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Media Layoffs - Six years of job cutback reports

Cal Stymes said:
IBOCRocks declared:

*ALL receivers now in existence will be obsolete if analog radio is shut off as they eventually plan on doing.
Lie. There are no plans, period.

YES THERE ARE! They just aren't public.

All is NOT as it seems.

*Ibiquity says we have no right to listen to stations outside of our own market
Lie. Please present quote and source.

This is true by default. Since you CAN'T listen to stations outside of your own market due to the high frequency noise presented by AM IBOC then Ubiquitous doesn't think you SHOULD be able to listen to them.

It's a no brainer.

If it's not public, how do you know. Again, provide proof! It's easy enough for you to come by and make accusations, but it's entirely another thing to be able to back it up.

If you're going to make those claims, at least provide some way to verify them.
 
analogAMforever said:
IBOCRocks: "If it's not public, how do you know. Again, provide proof! It's easy enough for you to come by and make accusations, but it's entirely another thing to be able to back it up.If you're going to make those claims, at least provide some way to verify them."

Prove these allegations ! :D Oh, IBOCRocks is in another meltdown again ! :D

Right. This is where you start posting random blogs, repeating the some line over and over, and post Amazon rankings.

Man up, Nancy, and admit that you messed up.

Oh oh! Now you're going to get all worked up and start spamming us again!
 
And as you have always said, "oh, it is just a blog" - at least when I quote an atricle, I post its link, like you are supposed to.
 
IBOCRocks proclaimed:

If it's not public, how do you know.

I can't tell you.

Again, provide proof!

I won't. I want to keep working. No I won't tell you where I work.

It's easy enough for you to come by and make accusations, but it's entirely another thing to be able to back it up.

Indeed you are correct! I can back it up. I just won't. And pointers to public opinion pieces and blogs just don't cut it. They are a waste of bandwidth and everyone's time here. As are off-topic one line personal arguments back and forth between individuals. No, I'm not whining. No, I'm not complaining. I am making an observation and expressing an opinon which many of us share here.

If you're going to make those claims, at least provide some way to verify them.

I don't have to. It is not important to me whether or not you believe me. I am simply trying to educate you. It will all come out "in the wash". It may not be today or tomorrow, but eventually it will. Hopefully, the dissatisfaction with the technology by the public and individual radio stations alike will help the truth become public.

Oh and if you are wondering how I can make the claim that individual radio stations are dissatisfied with the technology, then name one poster on this message board who works for a radio station, any radio station, anywhere, in any capacity (engineering or otherwise) that has indicated he or she is happy with it. Yes, actually there were some posters on this message board in the beginning who worked for some radio stations and expressed some degree of satisfaction with IBOC technology. They were actually very coherent individuals but I haven't seen them post in ages. Where are they? You don't think they may have been chased away, do you?

Where are the others? Since IBOC keeps getting turned on at more and more radio stations I'd expect to see them in here commenting about how much they like it. With the exception of the Univision fellow (who I don't believe is an engineering type), I don't see them.

Disclaimer: The questions above are rhetorical... you need not answer them. :)
 
Most broadcast professionals take one look at this board and turn the other way. Even though I enjoy debating I realize it's a waste of time because no matter what facts you have there are many (or just one) who aren't interested in debating facts. After they get through with I-Buzz and other juvenile arguments, there is no substance to their arguments and others in the anti IBOC group post alegations but won't back up their arguments for an assortment of reasons. I'll end by saying that WCBS just turned on their AM IBOC exciter today and they sound fantastic. I have to find out what they've done, because they have digital audio which is everything IBOC promised to be at the start. No artifacts and amazing highs with a silent noise floor.
 
autopaint-1 expounded:

Most broadcast professionals take one look at this board and turn the other way.

True! And we know who is to blame for that.

There actually were some coherent opinions written early on here by some broadcast professionals who were working with HD/IBOC. But they vanished when the emotional level became high and the postings here became more of a list of useless links to blogs and articles and a personal tennis match between a few individuals that has nothing whatsoever to do with HD/IBOC.

But where ARE these broadcast engineers? If this technology really is the largest advancement in radio since FM stereo was introduced then surely they are posting somewhere about how good it is. I have looked and I can not find them. :-\
 
They are around. WCBS AM recently put their IBOC exciter back on the air, after making a few changes and it sound fantastic. It truly sounds like FM quality audio on the AM BCB. IBOC (whatever system) presents new obsticles which need to be delt with. As processing improves and problems in the audio chain which were masked when in analogue are corrected. The promises of clean digital audio are becoming a reality.
 
What does this topic have to do with HD and other digital system?
 
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