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Morning News at 4:30 a.m.?

bostonmediaguy said:
Julius May said:
What's going to happen to the CBS Morning News? Will it air on WPSG?

It will likely air at 4:00 AM.

The live feed of CBS Morning News has been at 4:30am Eastern for some years now, so CBS would have to move that up by 30 minutes. Not an issue in other time zones for a 4am airing, as there are multiple refeeds.
 
Early this month, WAVE (NBC) in Louisville moved their early news start time ahead 30 minutes to 4:30 am, taking the "Early Today" feed at 4:00 am (EDT/EST). I expect at least two of their three news competitors to follow suit.
 
ABC World News used to crank up their political propaganda machine around 3:30 a.m. in Baltimore. Don't know if that's how they still work it or not.
 
Mediafrog+ said:
bostonmediaguy said:
Julius May said:
What's going to happen to the CBS Morning News? Will it air on WPSG?

It will likely air at 4:00 AM.

The live feed of CBS Morning News has been at 4:30am Eastern for some years now, so CBS would have to move that up by 30 minutes. Not an issue in other time zones for a 4am airing, as there are multiple refeeds.

CBS has had a 4AM (eastern) feed for a while now as well.
 
easttxtv said:
The DFW market still has network news at 4:30am, followed by all the locals at 5.

I'm guessing some markets are seeing longer/earlier commutes than ever before, as the possible reason for earlier news.

No. Fox 4 in Dallas has been starting at 4:30 for a couple of months now. CBS 11 started at 4:30 about a month ago. WFAA starts at 4:30 starting Monday morning. NBC 5 is the only one not starting at 4:30.. yet. I can't imagine they'll stay out of that news hole for long.
 
WPVI according to a promo I saw will start a 4:30 AM newscast on Labor Day also.
 
A similar move in Tampa/St. Petersburg is coming soon. NBC affiliate WFLA-TV 8 recently announced that effective September 20 it would drop the syndicated First Business in favour of moving NBC News' Early Today to the 4:00 AM time slot and adding a half hour to NewsChannel 8 Today with anchorman Rod Carter and meterologist Leigh Spann. Traffic reporter Alicia Roberts, who came to WFLA nearly four years ago from Traffic.com's operation in the Philadelphia area, will be leaving the station September 30 when her one year deal ends. Roberts told the St. Petersburg Times that she was leaving to pursue new career opportunities as NewsChannel 8 is scaling down the traffic reporter's job to a part time position. WFLA-TV, owned by Media General, is hoping to hire a second anchor to join Carter and Spann.

Fox-owned WTVT-TV 13 was the first station in the nation's 14th largest market to begin a 4:00 AM newscast last April.

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/media...eave-wfla-ch-8-station-begins-430-am-newscast
 
In Louisville, news departments at WLKY (CBS) and WHAS (ABC) have indeed followed WAVE (NBC)'s lead and moved their local morning news start time to 4:30 am, leading them in with their networks' overnight news 4:00 am blocks.

WDRB (FOX) is standing pat with their 5:00-9:00 am all-local news block.

WAVE, WHAS, and WLKY all join their nets for Today, GMA and The Early Show respectively at 7:00 am (EST/EDT).
 
In the Quad Cities, KWQC-TV briefly started Quad Cities Today at 4:30 A.M. in early 2008 before budget cuts forced the station to cut back on news and staff. Now they're the first station to air HD news with WQAD-TV expected to do the same soon.

Speaking of which, in 1992, the ABC station began Good Morning, Quad Cities which initially started at 6 A.M. Then in April 2002, the local news program expanded to two hours. Now they just very recently started at 4:30 A.M. with QCT following suit just weeks (?) later.

Not only do the rest of the stations not have a newscast starting at aforementioned time, but WHBF-TV doesn't sign on the air 'til 5 A.M.!
 
e-dawg said:
As for early morning newscast. I can understand if New York, Las Vegas, or Chicago can start their news at 3AM. Remember New York, Chicago, and Las Vegas are considered to be a 24/7 or 5 city. New York City slogan. City that never sleeps. In Chicago, people commute far away to work far away as Milwaukee, South Bend, and Rockford IL. In Las Vegas, people party until dawn. Also, casinos and nightclubs are up all day and night. As for L.A. I've only could think of two places that open very late. The Sunset Strip and Hollywood. In San Francisco, the city shuts down at 2AM. Have you ever try to go out to night clubs in San Francisco. They shut the bars/clubs at 2AM and the only place that opens later is the End Up in S.O.M.A.

How About LA
 
Some of your stations are 'way behind ours. Where I
live, WFMY and WRAL (CBS), WGHP (Fox), WTVD (ABC),
and WNCN (NBC) have been starting their morning newscasts
at 4:30 for some time now. WRAL, WTVD, and WNCN go to
their respective networks at 7 AM, but WFMY delays "CBS This
Morning" an hour and keeps going with its "Good Morning Show"
until 8, and WGHP, with no network morning show, goes until 10.

I think that in Atlanta WAGA Fox5 starts its newscast at 4 AM and
goes until 10, and I've heard that its sister station in Detroit, WJBK Fox2,
goes from 4 AM-noon.
 
In Oklahoma City, KWTV and KOCO have started their morning newscasts before 5 a.m. for about two years. KOCO, I believe was the first to add a 4:30 a.m. newscast, in November 2010. In January 2011, KWTV had added a third hour of its morning news at 4 a.m., pushing back the CBS Morning News to 3:30. KFOR is about to follow KWTV's suit on this coming Monday (August 27) by adding a 4 a.m. newscast as well. I haven't heard when KOKH will add a 4 or 4:30 a.m. newscast, though since that station is a Fox affiliate with its own news department, it shouldn't be that hard to add given that Fox has no national early morning newscasts like NBC, ABC and CBS do (a repeat of The People's Court currently airs on KOKH at 4 a.m. on Monday-Fridays).

IMHO, a 4 a.m. local newscast would make more sense on a Fox, CW or MyNetworkTV affiliate since they don't have national newscasts (Fox only has about 50 some-odd stations with an in-house news department, only a few don't carry a morning newscast yet; KRON is the only one of MNTV's two stations with in-house newscasts, that has a morning newscast, and The CW has only about five affiliates, four owned by Tribune (notably KTLA, WPIX and WGN) and one by Televisa/Entravision, that currently have morning newscasts). If an NBC, CBS or ABC station is going to add additional time to its morning newscast, it should be only a half-hour extension to 4:30, so the national early morning newscasts (America This Morning, Early Today and CBS Morning News) air at 4 a.m., which would be a more decent timeslot for those programs compared to 3:30 a.m.
 
Per this thread: http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php?topic=218006.0

time to add 2 more stations to the "4:30a morning show" list. Starting in September, KLTV/7 and KTRE/9 will start airing earlier morning news (as well as starting earlier in their afternoon news also, from 5p-5:30p back to 4p, still ending at 5:30p).

I didn't think the Tyler-Longview market would go the early-news route this soon, if at all. It was amazing to actually see 5:30a starting times for news there before.

All these changes come with a price -- the 4:30a-7a morning news and 4p-5:30p afternoon news slots will be the sole responsibility of KLTV/7 (producing those newscasts for both stations), while KTRE/9 will lose their morning and afternoon staffers and only get to retain those who will still work to staff/produce their 6p and 10p news (the remaining 2 newscasts that KTRE/9 won't have 'help' with). I guess this will leave the competing local newsers (KYTX/19 and KETK/56) no choice but to move back their morning shows also.
 
The Chico/Redding market is about twenty years behind the times: the morning news on KHSL/KNVN and KRCR still starts at 5:30 am, and the evening network news still airs at 6 pm (instead of 5:30, which seems to be the norm in this time zone).
 
bpatrick said:
Don't most Pacific affiliates carry their network newscasts at 6 (Los Angeles excepted;
they all air at 6:30 there)?

5:30 PT seems to be the most prevalent air time on the left coast.

In addition to El Lay, exceptions include:
ABC - SAN 6:30, RNO 6:00
CBS - SAN 6:00, SEA 6:30, PDX 6:30, FAT 6:30, RNO 6:00, BFL 6:30
NBC - SEA 6:00, BFL 6:30, EUG 6:00

Source: zap2it.com for today (08/22/12), searching for LAX/SAN/SFO/SMF/LAS/SEA/PDX/
GEG/FAT/RNO/BFL/SBA/EUG/YKM/MRY
 
Exactly. Most Big 3 affiliates in the Pacific Time Zone air local news at 5, national news at 5:30, then another half-hour or hour of local news at 6. It's been that way in most markets since at least the late '80s or early '90s.
 
AKA said:
Exactly. Most Big 3 affiliates in the Pacific Time Zone air local news at 5, national news at 5:30, then another half-hour or hour of local news at 6. It's been that way in most markets since at least the late '80s or early '90s.

Now as of 2012 all of the San Francisco Network Stations air their news at 4:30am.
 
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