their control, as ive stated before. if you wanna know more than ive shared, you can talk to tom... hed probably tell you if you ask. Hes told me, because.. shocker.. I asked... and i just dont know what im allowed to share of what hes told me
 
According to a recent story at

www.radioworld.com

Radio Hogar Receives Chance to Revive FM Translator in Phoenix - Radio World

An embattled FM translator in Phoenix, Ariz., may be getting a new lease on life.
www.radioworld.com www.radioworld.com

the FCC did give Radio Hogar, the former owners of KASA, a chance to rebroadcast the spanish programming on KXEG on the translator at 106.7. I wonder, given the return of spanish programming to KXEG, if we are going to see a legal showdown over this.
 
SomeRadioGuy said:
Without getting into details, the KXEG/96.1/99.5 problem with them running spanish now and not MeTV has to do with a technical issue on the side of MeTV that theyve been unable to resolve. Tom is a smart guy and if it was on their end, he wouldve had it nipped in the bud.
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Do you know if KXEG was sold back to Media Services Group (the previous owner according to Wikipedia)? I figure I might as well remove 1280 from my presets.
 
ted chittenden said:
fAccording to a recent story at

www.radioworld.com

Radio Hogar Receives Chance to Revive FM Translator in Phoenix - Radio World

An embattled FM translator in Phoenix, Ariz., may be getting a new lease on life.
www.radioworld.com www.radioworld.com

the FCC did give Radio Hogar, the former owners of KASA, a chance to rebroadcast the spanish programming on KXEG on the translator at 106.7. I wonder, given the return of spanish programming to KXEG, if we are going to see a legal showdown over this.
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Just a heads up. I wrote the above three days ago but my account was approved only just today. In the meantime, I have been following this thread, and, unless something else comes up, I am inclined to agree with 'Some Radio Guy's' synopsis of the situation.
 
EricStein said:
And I remember the one month of "97.5 Latino Mix" back in 2005.

Sad thing is Don Brown could have found a niche with the format. Now he's just simulcasting his out-of-state station no one will listen to because there are stations with the same exact format on the FM, with a better signal.
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Actually, Phoenix is a very lucky market when it comes to oldies outlets. Basically, there are three of them with two of those (KOAI and KIKO-FM) being rim shotters. Los Angeles, San Diego, San Francisco, Sacramento, and Bakersfield, California, do not have over-the-air stations playing this music; neither do Chicago, Illinois, or Madison, Wisconsin. Basically, the major advertising agencies, probably with reason, do not believe that the ever-shrinking boomer population is worth supporting.
 
ted chittenden said:
Actually, Phoenix is a very lucky market when it comes to oldies outlets. Basically, there are three of them with two of those (KOAI and KIKO-FM) being rim shotters. Los Angeles, San Diego, San Francisco, Sacramento, and Bakersfield, California, do not have over-the-air stations playing this music; neither do Chicago, Illinois, or Madison, Wisconsin. Basically, the major advertising agencies, probably with reason, do not believe that the ever-shrinking boomer population is worth supporting.
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I still stand by my statement that KIKO-FM will be pulling its oldies format once the pending sale has been completed. The way the station is currently programmed is financially unviable.
 


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