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Morning News at 4:30 a.m.?

A few weeks ago, KDFW/4 (Fox) in Dallas took the plunge and was the first to do 4:30 news there. Now their Good Day lasts 4 1/2 hours. As of yet, the other 3 major news stations haven't tried to knock the 5am wall down to match Ch.4.
 
I understand in large cities like San jose and Los Angeles where the need for a 4:30 am Newscast is justifyable. I think in the past 10 years we hear about people commuting daily from Landers(Mojave Desert) to LA and from Sacramento to San Jose. What do you think of about Mid-Market Cities and Small market doing 4:30am newscasts?
 
I think the demographics will show that the people who are watching these 4:30am newscasts are people who commute from far distances like a person who lives Sacramento to work in San Jose. Remember the 6:00am newscasts and 5:30 am newscasts were around when the commute from Vallejo to San Francisco was considered outrageous.
 
imhomerjay said:
No one in Philadelphia has tried a 4:30 start save for when the snowflakes come....though if it's a minor enough storm, they'll just run the closings/delays on the screen over the network news and still start at 5.

WPVI (ABC) though bumps the last segment of America This Morning from about 4:55-5.  For a while they used that time as a headlines/weather/traffic summary, similar to the Good Morning America cut-ins, but later switched to the four personalities talking a bit with one another, making jokes, etc (assuming there's not something excpetional going on in the news), and then start up the actual news at 5.
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CBS 3 KYW-TV to start one soon according to one of the anchors on facebook.
 
In Portland, only KATU has morning newscast that starts at 4:30am. KGW and KPTV used to have it, but due to budget cuts they cut out the 430am newscast.
 
e-dawg said:
In Portland, only KATU has morning newscast that starts at 4:30am. KGW and KPTV used to have it, but due to budget cuts they cut out the 430am newscast.
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That's interesting because I thought the only reason stations were bumping up their morning news was to cut costs. Certainly there can't be enough viewers at that time of day to be worthwhile. Or maybe the Farm Report isn't considered news any longer. ???
 
Since the last time we checked on AZ:

*KSAZ added 4:30am news to match KTVK's adding of a 9am hour. That's right, two 5.5-hour morning news shows.
*KPNX just announced plans to match the 4:30am commitment. That leaves 4 out of 5 here with 4:30am news - and KNXV, the new black sheep, once had such a newscast but threw it out.
 
Well, pity on KNXV for spurning a trend. I guess they'll bring a 4:30 AM newscast back once stations across the country start airing 4 AM newscasts...
 
jal41 said:
As of this month...Atlanta will have two 4:30 AM newscasts. Fox O&O WAGA started last month, and Gannett's NBC WXIA started this week with "Wake Up With Chelsey", hosted by the morning meterologist. (Early Today airs at 4 AM). I suspect WSB-TV will follow suit, and WGCL may extend "Better Mornings" as well.
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Yes, Channel 2 Action News(WSB) and CBS Atlanta(WGCL) will start soon as well. CBS Atlanta will also add a 5pm newscast giving them 4pm-6:30pm of local news.
 
Orlando early morning news times

WESH - 4:30-7:00 (simulcast on WKCF from 6:00-7:00 and only on that channel from 7:00 to 9:00)
WKMG - 5:00-7:00
WFTV - 4:55-7:00 (continued on WRDQ from 7:00-9:00)
WOFL - 4:30-10:00
 
I knpw NBC has moved "Early Today" to 4 AM; are ABC
and CBS doing the same thing, or have WSB and WGCL
decided to start pre-empting "America This Morning" and
the "CBS Morning News" respectively?

Aside to James Westerfield: are you related to an actor
by the same name who died in 1971? Same question to
Neil Rattigan: there's an actor by that name as well. Any
connection?
 
bpatrick said:
I know NBC has moved "Early Today" to 4 AM; are ABC and CBS doing the same thing...?
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Are these early 'casts then repeated on the net each half hour through 6:30?
If so, are they regularly (or ever) updated or re-done live due to "breaking news" :eek:?

I won't even ask about their left coast feeds.
 
bpatrick said:
I knpw NBC has moved "Early Today" to 4 AM; are ABC
and CBS doing the same thing, or have WSB and WGCL
decided to start pre-empting "America This Morning" and
the "CBS Morning News" respectively?

Aside to James Westerfield: are you related to an actor
by the same name who died in 1971? Same question to
Neil Rattigan: there's an actor by that name as well. Any
connection?
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CBS Morning News has a 4AM run.
 
bpatrick said:
I knpw NBC has moved "Early Today" to 4 AM; are ABC
and CBS doing the same thing, or have WSB and WGCL
decided to start pre-empting "America This Morning" and
the "CBS Morning News" respectively?

Aside to James Westerfield: are you related to an actor
by the same name who died in 1971? Same question to
Neil Rattigan: there's an actor by that name as well. Any
connection?
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I do not think he is of any relation to me.
 
DToTheJ said:
You knew this was coming: WPIX in New York has announced the launch of a new 4 AM newscast this fall, joining the likes of stations in Las Vegas and Nashville of offering live, local newscasts in that timeslot:
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/455063-WPIX_To_Launch_4_A_M_News.php
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I may have mentioned this before, but don't read too much into the Vegas start times. Anyone who has visited this unique city knows that there are huge numbers of shift workers who might have occasion to watch a 4am news, either at the end of their day or at the beginning! Vegas has its own time schedule. A 4am news in LV does not surprise me in the least.
 
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