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more color from 1957-1961 in Boston?

Which station did more color broadcasts in Boston from 1957-1961? WBZ -4 with NBC programming or WHDH-5 with local programming and NBC programming not cleared by WBZ?
 
mgpt6 said:
Which station did more color broadcasts in Boston from 1957-1961? WBZ -4 with NBC programming or WHDH-5 with local programming and NBC programming not cleared by WBZ?
To put my two cents in I believe 5 had more local color shows news etc, but 4 had more NBC shows at that time?
 
FRM-Yankey said:
mgpt6 said:
Which station did more color broadcasts in Boston from 1957-1961? WBZ -4 with NBC programming or WHDH-5 with local programming and NBC programming not cleared by WBZ?
To put my two cents in I believe 5 had more local color shows news etc, but 4 had more NBC shows at that time?
Locally, WHDH-TV (Channel 5) was built for color from "day one" back in 1957. All live/local programming on Channel 5 was in color. WBZ-TV (Channel 4) pretty much did "pass through" color from NBC. Locally, WBZ-TV only did some color film programming from time to time. Otherwise, WBZ-TV did not do any live color until the mid '60's. "Boomtown" was in black and white (except for the color cartoons) until late 1968. WNAC-TV (Channel 7) was the last network affiliate in the market to do any local color in '66. Channel 7 did "pass through" color from ABC since '62 when "The Flintstones" became ABC's first color program.

WGBX-TV (Channel 44) was in color from the beginning (9/25/67), BEFORE WGBH-TV (Channel 2) went color a few months later.

WSBK-TV (Channel 38) went full color once the station was sold to Storer in 1966. WKBG-TV (Channel 56) went full color almost from the get go in December 1966. However their Inaugural show was in black and white as they were using some of the vintage equipment at the transmitter site in Woburn from the WTAO/WXHR days, just to get a signal on the air within less than 60 days. They were in full color by the end of the year.
 
mgpt6 said:
Anyone know when WBZ 4 began to pass through color shows from NBC after NBC stated limited color in 1954?
WBZ-TV pretty much passed through NBC color shows from the beginning. It was a charter affiliate of NBC from 1948 and used one of the early microwave links from New York to Boston. Eventhough WBZ-TV had limited local color from the get-go, they did broadcast all NBC color shows intact.
 
And even though it's outside the listed dates WNAC was on the CBS Color network in 1951. I don't believe any local stations used CBS color in the studio as there were just enough cameras for network use.
 
The mechanical CBS Color system, aka Wheel of Misfortune, obviously lost to RCA's all-electronic system, but IIRC it was adapted for use in broadcasting NASA pictures from the moon. (I am not making this up.)

Another interesting but outmoded and gimmicky color trick was something I read about in the early 60s, used at channel 6 in "Providence" (the part that's in Massachusetts). They had not gone to color at all, but they used some sort of pulsation in parts of their B&W picture to register in the brain as being red. This sounds like another "black and white and red all over" joke, but according to an ancient, 15 cent copy of TV Guide Ch 6 tried this, and supposedly some people "saw" the red portions of the ID slide (or 16mm film clip, maybe?) and some didn't. I'm surprised this didn't trigger seizures in some people, or if it did the folks at Triangle Publications of Radnor, PA did not report it in their magazine.
 
Anybody else remember the gizmo that you could place over the black and white screen and it would "make it look like color"? It had three colors in it and would add a touch of color to the screen. It was a bomb and didn't stay on the market very long.
 
Schuyler said:
The mechanical CBS Color system, aka Wheel of Misfortune, obviously lost to RCA's all-electronic system, but IIRC it was adapted for use in broadcasting NASA pictures from the moon. (I am not making this up.)

Another interesting but outmoded and gimmicky color trick was something I read about in the early 60s, used at channel 6 in "Providence" (the part that's in Massachusetts). They had not gone to color at all, but they used some sort of pulsation in parts of their B&W picture to register in the brain as being red. This sounds like another "black and white and red all over" joke, but according to an ancient, 15 cent copy of TV Guide Ch 6 tried this, and supposedly some people "saw" the red portions of the ID slide (or 16mm film clip, maybe?) and some didn't. I'm surprised this didn't trigger seizures in some people, or if it did the folks at Triangle Publications of Radnor, PA did not report it in their magazine.
Back in 1956 Dumont has a color system, i have a photo of a color test psttern that was trasmited from new york about that time.
 
Schuyler said:
The mechanical CBS Color system, aka Wheel of Misfortune, obviously lost to RCA's all-electronic system, but IIRC it was adapted for use in broadcasting NASA pictures from the moon. (I am not making this up.)

I remember the same thing. IIRC, they put a color wheel over a B&W camera. It was more portable (and lighter!) than the NTSC color cameras of the day since it only used one Vidicon tube. I think it was used on Apollo 12 and later.

Another interesting but outmoded and gimmicky color trick was something I read about in the early 60s, used at channel 6 in "Providence" (the part that's in Massachusetts). They had not gone to color at all, but they used some sort of pulsation in parts of their B&W picture to register in the brain as being red. This sounds like another "black and white and red all over" joke, but according to an ancient, 15 cent copy of TV Guide Ch 6 tried this, and supposedly some people "saw" the red portions of the ID slide (or 16mm film clip, maybe?) and some didn't. I'm surprised this didn't trigger seizures in some people, or if it did the folks at Triangle Publications of Radnor, PA did not report it in their magazine.

I remember reading something about this in a 1965-vintage Popular Electronics magazine. If I remember the article correctly (I couldn't find a copy on the interwebs), there was a wheel with alternating black and transparent bands that would interrrupt the black & white picture somehow and would give the illusion of certain colors, even on a monochrome CRT. Never saw one in person, however, so I don't know if it actually worked.
 
The WTEV deal was an ID slide with a large white 6. The 6 was rapidly pulsed, producing a faux color effect. Total, short lived gimmick. You missed nothing. CBS had an excellent sequential color system. RCA (Sarnoff) ultimately scotched the deal. The inferior NTSC (read RCA) multiplex color scheme was then chosen because it was "compatible" with the one million extant tv sets that CBS's system would've obsoleted. The superior sequential "color wheel" lives on and kicks royal ass today with those super clear and super bright Jumbotrons at so many sports stadiums/venues!
 
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