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More HITS ON GOOGLE FOR HD THAN XM!

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Mike Walker

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I just did a "google fight" search for XM Radio vs. HD Radio.

http://www.googlefight.com

The results? 49,400,000 for HD. 1,960,000.

Ok, so there's satellite radio than just XM. A valid observation. So I substituted "satellite radio" for "xm radio". The reusults? HD 49,400,000 (again), Satellite Radio 4,040!

So you guys that have been telling us that everything on Earth is revealed by a Google search....

;)
 
Mike Walker said:
I just did a "google fight" search for XM Radio vs. HD Radio.

http://www.googlefight.com

The results? 49,400,000 for HD. 1,960,000.

Ok, so there's satellite radio than just XM. A valid observation. So I substituted "satellite radio" for "xm radio". The reusults? HD 49,400,000 (again), Satellite Radio 4,040!

So you guys that have been telling us that everything on Earth is revealed by a Google search....

;)
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Google Trends:

http://www.google.com/trends?q="hd+radio",+"internet+radio",+xm,+sirius,+podcast

Statsaholic:

http://www.statsaholic.com/hdradio.com
http://www.statsaholic.com/xmradio.com
http://www.statsaholic.com/sirius.com

Statsaholic shows hit-counts on the consumer go-to sites for each of these technologies - the consumer site for HD Radio, hdradio.com, is almost dead.
 
But there's another way to read stats! How many times have I been told here that you could determine interest in a product by the number of hits on Google. Well HD Radio is KICKING ASS in terms of hits on Google.

My point isn't that this proves anything. It's that these stupid Google Trends and other charts ALSO don't prove anything. There's another way of looking at most anything.

By the way, MANY PEOPLE judge popularity, or interest in topics, by number of hits. And if you're judging the world by Google (I'm NOT!), it's as good a method as any!
 
Mike Walker said:
But there's another way to read stats! How many times have I been told here that you could determine interest in a product by the number of hits on Google. Well HD Radio is KICKING ASS in terms of hits on Google.

My point isn't that this proves anything. It's that these stupid Google Trends and other charts ALSO don't prove anything. There's another way of looking at most anything.

By the way, MANY PEOPLE judge popularity, or interest in topics, by number of hits. And if you're judging the world by Google (I'm NOT!), it's as good a method as any!
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"Sirius, XM, and HD: Consumer interest reality check"

"Finally, note the traffic for HDRadio.com which, although not a destination on the order of Sirius or XM, is the go-to site for further information about HD in many HD radio ads and promotions and is, thus, a good metric to gauge consumer interest. To the degree that these estimates are correct (Alexa isn't perfect) and to the degree that web traffic is a proxy for consumer interest, it looks like a long and slow race to the bottom. While interest in satellite radio is diminishing, interest in HD shows no signs of a pulse."

http://www.hear2.com/2007/02/sirius_xm_and_h.html

I don't know, what you are looking at, but both Google Trends and Statsaholic show almost zero activity for HD Radio:

http://www.statsaholic.com/hdradio.com
http://www.google.com/trends?q="hd+radio",+"internet+radio",+xm,+sirius,+podcast
 
If you don't know what I'm looking at, perhaps you should read what I wrote. Go to Google.com. Enter "HD Radio" as your search topic. You will get many millions more hits than if you enter "Satellite Radio", or "XM Radio". TENS OF MILLIONS MORE in the case of "Satellite Radio". THAT is what I'm talking about.

You may amusingly search both at once by using "googlefight.com" It lets you determind the popularity of search phrases by number of hits. There's a "fight", and the one with the most hits wins. And HD Radio WINS!
 
Mike Walker said:
If you don't know what I'm looking at, perhaps you should read what I wrote. Go to Google.com. Enter "HD Radio" as your search topic. You will get many millions more hits than if you enter "Satellite Radio", or "XM Radio". TENS OF MILLIONS MORE in the case of "Satellite Radio". THAT is what I'm talking about.

You may amusingly search both at once by using "googlefight.com" It lets you determind the popularity of search phrases by number of hits. There's a "fight", and the one with the most hits wins. And HD Radio WINS!
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The number of sites hit, on a regular Google search, has nothing to do with consumer interest - rather, it is both the number of times a particular topic is searched, and the number of hits on a particular consumer site:

http://www.statsaholic.com/hdradio.com
http://www.google.com/trends?q="hd+radio",+"internet+radio",+xm,+sirius,+podcast
 
Mike Walker said:
I just did a "google fight" search for XM Radio vs. HD Radio.

http://www.googlefight.com

The results? 49,400,000 for HD. 1,960,000.

Ok, so there's satellite radio than just XM. A valid observation. So I substituted "satellite radio" for "xm radio". The reusults? HD 49,400,000 (again), Satellite Radio 4,040!

So you guys that have been telling us that everything on Earth is revealed by a Google search....

;)
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"Googlefight"

"This site is not affiliated with or sponsored by Google"

"xm" - 32,300,000
"sirius" - 21,600,000
"hd radio" - 1,280,000

http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1="hd+radio"&word2=xm
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1="hd+radio"&word2=sirius

Oh Mike, aren't you glad that I took the bait on this nonsense ? :D
 
Not affiliated with Google, but IT USES GOOGLE'S ENGINE FOR SEARCH. I thought of using it because I heard about it on DLTV (an internet tech tv show sponsored by Ziff Davis).

By the way, Google hits register the number of times the search phrase is mentioned (in indexed pages) on the internet. DEFINITELY an indication of interest in that topic. It's why this tool is used so often!

These results have actually changed since I did the "fight" this afternoon. Strange. But it still shows more hits for HD Radio than XM Radio. Of course some of the XM hits could be something like "My friend XM Armstrong has satellite gps in his car, which he uses while driving and listening to the radio". That would register as "HD Radio" in a Google search, but it has NOTHING to do with it! For HD it could be somthing like "My HD (hard drive) crashed last night, so I couldn't surf. Fortunately I had my cb radio to pass the time." Both would have registered in these searches, and neither has anything to do with the subject.

As for "google trends" searches....remember hard drive is frequently abbreviated HD. As is Harley Davidson. So someone who searched for "1998 HD with radio" would show up as an HD radio search in Google Trends, and someone who searched for "XM extended medication radiotherapy" would turn up as a search for XM Radio. In other words, as they say in these parts, it don't mean nothin'!
 
PocketRadio said:
Googlefight results mean nothing,
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Agreed

but Google Trends and Statsaholic have valid results.
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They are valid but only for what they show. They DON'T show anything but internet usage. Or relative interest to internet users. Drawing any other conclusions is junk science.

Since hdradio.com is promoted in all of the HD Radio brochures and radio ads, Statsaholic shows very little activity at the consumer go-to site for HD Radio, hdradio.com:
http://www.statsaholic.com/hdradio.com
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This is the most irresponsible claim of a fact since ... well ever.

Sorry, but no amount of your reposting garbage makes it any more true than the first time you proclaimed these statistics have any meaning.

Garbage before = Garbage now

Clouseau
 
clouseau said:
Garbage before = Garbage now

Clouseau
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“Sirius, XM, and HD: Consumer interest reality check”

"Finally, note the traffic for HDRadio.com which, although not a destination on the order of Sirius or XM, is the go-to site for further information about HD in many HD radio ads and promotions and is, thus, a good metric to gauge consumer interest. To the degree that these estimates are correct (Alexa isn't perfect) and to the degree that web traffic is a proxy for consumer interest, it looks like a long and slow race to the bottom. While interest in satellite radio is diminishing, interest in HD shows no signs of a pulse."

http://www.hear2.com/2007/02/sirius_xm_and_h.html

"HD Radio Marketing Tool Kit"

http://www.hdradioalliance.com/marketing_tool_kit.php

What do you see, on the front of every consumer brochure - hdradio.com. What have we heard, over-and-over-again, during the HD Radio radio advertisements - hdradio.com. I'll keep beating the dead-horse, as long as all of you want ! :D
 
PocketRadio said:
I'll keep beating the dead-horse, as long as all of you want !
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We agree on something. Go for it.

Clouseau.
 
And the "dead horse" you keep beating will continue to run, because WE ARE THAT HORSE, and we ain't dead!
 
I wonder sometimes if PocketRadio uses some kind of a "bot" to post the same links over and over, because they often are not even related to what's being discussed...they simply take a line from someone (often me, or RF Burns), copy and paste it, then post the same damn links. Something a "bot" could easily be programmed to do. It doesn't look like real, rational, reasoned input from a human being!
 
I wonder sometimes if PocketRadio uses some kind of a "bot" to post the same links over and over, because they often are not even related to what's being discussed...they simply take a line from someone (often me, or RF Burns), copy and paste it, then post the same damn links. Something a "bot" could easily be programmed to do. It doesn't look like real, rational, reasoned input from a human being!
 
What's all this concern over beating dead horses anyway? I mean, anyone who does is arguably a little off, but the horse doesn't care, he's dead. Now, beating a LIVE horse... That's just mean.
 
PocketRadio said:
Mike Walker said:
And the "dead horse" you keep beating will continue to run, because WE ARE THAT HORSE, and we ain't dead!
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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=hdradio.com

BTW, there are 16,800 hits on Google for "hdradio.com" - yea, I guess hdradio.com is not relevant ! :D
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I bet 3/4 of all those hits on hdradio.com are made by Mike, RFBurns, Clouseau, Phillip, EasyPessy, and IBOCRocks.... too bad none of these people count towards the average Joe buying the HD radios at Walmart, Best Buy, or Circuit City, which of course is very little to none!


Radiopilot
 
Actually, no... I rarely EVER visit hdradio.com. That includes not bothering to click on the drool of URLs regurgitated on this site that link to it. I also do not consider any "# of visits" statistic factual to any degree, whether it is "pro" or "con" any topic.
 
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