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More on David Lee Roth (in an unstretched thread)

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Shamelessly copied from PBRTV, which is a fine website everyone should visit and support. (I figure they won't mind if I plagarize from them if I also praise them.)

Diamond Dave getting duller - (3/6) David Lee Roth was on vacation last week, and he may wish he could have stayed there. The reviews (and early ratings trends) are coming in, and they aren't kind for Roth's morning show, heard locally on "K-Rock" WRKZ-FM (93.7). The Cleveland Plain Dealer calls the show "unbelieveably inane" and its host an "aging gasbag." The Boston Herald calls the show "a bomb," while an editor at Radio & Records tells the New York Daily News that Roth is "one of the biggest and most high-profile failures in radio history." In some markets where Roth has replaced Howard Stern, he's lost 75 to 90 percent of the audience. In New York, according to the Post, where Stern had been No. 1, Roth's show is now 18th in the market --- just above the morning show on Spanish language AM talker WADO. In the fall, Stern on WRKZ was the second-highest rated morning show in Pittsburgh, after WDVE-FM's (102.5) Jim Krenn and Randy Baumann; the full impact of Roth on K-Rock's ratings won't be known until the winter Arbitron report is released May 1. (Jason Togyer, PBRTV correspondent)

End of copied material.

I knew DLR's show wasn't doing very well. I had no idea it was such a total failure.

And it even had billboards!
 
My Opinion of David Lee Roth's show.

When I listened the first week and he interviewed his uncle. It was kind of long. my first impression was it would not do so well. But just like Seinfeld
had to have a year and 1/2 to catch on I gave David Lee another chance. He had his sister lisa on the show. I thought she was much better. She was not just a laughing head. I am not sure about the side kick producer. But I asked three guys I work with. all in there 30's and 40's. They said they liked the show and they could quote what he said for segment after segment. I asked some guy in his 20's he liked the show. It's not Stern. Roth seems honest to me and not rude with his callers. It takes time. Critics have nothing to do but be critics. He seems to be able to make his callers open up. and he is respectful towards them. If I were CBS I'd let it ride. It might be one of the best ad bargains on Pgh radio.

> I knew DLR's show wasn't doing very well. I had no idea it
> was such a total failure.
>
> And it even had billboards!
>
 
Stern has be be rolling over and over in his $500 Million savings account, but this does go to show a person can make or break a radio station and now a whole network. the powers that be at CBS New York have a whole bunch of cleanup in isle 3, lets see how the big boys do it
 
Re: My Opinion of David Lee Roth's show.

> When I listened the first week and he interviewed his uncle.
> It was kind of long. my first impression was it would not
> do so well. But just like Seinfeld
> had to have a year and 1/2 to catch on I gave David Lee
> another chance. He had his sister lisa on the show. I
> thought she was much better. She was not just a laughing
> head. I am not sure about the side kick producer. But I
> asked three guys I work with. all in there 30's and 40's.
> They said they liked the show and they could quote what he
> said for segment after segment. I asked some guy in his 20's
> he liked the show. It's not Stern. Roth seems honest to me
> and not rude with his callers. It takes time. Critics have
> nothing to do but be critics. He seems to be able to make
> his callers open up. and he is respectful towards them. If
> I were CBS I'd let it ride. It might be one of the best ad
> bargains on Pgh radio.
>
> > I knew DLR's show wasn't doing very well. I had no idea it
>
> > was such a total failure.
> >
> > And it even had billboards!
> >
>

From what I hear, he infuriates CBS execs because he won't listen to anyone (to the surprise of absolutely no one...).

Look for him to be gone by summer.
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"With God as my witness, I could have sworn turkeys could fly."</P>
 
Re: My Opinion of David Lee Roth's show.

For what it's worth ...

I may be completely out of line because I have not had the chance to hear Roth's show. But, remembering the personality he sort of had in some music videos (specifically, "Just A Gigolo" and "California Girls"), I wonder if what he needs is a reminder. (I liked the "Dave TV" aspect that was the background for "Gigolo.")

Also, would it really have mattered who succeeded Stern? CBS Radio made it clear it never again would have the sort of dominant morning personality Stern became by breaking up Howard's lineup of stations.
 
Re: My Opinion of David Lee Roth's show.

> For what it's worth ...
>
> I may be completely out of line because I have not had the
> chance to hear Roth's show. But, remembering the personality
> he sort of had in some music videos (specifically, "Just A
> Gigolo" and "California Girls"), I wonder if what he needs
> is a reminder. (I liked the "Dave TV" aspect that was the
> background for "Gigolo.")
>
> Also, would it really have mattered who succeeded Stern? CBS
> Radio made it clear it never again would have the sort of
> dominant morning personality Stern became by breaking up
> Howard's lineup of stations.
>
A) CBS is trying to control this show, which they couldn't do with Stern; CBS, like so many other owners these days, knows the "business" of radio but are totally out of their element when it comes to the "entertainment" side.
B) It seems like the only people who don't like DLR also just happen to work in radio.
C) Stern took his audience with him; why are the poor ratings for DLR such big news?
 
I never heard it either

I never bothered checking out Roth's show because nothing I heard about it, neither from PR nor from paid advertising or market made me the list bit curious about it. If I didn't hang out in here, I doubt if I'd have even known he was taking over from Stern.

I do, however, know that he has shorter hair than he used to, and that he wears conservative suits with colorful linings. That information did not make me want to check out his show.

> For what it's worth ...
>
> I may be completely out of line because I have not had the
> chance to hear Roth's show. But, remembering the personality
> he sort of had in some music videos (specifically, "Just A
> Gigolo" and "California Girls"), I wonder if what he needs
> is a reminder. (I liked the "Dave TV" aspect that was the
> background for "Gigolo.")
>
> Also, would it really have mattered who succeeded Stern? CBS
> Radio made it clear it never again would have the sort of
> dominant morning personality Stern became by breaking up
> Howard's lineup of stations.
>
 
> Shamelessly copied from PBRTV, which is a fine website
> everyone should visit and support. (I figure they won't mind
> if I plagarize from them if I also praise them.)
>
> Diamond Dave getting duller - (3/6) David Lee Roth was on
> vacation last week, and he may wish he could have stayed
> there. The reviews (and early ratings trends) are coming in,
> and they aren't kind for Roth's morning show, heard locally
> on "K-Rock" WRKZ-FM (93.7). The Cleveland Plain Dealer calls
> the show "unbelieveably inane" and its host an "aging
> gasbag." The Boston Herald calls the show "a bomb," while an
> editor at Radio & Records tells the New York Daily News that
> Roth is "one of the biggest and most high-profile failures
> in radio history." In some markets where Roth has replaced
> Howard Stern, he's lost 75 to 90 percent of the audience. In
> New York, according to the Post, where Stern had been No. 1,
> Roth's show is now 18th in the market --- just above the
> morning show on Spanish language AM talker WADO. In the
> fall, Stern on WRKZ was the second-highest rated morning
> show in Pittsburgh, after WDVE-FM's (102.5) Jim Krenn and
> Randy Baumann; the full impact of Roth on K-Rock's ratings
> won't be known until the winter Arbitron report is released
> May 1. (Jason Togyer, PBRTV correspondent)
>
> End of copied material.
>
> I knew DLR's show wasn't doing very well. I had no idea it
> was such a total failure.
>
> And it even had billboards!
>
DLR seems to go into his shows unprepared. I think all or many of the stations should have went with local talent in the morning, which could have saved CBS this entire mess. Or better yet, CBS should have done more research in finding a replacement for Stern.
 
Re: My Opinion of David Lee Roth's show.

Yay, down with K-ROCK! Just my personal opinion. I dislike the station overall!<P ID="signature">______________
-S</P>
 
Van Halen?

I am abolutely with you on this opinion. If you think the whole thing through, the stations that lost Stern should have gone local. Find some nut, and put him on the air. Hire the janitor as a gamble. The local guy was the first step and all of radio missed the mark. Stern beat everyone to the punch on that one.He knew this stuff before all of you.<P ID="signature">______________
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Re: My Opinion of David Lee Roth's show.

> Yay, down with K-ROCK! Just my personal opinion. I dislike
> the station overall!
>

At the rate K-Rock is falling, I wouldn't be surprised if WORD-FM had better ratings in the next survey!<P ID="signature">______________
"This is perhaps one of the biggest and most high-profile failures in radio history."

~Adam Jacobson on David Lee Roth</P>
 
Re: My Opinion of David Lee Roth's show.

> > Yay, down with K-ROCK! Just my personal opinion. I
> dislike
> > the station overall!
> >
>
> At the rate K-Rock is falling, I wouldn't be surprised if
> WORD-FM had better ratings in the next survey!
>
lol. Isn't that the truth. I don't listen to the station, but a few of my friends are very religious and enjoy word fm.
 
Re: My Opinion of David Lee Roth's show.

> > > Yay, down with K-ROCK! Just my personal opinion. I
> > dislike
> > > the station overall!
> > >
> >
> > At the rate K-Rock is falling, I wouldn't be surprised if
> > WORD-FM had better ratings in the next survey!
> >
> lol. Isn't that the truth. I don't listen to the station,
> but a few of my friends are very religious and enjoy word
> fm.


I didn't mean to knock WORD-FM. I was only comparing the numbers. WORD seems to be on the rise, and it's closest in the ratings to K-Rock.
<P ID="signature">______________
"This is perhaps one of the biggest and most high-profile failures in radio history."

~Adam Jacobson on David Lee Roth</P>
 
WOW !!! Re: My Opinion of David Lee Roth's show.

WOW. I was just along for the ride on this thread til I read that. It's just so shocking to me. Picture this: you're in charge. You took Pittsburgh's reigning heritage-dominant CHR, ran it into the ground, scrapped the decades of heritage, built a crappy radio station around the one man who could not be corporately-dominated, and who remained at the helm for 6 months before departing to the sweetest deal in radio history, while that man used your airwaves for the longest running free infomercial ever and you let him. Now your copycat flagship Pittsburgh outlet (it's even branded after Howard's New York home station!) in the forthcoming book is about to get its ASS KICKED IN by THE JESUS STATION.

How would you like to be the guy riding that desk? Whew! Sucks to be you, Keith.


>
> I didn't mean to knock WORD-FM. I was only comparing the
> numbers. WORD seems to be on the rise, and it's closest in
> the ratings to K-Rock.
>
 
Re: WOW !!! Re: My Opinion of David Lee Roth's show.

> WOW. I was just along for the ride on this thread til I read
> that. It's just so shocking to me. Picture this: you're in
> charge. You took Pittsburgh's reigning heritage-dominant
> CHR, ran it into the ground, scrapped the decades of
> heritage, built a crappy radio station around the one man
> who could not be corporately-dominated, and who remained at
> the helm for 6 months before departing to the sweetest deal
> in radio history, while that man used your airwaves for the
> longest running free infomercial ever and you let him. Now
> your copycat flagship Pittsburgh outlet (it's even branded
> after Howard's New York home station!) in the forthcoming
> book is about to get its ASS KICKED IN by THE JESUS STATION.
>
>
> How would you like to be the guy riding that desk? Whew!
> Sucks to be you, Keith.
How's this suck: Keith interviewed for the VP/GM opening, and now wears a suit to work evey day. And you know what? His incompetence is just enough to get him promoted. But if he doesn't get it, and the new guy finally figures him out, we'll all be partying.
 
Re: WOW !!! Re: My Opinion of David Lee Roth's show.

> WOW. I was just along for the ride on this thread til I read
> that. It's just so shocking to me. Picture this: you're in
> charge. You took Pittsburgh's reigning heritage-dominant
> CHR, ran it into the ground, scrapped the decades of
> heritage, built a crappy radio station around the one man
> who could not be corporately-dominated, and who remained at
> the helm for 6 months before departing to the sweetest deal
> in radio history, while that man used your airwaves for the
> longest running free infomercial ever and you let him. Now
> your copycat flagship Pittsburgh outlet (it's even branded
> after Howard's New York home station!) in the forthcoming
> book is about to get its ASS KICKED IN by THE JESUS STATION.
>
>
> How would you like to be the guy riding that desk? Whew!
> Sucks to be you, Keith.

Not to defend him, but everything from the format change onward was forced from NY.<P ID="signature">______________
"With God as my witness, I could have sworn turkeys could fly."</P>
 
Re: WOW !!! Re: My Opinion of David Lee Roth's show.

Personally I am glad to see K-ROCK tanking! I think that is what Infinity gets for basically bowing down to Stern, it bit them in the ass!



> > WOW. I was just along for the ride on this thread til I
> read
> > that. It's just so shocking to me. Picture this: you're in
>
> > charge. You took Pittsburgh's reigning heritage-dominant
> > CHR, ran it into the ground, scrapped the decades of
> > heritage, built a crappy radio station around the one man
> > who could not be corporately-dominated, and who remained
> at
> > the helm for 6 months before departing to the sweetest
> deal
> > in radio history, while that man used your airwaves for
> the
> > longest running free infomercial ever and you let him. Now
>
> > your copycat flagship Pittsburgh outlet (it's even branded
>
> > after Howard's New York home station!) in the forthcoming
> > book is about to get its ASS KICKED IN by THE JESUS
> STATION.
> >
> >
> > How would you like to be the guy riding that desk? Whew!
> > Sucks to be you, Keith.
> How's this suck: Keith interviewed for the VP/GM opening,
> and now wears a suit to work evey day. And you know what?
> His incompetence is just enough to get him promoted. But if
> he doesn't get it, and the new guy finally figures him out,
> we'll all be partying.
>
<P ID="signature">______________
-S</P>
 
Re: WOW !!! Re: My Opinion of David Lee Roth's show.

> Personally I am glad to see K-ROCK tanking! I think that is
> what Infinity gets for basically bowing down to Stern, it
> bit them in the ass!
Does anyone who posted in this thread besides me not work for C____ C______?
 
Re: WOW !!! Re: My Opinion of David Lee Roth's show.

> > Does anyone who posted in this thread besides me not work
> for C____ C______?
>

I haven't been in radio for 15 years.

Not everyone who thinks CBS made a mistake here works for the competition. In, probably very few of the posters here do work for CC.<P ID="signature">______________
"With God as my witness, I could have sworn turkeys could fly."</P>
 
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