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Michelle McPhee on Tim Russert

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Mickey37

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I was listening to her comments about Tim Russert Friday evening, and she talked about his credibility, his search for the truth. She then went on to mention others in that vein, and she mentioned.....Mike Barnicle??

She's young, perhaps Ms. McPhee forgot Mr. Banicle's little problem that cost him his Globe job?

Oh well. She's a good foot soldier for her bosses at 969. She's totally local, an East Boston girl, and her unpolished sound is somewhat refreshing. But at times like this, she also sounds a little out of her league. I don't doubt her memories of Tim Russert, but if she holds people like Mike Barnicle up as standards of anything, then she loses a bit of credibility.
 
Mickey37 said:
I was listening to her comments about Tim Russert Friday evening, and she talked about his credibility, his search for the truth. She then went on to mention others in that vein, and she mentioned.....Mike Barnicle??

She's young, perhaps Ms. McPhee forgot Mr. Banicle's little problem that cost him his Globe job?

I don't doubt her memories of Tim Russert, but if she holds people like Mike Barnicle up as standards of anything, then she loses a bit of credibility.
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Well, for what it's worth, Tom Brokaw mentioned Mike Barnicle as well tonight on MSNBC. He mentioned "Mike Barnicle is another with the same dogged work ethic and one who never forgot his humble roots like Tim Russert....."

Did Tom Brokaw just lose all his credibility too?
 
Yeah, Mickey...your outrage kinda struck out here...Barnicle and Russert were extremely close friends (regardless of what happened at the Globe). He was on MSNBC last night with tears in his eyes...

Credibility retained?
 
iknowpeople said:
Yeah, Mickey...your outrage kinda struck out here...Barnicle and Russert were extremely close friends (regardless of what happened at the Globe). He was on MSNBC last night with tears in his eyes...

Credibility retained?
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Nope, it's still missing. I saw that too, apparently they were friends, and the plagerist was recounting his sons baptism and Tim was there...a touching story.

But Mickey's point remains in tact. Saying Barnicle is "right up there" with Russert is a huge mis-statement.
 
BearFur said:
iknowpeople said:
Yeah, Mickey...your outrage kinda struck out here...Barnicle and Russert were extremely close friends (regardless of what happened at the Globe). He was on MSNBC last night with tears in his eyes...

Credibility retained?
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Nope, it's still missing. I saw that too, apparently they were friends, and the plagerist was recounting his sons baptism and Tim was there...a touching story.

But Mickey's point remains in tact. Saying Barnicle is "right up there" with Russert is a huge mis-statement.
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So, we're putting Michelle McPhee in the same category as Tom Brokaw?

Not bad company.....
 
Since her show has been described as someone "shouting her show from the back porch of a three-decker in Revere" then her neighbors in Revere were probably listening as well.
 
blamethemayo said:
dont worry folks. im sure only 4 people were listening.
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Evening cume on WTKK is: 48,000 people.
[7th place (share), 7th place for AQH, 7th place for TSL.]

RKO's evening cume: 47,500 people.

BZ's evening cume was: 54,000 people.


(Last trend, 7P-12M, P25-54)
 
I think it's safe to say that Barnicle is no Tim Russert, although it seems pretty clear that he certainly would like to be. And just to toss it out there, just because Mr. Barnicle had an issue with his integrity at the local paper doesn't necessarily mean that all his journalism is faulty or that doesn't warrant some merit. Shameful yes, but he may have worked hard at the alleged plaigarism.

And disgraced though he may have been, that shouldn't reflect upon his social ability to be an outstanding friend to anyone, I wouldn't think.
 
I am no fan of McPhee, unless she is talking about crime (even then her biased love of cops clouds her ability to cover the topic fairly) or some insipid subject like should men wear Spedos, she generally has no idea what she is talking about. She has a face for radio and a voice for newspapers.

However, I believe Barnicles' son Tim is named after Russert and he is his Godfather. Sincce she has high regard for Barnicle, I think she was trying to be kind.

Since she works 6 days a week, I can only assume they are paying her short money and with decent ratings
she will survive despite her very limited range and the fact that there are several other local figures who would be much better in that slot.
 
iknowpeople said:
Yeah, Mickey...your outrage kinda struck out here...Barnicle and Russert were extremely close friends (regardless of what happened at the Globe). He was on MSNBC last night with tears in his eyes...

Credibility retained?
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Please understand, there's no "outrage" here. I was commenting on Ms. McPhee's puttng Mike Barnicle on a journalistic plane with Tim Russert.

The two of them were very good friends, that's been well documented. I don't think Mr. Barnicle's been crying crocodile tears, he's been very upset about losing a friend.

When I heard Ms. McPhee holding up Mr. Barnicle as someone who she thought was a truth seeker, similar to what the late Mr. Russert was, it struck me as either she didn't know the history, or didn't care about it.

I realize that even Richard Nixon's image was largely rehabilitated late in his life, but while I used to read Barnicle religiously in the Globe, he disappointed me and a lot of other readers when the truth came out.

My opinion only. Yours may differ, and to that I say, it's your right to be wrong ;o)
 
Keith321 said:
BearFur said:
iknowpeople said:
Yeah, Mickey...your outrage kinda struck out here...Barnicle and Russert were extremely close friends (regardless of what happened at the Globe). He was on MSNBC last night with tears in his eyes...

Credibility retained?
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Nope, it's still missing. I saw that too, apparently they were friends, and the plagerist was recounting his sons baptism and Tim was there...a touching story.

But Mickey's point remains in tact. Saying Barnicle is "right up there" with Russert is a huge mis-statement.
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So, we're putting Michelle McPhee in the same category as Tom Brokaw?

Not bad company.....
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As far as level of perfected speech? Yes. Other than that? No, Brokaw outshines her by light years.

I'd Love to Lick a Lemon Lollipop in Lillehammer
 
Plagiarism by the three Globe columnists was more than just "alleged", it was proven (though Borges's case was an interpretation and I would have given him a break based on years of good service).

I have no doubt there is a clique of friends surrounding Russert. They enjoy their multi-media jobs and big salries. But I question their motivations, not based on political leanings but on what they perceive as potential threats to their own status.

Did Russert for example, say anything about this crazy plan to ocupy an Islamic
country at trillions of $$$ in expense? He was good at what he did (and a nice person) but a monumental journalist? I don't think so.
 
Blackroc said:
I have no doubt there is a clique of friends surrounding Russert. They enjoy their multi-media jobs and big salries. But I question their motivations, not based on political leanings but on what they perceive as potential threats to their own status.
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Well, that's pretty pessimistic....

While Barnicle image has sufferred amongst Bostonians, he has not been affected elsewhere.

I don't think that Brokaw or McPhee were referring to their "friendship"...as much as some of the similar character traits.

Both Russert and Barnicle are hard workers (workaholics). While you may not like Barnicle, personally or professionally, he is anything but lazy. Always doing 3 jobs, etc.

Russert and Barnicle came from the same roots...and were similar in the values they held as an adult.

Both were from working class Irish Catholic roots...and as adults they still made no secret that their faith was important to them as an individual. Both were devout family men.

Both men, were anything but pretentious. If you met either of them in a coffee shop, they were both congenial, polite and would take the time to say hello to you.

Add to that neither of them was a "pretty face" for television. ;-)
 
Blackroc said:
Plagiarism by the three Globe columnists was more than just "alleged", it was proven (though Borges's case was an interpretation and I would have given him a break based on years of good service).
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OK, I didn't know that, so I wasn't going to make claim that it was proven if I didn't know if it was or not. Thanks for the correction.
 
should the thread be titled "McPhee's opinion of Barnicle"?

I thought Barnicle's problem was fabrication involving two families and a nurse that told him a story, not plagiarism. That is why he left the Globe
 
scranton said:
I thought Barnicle's problem was fabrication involving two families and a nurse that told him a story, not plagiarism. That is why he left the Globe
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That was one of the problems.

Another was reviewing books he had not read (on TV).

But he also was accused of lifting some ideas, phrases and fragments from Mike Royko's column.

Blackroc said:
Plagiarism by the three Globe columnists was more than just "alleged", it was proven
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I don't think any claim of plaigerism was ever "proven" against Barnicle. (Proven where? In a court of law?)

As far as I recall, he ended up leaving the Globe "on his own" and was not let go like Smith was, etc.
 
Keith321 said:
scranton said:
I thought Barnicle's problem was fabrication involving two families and a nurse that told him a story, not plagiarism. That is why he left the Globe
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That was one of the problems.

Another was reviewing books he had not read (on TV).

But he also was accused of lifting some ideas, phrases and fragments from Mike Royko's column.
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He was also nailed for lifting from George Carlin's publishings
 
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