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Mike Malloy controversial comments

It's obvious from some of your comments you work in radio. You've mentioned over and over that the hosts are the problem -- or, at least enough of the hosts in talk radio are the problem. But don't these hosts -- just like anyone else on an airstaff -- answer to the program directors? Aren't they being coached by the PD to run their show the way it is run?

Maybe the national hosts don't have the equivalent of a program director. But I'm certain that local hosts do.

So how do PDs, and other management at radio stations fit in to this problem with talk radio?

I have mentioned repeatedly in other threads that ultimately it IS the programmers and managers who are to blame for the state of talkradio today. I have witnessed firsthand the lack of oversight that has some hosts going completely over the line and airing the most ridiculous and unfounded claims about Obama and/or the government in general. I don't know how many of these programmers can sleep at night or look at themselves in the mirror knowing how much misinformation or outright falsehoods their hosts are spreading.

When I first got into talkradio in the 1980's, PD's would never have let the reckless and irresponsible garbage that airs today get out over the air. Any hosts who did that would be reined in, and if that didn't work, fired.

That accountability was still in play well into the 1990's during the conservative talkradio onslaught. Over the last 10 years, especially the last 6 since Obama was elected, all bets were off. When you have local hosts scaring audiences right before election day with fantastic stories of how an Obama civilian police force is going to kick in their door to take their guns, etc. and the local PD continually allows this type content, things have gotten a bit out of hand.

People are tired of it and have left the format.
 
Who is stopping you from posting your opinions here? No one. Stop playing victim. We already have one of those here. We don't need another.

My point isn't about this board. This board is fine. My point is that people don't get the same kind of open discussion at talk radio stations because the gatekeepers control the conversation. And you act like this is an extension of your show. It's not.

What has negotiating with terrorists gotten Israel? Absolutely nothing.

Only because they go into those discussions with a closed mind. They never intended to negotiate. So the killing continues. No problem.
 
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But don't these hosts -- just like anyone else on an airstaff -- answer to the program directors? Aren't they being coached by the PD to run their show the way it is run?

It depends. Some are, some aren't. Some PDs are running six stations. Some GMs just watch the money. That leaves it to the talent to run the store. When the show is a big hit, the talent gets more control. Then you end up with a big gorilla who can't be told anything because it's in his contract. Those are the people I'm talking about.
 
All of this Second Amendment posturing may turn out to be one outstanding example of Talk Radio "mooning" the radio audience. For the past two days I spent some time chasing a topic that never really has been all that high up on my list: The Second Amendment, and what was the vision of guns that the people who wrote the Consitituion had.

This is hilarious. It is a layman's observation and I have not done any research of legal precedents on the issue in the last two hundred years or so.

Guns in the late 1700's were about half a notch beyond the Blunderbuss stage of gun development. They were muzzle-loaders. You got one shot and then you cleaned the bore, took your little bag or horn of powder and poured some down the barrel, poked in some wadding maybe, and dropped a little close-to-round ball of shot down the barrel which rattled and shuddered as it fell into place. Just to make sure you got it where it should go, you took the ram-rod again and made sure the shot was all the way in.

These were not personal self-defense weapons you would take down to the local tavern to defend yourself in case a criminal walked in the door, announced a hold-up and demanded your wallet and your gold. Yes, if you were carrying around your muzzle loader gun already loaded, you got ONE SHOT at the bad guy, and the accuracy of the weapons of the era was bad.

Here is how they were used. You lined up your men, your soldiers, your "militia" if you please so you had a line maybe 6, 12 or even 18 soldiers wide. Right behind them would line up a second tier of soldiers. The guns had long barrels... no so much to improve the lousy accuracy of these Blunderbuss contraptions, but so that the barrel of the guns in the back row would be as far forward as the heads of the people in the front row, The shot and the wadding and everything else came out of that barrel going a little bit in whatever direction it damn well pleased, and long barrels kept the back row soldiers from blowing the ears and scalp and arms off the soldiers in the front row.

The game was play with the opponents lining up in a similar fashion on the other side of the battle line so the idea was to have your troops... all 15 to 30 of them lay down a shower of flying lead which kind of went any which way it wanted to in the general direction of the opposing line, and if you were lucky, you could recognize that enough of them had just been shot that you could rush forward with your bayonets and finish off the survivors. Of course, as you rushed forward, the survivors on the other side might unleash their own shower of flying lead and come rushing out with their bayonets headed your direction.

There was no accuracy in these guns. You could not be a "sniper" in the sense that we use the word today.

Nobody who contributed to the writing of the Constitution had any vision or concept of the day when we could have little pistols hidden in our clothing and in case of a threatening situation, pull that thing out, and if you have been to the range regularly, put 6, 7 or maybe 9 well placed rounds right in the face or the gut of the bad guy trying to rob you.

It appears that writers of the 2nd amendment had two target situations they wanted to speak to. The Northern states feared the return of the English (which did happen in 1812?) and so they saw the need for citizens to have in their possession these awkward, poor results, muzzle loading belch-fire specials that could quickly be brought together to face the English or some other foreign government. The Southern states appeared to have more fear of their own national government coming after them with a demand that they give up their slaves. The Southern states representatives in particular wanted no part of a militia system that reported to the Federal government, they insisted on a militia that reported only to the state.

The Southern States in some cases were also scared that when 80% of their population was slaves, and 20% the European land owners, they wanted a militia available to put down slave uprisings.

It was not like all the people at the Constitutional convention were sitting around lovey-dovey singing Kumbaiyah every night. There were a number of hard fought compromises that a lot of people were not happy with that had to be worked out to get the Constitution and the Bill of Rights to squeak through.

For people to come along today and put out this current day 2nd amendment story that the framers of the Constitution intended for everyone to be free to bring their pistols and AR-15s to all kinds of public gatherings is not supported by history. More than 70 years after the Constitution was unveiled, when we had that little unpleasantness we call the Civil War, most of the long guns were still muzzle loaders! Six shooters were arriving in that era. The lever action Winchester 73 made famous in the movies would come along later. The idea of "bullets with powder and a primer to fire them" basically arrive in the late 1800s.

To say that the Second Amendment was hatched full developed and fully understood by The Founding Fathers the way we are asked to swallow it today.... is not THE TRUTH.

There may not be another topic that better demonstrates how messed up Talk Radio has become.
 
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Whether it is a legislative committee working on a new bill, or a corporation trying to iron out employee policy or work out a new policy for a warranty program for the company's product, the discussion has to start with the "small moving parts". Until what we used to call "group dynamics" get to simmering and cooking by tackling smaller elements one at a time, the group will just come unglued if they try to discuss the big issues, the full issue before the group has established trust and flexibilty and the ability to communicate among themselves.

Discussing the details first instead of the "big picture" first is what results in the slippery slope of, "We've been discussing this forever, it's time to just DO IT." I know a lot of dead people around my age who would have preferred it if the government would have say down and decided what our ultimate goal in Vietnam should have been back in the late 50's to mid 60's, instead of starting with "small moving parts" like a few advisors, then a few more advisors, then a few troops, then air support, and suddenly we're in a full blown war we never intended to be in.
 
Almost no one ever had their mind changed by a radio show.

That's just wrong. No caller ever had his mind changed by a host. No host ever had his mind changed by a caller. But the listeners out there (or the lurkers in here) who hear the discussion are sometimes persuaded to change their opinions. News/talk alone won't do it. No single thing alone will do it. Minds are changed by multiple inputs from multiple sources. Radio is one of those sources, just not the only source.
 
Guns in the late 1700's were about half a notch beyond the Blunderbuss stage of gun development. They were muzzle-loaders. You got one shot and then you cleaned the bore, took your little bag or horn of powder and poured some down the barrel, poked in some wadding maybe, and dropped a little close-to-round ball of shot down the barrel which rattled and shuddered as it fell into place. Just to make sure you got it where it should go, you took the ram-rod again and made sure the shot was all the way in.

The amendment says the right to bear ARMS. It doesn't mention guns. The precedent for requiring this amendment stems from bans the English crown placed on peasants owning swords or bows & arrows.
 
The amendment says the right to bear ARMS. It doesn't mention guns. The precedent for requiring this amendment stems from bans the English crown placed on peasants owning swords or bows & arrows.

With that in mind, Jefferson certainly didn't want to arm the slaves. That wouldn't be a good idea.
 
The amendment says the right to bear ARMS. It doesn't mention guns. The precedent for requiring this amendment stems from bans the English crown placed on peasants owning swords or bows & arrows.

When you follow this history of the piece of land where my house is, the deed traces back to a piece of land that was tranferred through the Land Lottery where property was taken from the Cherokee people and they were sent on their merry way to Oklahoma in an event commonly known as "The Trail of Tears".

So here we have a piece of logic that says the Second Amendment guaranteed the Cherokee people that they could run to the nearest K-Mart when they arrived in Oklahoma and pick up their Constitutionally guaranteed bow-and-arrow.... but screw you, we're taking your land.

Pardon me for violating the "Yellow Box Rules" but that has to be one of the most obscene bits of constitutional logic I have ever heard.
 
My point isn't about this board. This board is fine. My point is that people don't get the same kind of open discussion at talk radio stations because the gatekeepers control the conversation. And you act like this is an extension of your show. It's not.

Aside from 2 or 3 things, my show is wide open to anyone with any view. That's my whole point. You're the one trying to project my on air stuff with what I'm saying here. No one is shutting anyone up here.



Only because they go into those discussions with a closed mind. They never intended to negotiate. So the killing continues. No problem.

I have a feeling you have the parties with "closed minds" and "never intending to negotiate" completely backwards. Please tell me I'm wrong.
 
I have not done any research

Obviously. Despite being told in this very thread where you can go to find out the INTENT OF THE FOUNDERS.

The Second Amendment is designed for the public to protect against tyranny. It wasn't made to protect the rights to own a musket or a blunderbuss. It was MADE TO PROTECT AGAINST TYRANNY. This means the public has the right to whatever weapons they would need to do this. It's not about specific weapons. IT IS NOT ABOUT SPECIFIC WEAPONS. Stop focusing on the weapons themselves and focus on the REASON they are needed.

That means in 2014 America, the American people have the RIGHT to own an AR-15 with as many rounds of ammunition as they want to own. That means they can carry a pistol concealed without asking permission from the state. That means if they think a freaking samurai sword will protect them, they can carry it.

The founders didn't mention specific weapons because it's not about the weapons. It's about the right to defend oneself against a tyrannical government.
 
Here you have done what we hear on a regular basis in Talk Radio:


Small Market Guy creates a post that begins with a quote taken from a post I made:

Quote Originally Posted by Goat Rodeo Cowboy
I have not done any research

But here is what I posted.... IN CONTEXT....


All of this Second Amendment posturing may turn out to be one outstanding example of Talk Radio "mooning" the radio audience. For the past two days I spent some time chasing a topic that never really has been all that high up on my list: The Second Amendment, and what was the vision of guns that the people who wrote the Constitution had.

This is hilarious. It is a layman's observation and I have not done any research of legal precedents on the issue in the last two hundred years or so.


You may do a wonderful, commendable job when you do your on-air broadcast...
but do you really feel the selective quote of me that you published was an honest representation of what I originally posted?

I DID TWO DAYS OF RESEARCH on gun technology time frames.... I DID NOT RESEARCH THE RESULTS OF LEGAL PROCEEDINGS.
 
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It's about the right to defend oneself against a tyrannical government.

Seems very 18th century. These are the same founders who didn't want the public to actually vote for Senators or the President. So you're saying they gave the public the right to overthrow forcibly, while not initially giving them the right to overthrow peaceably.

The Afghans will tell you that you can have the best arms given to you by the Soviets or the Americans, and it still won't be enough to defend oneself against tyranny.

If the slaves had not been deprived of their natural born rights, perhaps the Civil War wouldn't have been necessary.

I think the general view at the time was that "Godless savages" don't have natural born rights.
 
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But Congress has the power to regulate interstate commerce, and most, if not all medicine practiced in the US today involves interstate commerce.

That argument is now, and always has been, a major stretch of reality, going beyond all reason.

So here we have a piece of logic that says the Second Amendment guaranteed the Cherokee people that they could run to the nearest K-Mart when they arrived in Oklahoma and pick up their Constitutionally guaranteed bow-and-arrow.... but screw you, we're taking your land.

Sorry, but the fact that the Constitution was violated doesn't mean that the Constitution doesn't say what it says, and that what it says means what it says. The atrocities perpetrated on Native Americans weren't legal. But just because something that is done is done illegally doesn't mean it didn't happen.

It also didn't say anyone could "pick up" anything. The right to bear arms doesn't mean free arms are provided, any more than the right to freedom of the press doesn't include free paper, ink, and a printing press.

I DID TWO DAYS OF RESEARCH on gun technology time frames.... I DID NOT RESEARCH THE RESULTS OF LEGAL PROCEEDINGS.

That was a real waste of your time, since the issue isn't firearms technology, it's about the right to the means of self defense.
 
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That argument is now, and always has been, a major stretch of reality, going beyond all reason.

Are you sure you're not a talk radio host?

Sometimes, as the Chief Justice taught us last year, "a major stretch of reality, going beyond all reason," is enough to make a bill Constitutional. So there are some strict Constitutionalists who also keep an open mind.
 
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