No, but at least two rock stations (Chicago and New York) that have flipped to K-Love in the last five years made sure their last song played was "Highway to Hell".
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Media Companies Are Ready to Sell. Does Anyone Want to Buy?
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Four months ago, part of this conversation was about why Netflix was pulling titles from its library.
Now, we have data:
www.hollywoodreporter.com
Now, we have data:
Inside the Netflix Data Trove: ‘Wednesday,’ ‘Suits’ and 10,000 Titles (Almost) No One Watched
Inside the Netflix Data Trove: ‘Wednesday,’ ‘Suits’ and 10,000 Titles (Almost) No One Watched
The streamer's massive list of viewing time stats reveals a very diverse top of the chart and shows that users outside the U.S. still love 'The Office.'
www.hollywoodreporter.com
That may be long term. But for now, they need major market clears to satisfy advertisers.
At some point, you have to pay it back. That's the situation in radio right now.
And realistically, how many major market affiliates pre-empt network programming how often and for what?
Yeah. I know. But WBD is looking at CBS right now, so they’re either geniuses, idiots or something in between.
I gave you the CW example. Any company that starts off with stations in Top 10 markets has the basis for starting its own network.
Well, okay. Let's save people the scroll back:
CBS is carried on 243 television stations in the U.S. Fifteen of them are O&Os. So there are 228 television stations owned by other companies that are CBS affiliates.
Eight of those affiliates owned by other companies are in the top 20 markets. That's 40 percent of CBS carriage in the top 20. Again, how common is pre-emption of network programming, and for what?
Sure, but the CW, MyNetwork, and really anything after FOX's launch 37 years ago has been more of a cautionary tale than an inspiration.
And if the owned stations group gets spun off to investment folks who are there to bleed what's left of the OTA broadcast model dry, starting a new broadcast network is probably not on their radar. Keep the affiliations, slash costs wherever possible and recycle as much local news produced by a progressively smaller newsroom into as many hours of the day as you can is much more likely to be their strategy.
Usually local or national breaking news or severe weather. That's assuming they're staffed at an hour when the breaking-whatever occurs.
And if it's national, they're rarely pre-empting the network, but rather going wall-to-wall with the network.
And O&Os do exactly the same thing. They're not staying with a rerun of NCIS if a plane crashes into City Hall.
Sure. They've hubbed everything else (graphics, master control). I was in a meeting in the past few years where the VP of News for corporate for a radio chain suggested one newsroom could cover all of California simply by only doing the stories that affect all Californians.
I disagree with the concept, but, given the mandate to manage the decline, I won't at all be surprised if a tv group tries it.
You're talking about pre-emption. I'm talking about canceling the affiliation completely. That's what Audacy did with some CBS News affiliates once the contract ran out. There's a thread in the NY board about Scott Shannon's syndicated show being canceled because the Audacy stations dropped it. That can happen in TV too.
We'll see. Once CBS sells a station, and the contract runs out, that station is free to affiliate with anyone, or simply go indie. Just like in radio. If a former CBS station thinks it can make more money on it's own, then that's what it does.
Yeah, I don't find the concept palatable either, but it may be all that groups would be able to afford without killing local news entirely. In theory it would help bolster the potential for national ad dollars because the demo/pop count reach would be multiplied by the number of markets. Essentially it would look similar to what you and BigA were discussing; a consolidated regional news network(s).
However, if the sale contract specifies continued affiliation, then that is actually a possibility.
Sorry. This confused me:
Yeah. That CAN happen. It's vanishingly rare among major (ABC, CBS, NBC) network affiliates. In fact I'm straining to think of a single example that wasn't actually triggered by something else.
KTVK in Phoenix went indie from ABC after it lost the game of musical chairs when Fox bought New World. KRON in San Francisco lost NBC when it priced itself out of a deal that would have made it an O&O. That was miscalculation, not strategy, and they paid dearly for it. WHDH in Boston did the same with NBC and sued unsuccessfully to try to keep its affiliation after NBC bought a weaker signal and made it an O&O.
Sure. And that depends on how a spinoff were to go.
Let's say Paramount has a buyer for the network and other buyers for the O&Os. It protects the value of the network to the new buyer, and thus the sale price, by specifying continued affiliation and selling the O&Os first.
Likewise, if CBS, including stations, goes to a buyer who then takes it upon themself to do the spinoff, that could also be a condition of the sale.
And in full disclosure, the NPR station I work for right now runs a regional network---CPRN, Capital Public Radio Network. There are no live newscasts, but we provide stories of statewide interest for network member stations all over California.
The difference is that most of those stations have their own newsrooms, and they and we cover stories that are of interest to our local audiences as well as stories that have statewide interest.
It can but there's always a term to it. I'm not aware that any company forced an affiliation in perpetuity.
The concept of a "network" has really changed since the internet is the ultimate network that anyone can access.
Right. Network affiliation deals are typically three years or five. There are exceptions, with some as short as a single year (usually if the relationship is going to hell) and some as long as ten.
By the time a deal for the CBS O&Os went through and the new guys have the keys, it's probably 2025. A five-year deal gets you to 2030 and I'm thinking it's going to be very much a streaming world at that point.
Sure, they do that here for Maryland and Virginia NPR affiliates. VPM (Virginia Public Media) out of Richmond used to have a pretty large newsroom which over the past year shrank about 60%, yet still contributes stories to WAMU in DC while doing 'local-ish' newscasts for Roanoke, VA Beach, and other smaller public stations. I believe MPT used to have a much larger news footprint than it does now.
We'll see. A lot of things can happen between now and then. I'm about to try the cord cutter thing myself, and will get back to you.
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