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"Meet your newest competitor"

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700WLW

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"Meet your newest competitor"

"One day, not long from now, devices like this rival satellite radio and, of course, will impact both conventional radio and HD radio. In fact, based on the current programming scheme for HD, this radio is far superior in terms of "variety" - right out of the box."

http://www.hear2.com/2007/01/meet_your_newes.html#comments

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700WLW said:
"Meet your newest competitor"

"One day, not long from now, devices like this rival satellite radio and, of course, will impact both conventional radio and HD radio. In fact, based on the current programming scheme for HD, this radio is far superior in terms of "variety" - right out of the box."

http://www.hear2.com/2007/01/meet_your_newes.html#comments

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Yeah, probably. The guy is a fraud and farce and I called him on that.

As usual, this post has nothing to do with HD Radio and probably belongs on the Webcasting/Streaming board.
 
ElCheapo said:
700WLW said:
"Meet your newest competitor"

"One day, not long from now, devices like this rival satellite radio and, of course, will impact both conventional radio and HD radio. In fact, based on the current programming scheme for HD, this radio is far superior in terms of "variety" - right out of the box."

http://www.hear2.com/2007/01/meet_your_newes.html#comments

[EDIT-inflammatory]

Yeah, probably. The guy is a fraud and farce and I called him on that.

As usual, this post has nothing to do with HD Radio and probably belongs on the Webcasting/Streaming board.

The quote is about HD Radio. You just don't like it and want it banished.
 
SUPERCASTER said:
The quote is about HD Radio. You just don't like it and want it banished.

The entire blog entry is about a streaming audio device - as are 95% of Ramsey's posts about HD Radio.

That's his schtick - trying to convince broadcasters that webcasters are going to kill their business unless they hire him and he sells them some magic beans.

The thing is Mark Ramsey isn't anti-HD like you guys like to think. He's anti-HD by people who aren't paying him consulting fees. Because God knows, we aren't smart enough to do it without him.

The guy is a radio consultant. His primary business is running a research company for radio.

What he's getting here is a lot of free advertising - viral marketing - for his consulting services. He should be paying Radio-Info for the exposure!
 
700WLW said:
"Meet your newest competitor"

"One day, not long from now, devices like this rival satellite radio and, of course, will impact both conventional radio and HD radio. In fact, based on the current programming scheme for HD, this radio is far superior in terms of "variety" - right out of the box."

http://www.hear2.com/2007/01/meet_your_newes.html#comments

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[EDIT-inflammatory]


I think we all know what the real competitor for HD, and for that matter satellite, radio will be and it's moving up from behind at a tremendous pace.

Frontier Silicon sees move to Internet radio

"At CES in Las Vegas, Frontier Silicon has launched its Chorus 2i baseband receiver system-on-chip device which it claimed will support the development of sub-$99 WiFi Internet radios.

The company is responding to what it sees as a change in the radio market which is set to become dominated by Internet access. "With audio content increasingly becoming available on-line, audio receivers must embrace WiFi connectivity to avoid obsolescence within a few years," said Steve Evans, Frontier Silicon's v-p for digital audio.
...

"While the majority of audio products today rely on broadcast technology, we are now in the transition decade where consumers will increasingly demand access to digital content from the Internet,” said Evans."

Here's the entire article:

http://www.electronicsweekly.com/Ar...ntier+Silicon+sees+move+to+Internet+radio.htm

And the incredible thing about this product is that they hope to put it in portable radios and boom boxes; battery-powered devices we know HD radio will not be making an appearance in.

db
 
dbdigital,

Thank you! Your last two posts here are sign-posts to the future of "radio". This makes it plain that HD radio is equivalent to digital carts or digital cassettes.
 
HD radio = Digital Buggy Whip

I want my radio left alone. AM at least, but I'll trade ya the FM for hybrid.

I already get to stream Cingular Wireless internet of Radio Dismuke on my laptop to a line-in for my car radio, which works
perfectly for my 1 hour commute. All above for free. (And this message)( deeep bow to Japan) Thank you, Mr Komori.

I still prefer the radio, thank you.

Why would I need to change any radio I own for content?
Living in Chicago, my choices are diverse, with universities running great FMs, though most commercial musics are "playlist-strangled".
You can tune around, and already know what to expect before you hear the stn. And you're never disappointed or surprised.

Let's especially consider the car environment, as that's still a huge market....
If I really want to stream Radio Dismuke, I am consciously shutting off "real radio" with wx, news, traffic, laughs, social traffic.
If it weren't for radio, I'd never have known the Britney Spears did not wear panties, for instance.
Now, I like the IDEA much better than the actual pictures. THAT is at the heart of what radio is.
An idea, instantaneous, which is better than silly pictures or data.

With unlimited access to me for free, I choose NOT to use internet streaming in the car because it's NOT R A D I O.

Now play me some Cab Calloway with a hot cut to the Cramps. Radio needs to get hip again, not suck up to computer technology.
 
vsa said:
dbdigital,

Thank you! Your last two posts here are sign-posts to the future of "radio". This makes it plain that HD radio is equivalent to digital carts or digital cassettes.

Technologically yes, this is the future of radio. But unless something is done to bring these additional fees and reporting procedures from SoundExchange down to a more managable level (or eliminated altogether, which is unlikely) internet radio will have a much harder time growing to its full potential.

On the bright side, any radio station broadcasting in HD will be subject to the same fees. So perhaps these media conglomerates along with the NAB can use some of their lobbying muscle to regulate the madness that CARP and the RIAA have been responsible for.

Or if nothing else, being subject to these fees along with any additional fees from iBiquity could make broadcasting in HD less desirable to them.

One can only hope.

db
 
Ray22 said:
another competitor for in-car radio/device use....more Internet streaming in car. Basically a Verizon (by coverage map) LAN card with wireless router running on 12volts. Interesting....

http://www.goautonet.com/wp/

Sure - and all you have to do to use it to stream internet in your car is plug your laptop into your cigarette lighter via an inverter, set it on your passenger seat, connect its headphone jack to the aux input of your stereo, boot the computer, surf to the streaming audio site, find the stream you want to listen to, select it then sit back, relax and enjoy! Oh - I left one thing out... Pray nobody cuts you off in traffic causing you to slam on the brakes and throw your laptop in the floor or engineer some solution to keep your laptop from flying.

When you park for 5 minutes to run in and get some milk, shut the computer down, unplug everything, bag it up and hide it in the trunk.

When you come back out, repeat process.

On the other hand, with HD Radio - you get into your car and turn the radio on.
 
Or simply use your new iPhone or other Wi-Fi enabled device. Wi-Fi audio streaming device prices will be as low as $50 by Christmas.

Oh, and you'll be able to hear that favorite online station stream wherever you go - in the world.
 
ElCheapo said:
Ray22 said:
another competitor for in-car radio/device use....more Internet streaming in car. Basically a Verizon (by coverage map) LAN card with wireless router running on 12volts. Interesting....

http://www.goautonet.com/wp/

Sure - and all you have to do to use it to stream internet in your car is plug your laptop into your cigarette lighter via an inverter, set it on your passenger seat, connect its headphone jack to the aux input of your stereo, boot the computer, surf to the streaming audio site, find the stream you want to listen to, select it then sit back, relax and enjoy! Oh - I left one thing out... Pray nobody cuts you off in traffic causing you to slam on the brakes and throw your laptop in the floor or engineer some solution to keep your laptop from flying.

When you park for 5 minutes to run in and get some milk, shut the computer down, unplug everything, bag it up and hide it in the trunk.

When you come back out, repeat process.

On the other hand, with HD Radio - you get into your car and turn the radio on.

So let's see, if I want HD radio in my car I buy an HD Dice, a box that must be mounted somewhere behind the dash (if there's room), a wire comes out of it which I plug into my radio's Sat/CD connection port (provided my radio has one), another wire, the HD antenna, is then attached to the windshield (now that's a great idea, just gotta make sure the antenna wire is fed in such a way that neither myself nor a passenger gets tangled up in it).

If I want to use my iPod, HD Dice has yet another wire that emanates from it attached to a cradle to which I mount my iPod and lay it on the passenger seat (as suggested by the distributor) or maybe my passenger can just hold my iPod during the entire trip.

Sounds like a lot of trouble and "spagetti" just to get a few "stations between the stations" in my car (stations that will quickly disappear as I travel further away from the transmitter).

db
 
vsa said:
Or simply use your new iPhone or other Wi-Fi enabled device. Wi-Fi audio streaming device prices will be as low as $50 by Christmas.

Oh, and you'll be able to hear that favorite online station stream wherever you go - in the world.

Yeah, from the same people who provide me with wonderful dropped calls and wireless dropouts all the time.

Like I've said before - I'll believe it when I hear it.
 
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