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Monmouth/Ocean Ratings

This book seems to show a downward trend for many stations in the market.

WFAN is up, helped no doubt by the big football season.

The two Breeze stations have performed deservingly well, and have likely picked up a few listeners that were unhappy with WJRZ's new direction. It's close enough to a traditional AC, but different enough to attract listeners who aren't usually fans of the format.

WOBM took a tumble, perhaps also hurt by The Breeze. Very stale sounding and sappy - in need of some changes.

G Rock is down a bit. I'm a fan of the Alternative format and this station, but I think this is a sign that the listener doesn't want to hear the same old Green Day, Pearl Jam, Nirvana etc. tracks played to death.

WRAT drops a bit. This station has to be affected by an obscene amount of repetition and an overall sound that's too soft. Time for some musical tinkering.

Decent showing for CD 101.9. Smooth Jazz would be a good format choice for any struggling station in the market. WQCD's ratings in the next book will likely be affected by the Smooth Jazz format that launched on 97.5.

WJRZ, as mentioned before, down to their lowest ratings in recent history. Greater Media applied the "Oldies evolving to Classic Hits" formula that thay have used elsewhere, but in a market with many residents who remember the '50s and '60s fondly - not a smart move.

WAXQ (Q 104) doing surprisingly well. Either a sign of a quality format, or more likely...

...that listeners are growing tired of 105.7 The Hawk. There is no justifiably excuse for a signal of this magnitude to be garnering such anemic ratings. Time for a format change - I suggest either Active Rock (featuring acts not heard elsewhere, like Korn, System Of A Down and Slipknot) or Smooth Jazz.

WABC and NJ 101.5 continue to perform strong, and it's not hard to see why - they're in touch with their listeners, providing the news and entertainment that they are seeking.

On the other side of the coin, we have the botched Free-FM experiment represented on the lower end by two stations. We all know that there are some persistent, patient folks calling the shots at CBS, but sooner or later they have to realize that this has been a failure of unprecedented proportions. Both WFNY (NYC) and WYSP (Philly) have lost 50% or more of their audience from before the switch. Since no one is serving the audience they abandoned in either market, the time is right to pull the plug on Free and return to the old, moderately successful formats.
 
Soulcrusher, your bias wanting alt-rock is showing.

The "moderately successful" alt-rock formats were buoyed by Howard's numbers. If they went back to alt-rock, I have a feeling you'd be seeing the same numbers as Free is gettign right now.

Everyone smashed JACK when it started, and guess what? 18 months after it's launch, it's.. wait for it... showing signs of growth.
 
dkocw said:
How did WKMK do (esp vs WPUR)? Or were they not ranked in this book?

KMK actually had a nice showing - very, VERY respectable ratings for a new station. PUR didn't show in the book.

I'm not sure what the arbitron rules are, but KMK was nipping at the heels of WRAT, Z-100, and LTW.
 
Starscream said:
dkocw said:
How did WKMK do (esp vs WPUR)? Or were they not ranked in this book?

KMK actually had a nice showing - very, VERY respectable ratings for a new station. PUR didn't show in the book.

I'm not sure what the arbitron rules are, but KMK was nipping at the heels of WRAT, Z-100, and LTW.

I have to say that I'm impressed. There are a heck of a lot more Country fans out there than I thought, but then again I often forget that Monmouth/Ocean is a devoutly Christian, predominantly Republican area. WKMK did post surprisingly strong ratings for a first book, and I heard it playing in several places. Maybe people out here just didn't know of the existence of Cat Country, or there are many Country fans in the area that is exclusive to K 98.5.

Starscream said:
Soulcrusher, your bias wanting alt-rock is showing.

The "moderately successful" alt-rock formats were buoyed by Howard's numbers. If they went back to alt-rock, I have a feeling you'd be seeing the same numbers as Free is gettign right now.

Everyone smashed JACK when it started, and guess what? 18 months after it's launch, it's.. wait for it... showing signs of growth.

I always knew there was a chance of an upswing for Jack even though I criticized the move. In a market with tons of format holes, Jack is starting to find a way to pull in the listeners that aren't tuned in elsewhere - my brother, who is a Modern Rock fan, lives in the area and listens to them most frequently.

Free (NYC), on the other hand, has been around for a year and has pretty much stagnated with low ratings. We have O&A (sanitized version of the XM show - big whoop), The Doghouse (Stern wannabes), The Radio Chick (stands out like a sore thumb on this lineup - have her do the morning show on Fresh instead), Penn Jillette (good, but only an hour), Ron & Fez (right now, they're Free NY's only hope), and a bunch of personalities that are obscure to the NYC audience. The music is being almost completely eliminated, which may or may not be a good thing (taking into account the weak AOR fare they have been playing, I think it is).

I'll tell you why I'm not optimistic about Free improving. CBS tried this exact format on WNEW and the ship sank. O&A anchored the station back then, but were exclusive to the FM dial - it was the beginning of the end after they were fired. Ron & Fez were around as well, but it wasn't enough to keep 'NEW on the air. The current talk format lacks controversial personalities like Tom Leykis that personify the whole "free speech" thing CBS was pushing with the launch of the format - like him or not, you listened because you didn't know what he was going to say next. I just don't think the lineup is strong enough to expand on their current audience, and CBS must be disappointed with O&A's ratings after their much ballyhooed return to the FM airwaves. They are to Free what Stern was to K-Rock, and I expect major changes if things don't improve within the coming year - either some time slot shuffling, or simply giving up on Free. Look at the disaster that 'NEW has been in recent years - it's not like CBS is incapable of lapses in judgment.
 
SoulCrusher, Leykis was tried on WNEW and he was an abysmal failure. In fact, it was Leykis' failure that led to the Ron and Fez growing their audience in his slot.

Also, Free's lineup has changed a LOT since the format started a year ago. O&A came in late April/Early May, the Kramer experiment was ended, and the shows were shifted around with the addition of Nick DiPaulo. They haven't even had a book yet with the new lineup, so give it a chance.
 
besides ny stations all local stations did well. some went down since last book but when was that book anyway. the breeze,943 the point and grock made top 15 monmouth local ,and ocean county stations did so-so with wrat and wobm , wjrz what happened thier ? and wobm-am whow alot of seniors i guess becauce wvnj cant even get in the nyc book. also anybody knew whats the number 1 morning show in mo-ocean as i like to call it?
 
Starscream said:
KMK actually had a nice showing - very, VERY respectable ratings for a new station. PUR didn't show in the book.

I'm not sure what the arbitron rules are, but KMK was nipping at the heels of WRAT, Z-100, and LTW.

WKMK debuting in 19th place is "very respectable"? On the surface, no, but that's about all that they're gonna get out of that station relative to its physical location in the market. 98.5 pulled a big 0.0 12+ in Monmouth County.

Also interesting to note that WPUR remained the only Atlantic City station to show-up and WXTU went up as well. People in Monmouth-Ocean really like country music, but not enough to completely rally around their hometown station apparently.
 
SoulCrusher said:
G Rock is down a bit. I'm a fan of the Alternative format and this station, but I think this is a sign that the listener doesn't want to hear the same old Green Day, Pearl Jam, Nirvana etc. tracks played to death.

G Rock going down is one of the big stories from this book. They should have gone way up, especially with that new 106.5 signal.

Decent showing for CD 101.9. Smooth Jazz would be a good format choice for any struggling station in the market. WQCD's ratings in the next book will likely be affected by the Smooth Jazz format that launched on 97.5.

I disagree here. 101.9 hasn't done anything radically different over the past 6-12 months to give weight to its jump. I would think lucky book placement here.

WJRZ, as mentioned before, down to their lowest ratings in recent history. Greater Media applied the "Oldies evolving to Classic Hits" formula that thay have used elsewhere, but in a market with many residents who remember the '50s and '60s fondly - not a smart move.

WJRZ down, little WHTG-AM up 50%! Whooda thunk.
 
Starscream said:
Leykis was tried on WNEW and he was an abysmal failure.

True, but didn't O&A, the then up & coming stars of WNEW, help bring Leykis's ratings down with their repeated constant bashing of him to the WNEW core audience? Think of how awful The Greaseman did on K-Rock back in the day despite doing well elsewhere; I'm sure Stern making a mockery of his show to the K-Rock audience was a factor. Leykis does very well on the west coast and now that apparantly no one listens or cares what O&A have to say, the time is right to bring Leykis back to the local airwaves. His controversial views and humor could be just the shot in the arm Free FM needs right now.
 
Batfink said:
Starscream said:
Leykis was tried on WNEW and he was an abysmal failure.

True, but didn't O&A, the then up & coming stars of WNEW, help bring Leykis's ratings down with their repeated constant bashing of him to the WNEW core audience? Think of how awful The Greaseman did on K-Rock back in the day despite doing well elsewhere; I'm sure Stern making a mockery of his show to the K-Rock audience was a factor. Leykis does very well on the west coast and now that apparantly no one listens or cares what O&A have to say, the time is right to bring Leykis back to the local airwaves. His controversial views and humor could be just the shot in the arm Free FM needs right now.

OK. Where are you gonna put him? Tape delay talk radio shows in Market #1 doesn't exactly work. Ron and Fez have 6-9.

Don't blame O&A for the failures of other shows. O&A didn't like Radio Chick, and she was... well, there.

And don't forget, didn't WNEW bring back Leykis after O&A left? So he's had TWO chances in New York.
 
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