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menotti1
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very nice.Sure makes that V6 sound good.Makes a $ 299.00 mic sound pretty darn nice.
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Mic/Preamp Combos
- Thread starter SkinnyJohnny
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Welcome to our little community, Rick! VODood nailed it: your chain absolutely rocks! Not to mention, you really do have a great voice.
Have you tried just using the 6176 alone with the built-in tube pre and shelving EQ, along with the 1176 side? The reviews say the 610 preamp is like buttah (of course!), but real users on other boards have complained that the tube pre in the 6176 is murky and easily distorts. I'd prefer a clean sound with it if that's possible. What's your experience with it?
Thanks,
JJ
Have you tried just using the 6176 alone with the built-in tube pre and shelving EQ, along with the 1176 side? The reviews say the 610 preamp is like buttah (of course!), but real users on other boards have complained that the tube pre in the 6176 is murky and easily distorts. I'd prefer a clean sound with it if that's possible. What's your experience with it?
Thanks,
JJ
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Rick Hunter
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Jeff,
I have found the 6176 to be one of the cleanest pre-amps I have ever used. And yes I do use both sides, they work great. The only reason I have the Aircorp in the chain is for the gate. The 1176 does not have one. About a month ago the main studio mic in my studio was a "Blue" Telefunken U47, but it was a little "thick" for my taste. So now it is used as a secondary guest mic.
I have found the 6176 to be one of the cleanest pre-amps I have ever used. And yes I do use both sides, they work great. The only reason I have the Aircorp in the chain is for the gate. The 1176 does not have one. About a month ago the main studio mic in my studio was a "Blue" Telefunken U47, but it was a little "thick" for my taste. So now it is used as a secondary guest mic.
Thanks for the word on the 6176, Rick. The MXL V6 sounds great -- nice and open, with big clear mids. It fits your voice perfectly. And I really like the clean-yet-big compression you're getting, and look Ma, no artifacts!
I'm window shopping for at least a new pre, and I'm thinking that patching the expander section of my spare 528E or a 628 between that 610 pre and the 1176 section might be just the ticket. I'm using a Symetrix 628 Digital right now, but we have a very much a love/hate relationship.
Thanks!
JJ
I'm window shopping for at least a new pre, and I'm thinking that patching the expander section of my spare 528E or a 628 between that 610 pre and the 1176 section might be just the ticket. I'm using a Symetrix 628 Digital right now, but we have a very much a love/hate relationship.
Thanks!
JJ
That's right..the 6176 does have that ability to insert something between the two portions..You could DO that..put the expander/gate between the preamp and the compressor (the way it is SUPPOSED TO BE DONE) and you have it made.
Never understood why so many processing boxes had the expander/gate designed after the compressor..Seems as though the compressor would bring up the room noise before the expander gets a chance to clamp down on it..weird.
Rick the mic chain sound pefect as it site..don't adjust..or if you do mess with it..snap a pic of the settings before you do..sounds GREAT!
Never understood why so many processing boxes had the expander/gate designed after the compressor..Seems as though the compressor would bring up the room noise before the expander gets a chance to clamp down on it..weird.
Rick the mic chain sound pefect as it site..don't adjust..or if you do mess with it..snap a pic of the settings before you do..sounds GREAT!
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Rick Hunter
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Thanks Jeff. Your years of experience and friendly advise over the years on audio advice have been invaluable.
Jeff Laurence said:That's right..the 6176 does have that ability to insert something between the two portions..You could DO that..put the expander/gate between the preamp and the compressor (the way it is SUPPOSED TO BE DONE) and you have it made.
Never understood why so many processing boxes had the expander/gate designed after the compressor..Seems as though the compressor would bring up the room noise before the expander gets a chance to clamp down on it..weird.
Rick the mic chain sound pefect as it site..don't adjust..or if you do mess with it..snap a pic of the settings before you do..sounds GREAT!
I understand why it's done that way...When micing an instrument (say, a snare drum), you would want the gate last. For VO, the ideal situation is to have one right after the pre and one at the end of ther chain to clean up circuit noise. I do this with a Voicemaster Pro (which has the gate after the preamp) and follow it with a DBX 266XL that's used exclusively for very gentle expansion.
Emmett
When we had the music recording studio back in the day..The very same one that did the obnoxious "Snoopy and the Red Baron" novelty records and several other hits for the Bellamy Brothers, and Jim Stafford..we had just that situation Emmett.
We had VALLEY KEPEX gates on the snare and the kick Kick assigned to it's own track....mixed the snare, L-toms R-toms into two sub-channels then into two LA2's..THEN thru two additional Quad Eight noise gates..and overheads into two Spectra Sonics limiters..ran 5 tracks of drums into a 2 inch 16 track machine, (one of the first made with a 16 track headstack) It sounded way ahead of it's time. We were also one of the first studios to loop a kick drum. One measure of kick..looped on a 1/4 inch machine..so it stayed EXACTLY the same tempo wise..we also learned how to pre-delay vocal signal going into the reverb chamber (we had a great EMT plate reverb that looked as big as a mattress leaning against the wall)..Now all of that and so much more can be done with an effects box or even a little mini-console with effects for under 299.00! Jeeesh!
But the ideal box would have in this order a TUBE preamp..into a downward expander..into an adjustable compressor..then into a four band parametric (that can be assigned to either work pre or post expander and compressor) then a separate and QUICK gate..that could be switched out of the path. I wish Jim Loupas would design and build that..it would be the ultimate preamp/processing box for voiceover. Slap Cip's or LaFontaine's name on it and watch it sell! Holy Cow!
We had VALLEY KEPEX gates on the snare and the kick Kick assigned to it's own track....mixed the snare, L-toms R-toms into two sub-channels then into two LA2's..THEN thru two additional Quad Eight noise gates..and overheads into two Spectra Sonics limiters..ran 5 tracks of drums into a 2 inch 16 track machine, (one of the first made with a 16 track headstack) It sounded way ahead of it's time. We were also one of the first studios to loop a kick drum. One measure of kick..looped on a 1/4 inch machine..so it stayed EXACTLY the same tempo wise..we also learned how to pre-delay vocal signal going into the reverb chamber (we had a great EMT plate reverb that looked as big as a mattress leaning against the wall)..Now all of that and so much more can be done with an effects box or even a little mini-console with effects for under 299.00! Jeeesh!
But the ideal box would have in this order a TUBE preamp..into a downward expander..into an adjustable compressor..then into a four band parametric (that can be assigned to either work pre or post expander and compressor) then a separate and QUICK gate..that could be switched out of the path. I wish Jim Loupas would design and build that..it would be the ultimate preamp/processing box for voiceover. Slap Cip's or LaFontaine's name on it and watch it sell! Holy Cow!
I'm back with my new setup...
Gefell MT 71s mic
GML 2032 pre/eq
Neve 5043 compressor
Lynx L22 soundcard
I hope everyone is doing well and everyone has a nice holiday!
http://www.johnweeksaudio.com/micchains/71s_gml_neve.mp3
Gefell MT 71s mic
GML 2032 pre/eq
Neve 5043 compressor
Lynx L22 soundcard
I hope everyone is doing well and everyone has a nice holiday!
http://www.johnweeksaudio.com/micchains/71s_gml_neve.mp3
V
voiceguy
Guest
Hey gang...
Merry Christmas...
I've got a new toy I wanted to tell ya about...The LMNOPre from Little Labs. It's fantastic. Big fan of it. I was trying it out for a week or so, and I've decided to keep it. It's warm, almost as warm as a tube. It has this really awesome setup...
There's two separate gain knobs...one for Low Gain...which I think only goes up to 31db...then the HIGH GAIN goes up to 74db of gain. You can drive the input stage really hot, then it has a switchable output attenuator.
Then...the BEST part, is this little circuit you can punch in...you switch on the High Pass Filter, then you engage the "Low Frequency Resonance Control" and you can actually tune the proximity effect!
It's really cool. When I'm back in my studio, I'll post some examples. It's also got a front panel input and rear panel, so if you want, you can run two microphones off of it...although, I'm finding that I have to make minor tweaks to it between my NTG-3 and my U87...so I'm going to just keep it on my U87 and go back to the True for my NTG-3
Anywho, just wanted to throw it out there.
Have a groovy Holiday!
Mike B
Merry Christmas...
I've got a new toy I wanted to tell ya about...The LMNOPre from Little Labs. It's fantastic. Big fan of it. I was trying it out for a week or so, and I've decided to keep it. It's warm, almost as warm as a tube. It has this really awesome setup...
There's two separate gain knobs...one for Low Gain...which I think only goes up to 31db...then the HIGH GAIN goes up to 74db of gain. You can drive the input stage really hot, then it has a switchable output attenuator.
Then...the BEST part, is this little circuit you can punch in...you switch on the High Pass Filter, then you engage the "Low Frequency Resonance Control" and you can actually tune the proximity effect!
It's really cool. When I'm back in my studio, I'll post some examples. It's also got a front panel input and rear panel, so if you want, you can run two microphones off of it...although, I'm finding that I have to make minor tweaks to it between my NTG-3 and my U87...so I'm going to just keep it on my U87 and go back to the True for my NTG-3
Anywho, just wanted to throw it out there.
Have a groovy Holiday!
Mike B
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