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[doc9464]

Re: Air America is giving US a bad reputation.

> OK, I listened to a Stem Cell clip and found it unfunny,
> stupid, poorly read and offensive. I guess that's why I
> think Morning Sedition is all of the above.
> Air America would do itself a big favor by raising the
> intelligence of its content, not just for Morning Sedition
> but for a lot of its programming. This is exactly why so
> many conservatives have a low opinion of liberals. Air
> America is giving us a bad reputation.
>

I commend you for at least taking a look and it appears that the humor is not your cup of tea. I don't think the humor is offensive and from the reception the characters get when MS goes to various clubs in NY, Id say Kent Jones and Jim Earl have a small following at minimum...but I have seen some of the liberal sites refer to the characters so they catch on a little at least..i disagree

 

[doc9464]

Re: Air America is giving US a bad reputation.

> Air America has not performed well in places like Santa Fe,
> NM and Seattle, Wa. I would suggest that it is because of
> the unusual humor. Agree? Disagree?

Disagree....
>
> I was working in a Western US state with two guys from New
> Jersey once, and socially, we didn't understand each other
> at all. We had entirely different ways of communicating on
> a social level. But I'm not being critical of them, we were
> just from different parts of the country. We eventually
> learned to understand each other.

I think you paint a bit of a broad brush...which is ok...i just dont agree with you. I think if a PD was to take a careful analysis, he might make SOME but not all of your suggestions. Dems/Libs/etc who listen to AAR aren't all easily placed into some catagory of belief..thats why I prefer the left for its diversity..but theres plenty on AAR for any center, center-left, or otherwise.
>
> I would suggest alternative progressive hosts for markets
> like Seattle and small towns in the Western US - e.g.
> Hartmann, Doug Stephan, Jay Diamond, Doug Basham, Chuck
> Harder, Jeff Rense, Whitley Streiber, etc. Yes, folks will
> criticize me for bringing these names up again, but this is
> just my opinion.

No one is going to criticize your choice of hosts, since I've been on this board, i have had a chance to check out a lot of hosts that I wouldn't have probably bumped into for a while..but thanks to your posts and others Ive had a chance to sample a lot of good progressive hosts. You seem strong in your belief that if progressive radio isn't in the "center" then its not appealing...and I have to say once again that that cant be..there has to be voices for everyone ..and thanks to AAR, there seems to be entry by several hosts of all views in the progressive arena. With the exception of Ed Schultz (my own personal reasons), I wish each and everyone of them success. My point is that the more progressives hosts the better..if you don't like them, thats fine but don't shoot them in the leg because you disagree with them.

I heard Doug Basham 3 weeks ago, and I wasn't impresssed one bit...but Im not going to slam him. I was however wowed by Diamond, Hartmann, and Jay Marvin,..hosts i wouldn't have probably known or listened to...but were suggested here by you or others. I know you don't like Randi for example but a lot of libs/dems/etc do (including me). MS has improved over the past year but they aren't the best morning show by a long shot. matter of fact, I posted several agreements that local hosts are a better lead (a point that Tom Betz really made clear for me)..but I hope AAR hears the legitimate critcism people like you make....but don't count them out for the sole reason that they dont match your take on progressive radio. Constructive criticism im sure is welcomed and I know we have argued about this but I think both of our opinions continue to evolve and they should...
>
> And indeed, it's very exciting to see a "trial" market for
> this sort of idea: KRXA AM 540 in Monterey Bay, CA (10kW/1kW
> DA, market #77, licensed to Carmel Valley) with a lineup of
> Stephanie Miller, Hartmann, Ed Schultz, Peter B Collins,
> Lionel, Doug Basham. We'll see how they perform against the
> Air America talker also in the market.

This is a very good point. I remember hoping that when OA pointed out the akron "test" that the two stations there would help provide some insight on several hosts...but the situation wasn't good...but this situation in CA will teach us all a LOT about who's making impact in the new Liberal/Progressive radio format.
>
> In the AM 1090 on-line polls (KPTK AM 1090 Seattle 50kW
> DA2), Lionel and Stephanie Miller are getting VERY POOR
> reviews...whereas Hartmann is over 90% POSITIVE. I think
> it's really interesting that this station has conducted
> these polls...it's an innovative idea to get the public
> directly involved in voting on-line for Progressive Talk,
> which is an unprecedented format w/ an uncertain future that
> could benefit from polls and 1-800 comment lines.

When you posted this earlier, both of us posted thoughts on this. I wish the station had left up the other hosts criticisms. Speaking of Randi Rhodes, she didn't get 90% but she got 65%. Thats very favorable, don't you agree. (shameless plug here Al took a beating about taking calls which seems to be a problem for a lot of people. I wish more stations would do it. In Boston for example, Stephanie Miller is the favorite. It gets back to how they hold their listeners, not their ideology. At least, thats my opinion.

AAR is just one choice in a growing number of choices. But, I think the best part now is that we have a choice instead of the right wing conservative stuff...

>
> > OK, I listened to a Stem Cell clip and found it unfunny,
> > stupid, poorly read and offensive. I guess that's why I
> > think Morning Sedition is all of the above.
> > Air America would do itself a big favor by raising the
> > intelligence of its content, not just for Morning Sedition
>
> > but for a lot of its programming. This is exactly why so
> > many conservatives have a low opinion of liberals. Air
> > America is giving us a bad reputation.
> >
>

 

[Tom_]

Re: Air America is giving US a bad reputation.

> OK, I listened to a Stem Cell clip and found it unfunny,
> stupid, poorly read and offensive. I guess that's why I
> think Morning Sedition is all of the above.
> Air America would do itself a big favor by raising the
> intelligence of its content, not just for Morning Sedition
> but for a lot of its programming. This is exactly why so
> many conservatives have a low opinion of liberals. Air
> America is giving us a bad reputation.

Air America has not performed well in places like Santa Fe, NM and Seattle, Wa. I would suggest that it is because of the unusual humor. Agree? Disagree?

I was working in a Western US state with two guys from New Jersey once, and socially, we didn't understand each other at all. We had entirely different ways of communicating on a social level. But I'm not being critical of them, we were just from different parts of the country. We eventually learned to understand each other.

I would suggest alternative progressive hosts for markets like Seattle and small towns in the Western US - e.g. Hartmann, Doug Stephan, Jay Diamond, Doug Basham, Chuck Harder, Jeff Rense, Whitley Streiber, etc. Yes, folks will criticize me for bringing these names up again, but this is just my opinion.

And indeed, it's very exciting to see a "trial" market for this sort of idea: KRXA AM 540 in Monterey Bay, CA (10kW/1kW DA, market #77, licensed to Carmel Valley) with a lineup of Stephanie Miller, Hartmann, Ed Schultz, Peter B Collins, Lionel, Doug Basham. We'll see how they perform against the Air America talker also in the market.

In the AM 1090 on-line polls (KPTK AM 1090 Seattle 50kW DA2), Lionel and Stephanie Miller are getting VERY POOR reviews...whereas Hartmann is over 90% POSITIVE. I think it's really interesting that this station has conducted these polls...it's an innovative idea to get the public directly involved in voting on-line for Progressive Talk, which is an unprecedented format w/ an uncertain future that could benefit from polls and 1-800 comment lines.

 

[doc9464]

Re: Is this "deliciously acerbic"?

> It just sounds like you don't have any intelligent
> alternatives to the trash on Air America, so you're not very
> particular.

Earlier I was just glad you tried to listen to one sample, but to base your entire belief of what is aired on AAR from that one sample, well thats short-sighted. Listen to other bits posted on the web site. Kent Jones does a funny news cast for Rachel Maddow and there are plenty of samples.

Now you wouldn't be looking for the most controversial humor just so you can take shots at AAR are you? (just asking...)
>

 

[Tom_]

Reply to doc9464

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>>>>>>>>>You seem strong
> in your belief that if progressive radio isn't in the
> "center" then its not appealing...and I have to say once
> again that that cant be..there has to be voices for everyone
> ..and thanks to AAR, there seems to be entry by several
> hosts of all views in the progressive arena.

For every liberal station I think there should be a wide spectrum of hosts including hosts close to the center in order to get conservative listeners to change the dial from conservative to liberal stations...I think Malloy, Talliaferro, and others very far to the left are OK...My points earlier were that Air America stations should introduce hosts closer to the center in an effort to get conservative listeners and increase ratings....but again, it is entertainment value as well...Conservatives won't listen to Malloy, Flanders, or the two Marks.

> I heard Doug Basham 3 weeks ago, and I wasn't impresssed one
> bit...but Im not going to slam him.

Maybe that's because we are on different coasts????...the humor element here? Doug has received multiple shares 25-54/35-64 in his time slot in his home market of Las Vegas on KDWN.

<<<<<I was however wowed by
> Diamond, Hartmann, and Jay Marvin,..hosts i wouldn't have
> probably known or listened to...but were suggested here by
> you or others.

Actually, many others have mentioned other hosts, esp. Thom Hartmann, Bill Press, Doug Stephan, and Jay Diamond on the Boston board. I mention them frequently because I do not think that Air America + Stephanie Miller/Lionel will succeed in the Rockies and the Pacific N.W. These markets need local hosts or some of the aforementioned liberal hosts. But who knows...we'll see...

<<<<> I know you don't like Randi for example but a
> lot of libs/dems/etc do (including me).

Randi's humor, skits, comedy, don't work for a lot of people born and raised in Seattle and the inland Northwest. Likewise for the two Marks, Stephanie Miller, and Al Franken. Doug Basham, Thom Hartmann, and Mike D Malloy are all closer to someone we can appreciate in Seattle and the inland Northwest. If these Air America hosts work for back east, more power to them and their careers.

><This is a very good point. I remember hoping that when OA
<pointed out the akron "test" that the two stations there
< would help provide some insight on several hosts...but the
< situation wasn't good...but this situation in CA will teach
< us all a LOT about who's making impact in the new
< Liberal/Progressive radio format.

...this if 4 KRXA AM 540 Carmel Valley CA. It is market 77, about 560,000 in the survey area.

> > In the AM 1090 on-line polls (KPTK AM 1090 Seattle 50kW
> > DA2), Lionel and Stephanie Miller are getting VERY POOR
> > reviews...whereas Hartmann is over 90% POSITIVE. I think
>
When you posted this earlier, both of us posted thoughts on
> this. I wish the station had left up the other hosts
> criticisms. Speaking of Randi Rhodes, she didn't get 90% but
> she got 65%. Thats very favorable, don't you agree.
> (shameless plug here Al took a beating about taking calls
> which seems to be a problem for a lot of people. I wish more
> stations would do it. In Boston for example, Stephanie
> Miller is the favorite.

We'll see how many people vote on AM 1090 and call in, but last time I checked it was about 50+/50- for Stephanie Miller. So if in Boston Miller is the favorite, then there is clearly a difference in how the listeners in two areas appreciate the humor in Boston vs. Seattle/Tacoma.

<>It gets back to how they hold their
<> listeners, not their ideology. At least, thats my opinion.

Yes it's entertainment value...time spent listening, etc. etc.

let's hope this re-posts...!

Why there are italic marks I have no idea.LOL

Cab? Do you know?

< <<<<<<<<< ><P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by this Tom: on 08/08/05 08:37 AM.</FONT></P>

 

[Gnarlodious]

Re: Air America is giving US a bad reputation.

> In the AM 1090 on-line polls (KPTK AM 1090 Seattle
> 50kW DA2), Lionel and Stephanie Miller are getting
> VERY POOR reviews...whereas Hartmann is over 90% POSITIVE.
Don't take that poll too seriously.
It got a little help from the Thom Hartmann Chatroom

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[Gnarlodious]

Re: Is this "deliciously acerbic"?

> Earlier I was just glad you tried to listen to one sample,
> but to base your entire belief of what is aired on AAR from
> that one sample, well thats short-sighted. Listen to other
> bits posted on the web site. Kent Jones does a funny news
> cast for Rachel Maddow and there are plenty of samples.
>
> Now you wouldn't be looking for the most controversial humor
> just so you can take shots at AAR are you? (just asking...)

I swear I went to that site and picked one clip and listened. I admit it's a small sample, but it supports my general impression of Air America, which I have listened to plenty. Still do. I like Randi Rhodes and Mike Malloy even though my limit is about 15 minutes. I suspect there are plenty of others like me, which is why I end up being a voice for them.<P ID="signature">______________
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[doc9464]

doc9464 doesn't disagree with you that much

Tom, i had a hope too at one time where we could "convert" conservative listeners. I do not believe that as much. No matter how hard liberal hosts "reach out", many conservative listeners will not take the time to even listen to one minute. Many will listen to the distortion and spin that AAR, Democracy Radio, and the independant liberal hosts are just 3-4 hours of "hate filled radio". Using Al Franken as an example, Al has done just about everything he can to "reach out" to conservative listeners including a simulcast (that was an very original idea) with G. Gordon Liddy where listeners on both shows could access the host on the other side, ask questions, and comment.

The only hope for those who are not liberals are those who listen to more than just one news source. Informed people certainly look to multiple sources for their news or understanding on an article. Basically, as far as I can see for the moment, the talk radio thats out there right now is "for the base" or is "preaching to the choir". This is my take on the current situation in talk radio. There's probably a high amount of cross over for many hosts.

I don't disagree with your premise of how to program liberal radio, I just don't feel that your belief that ONLY centrist hosts can mean success for stations, thats all. In the mean time, I will continue to enjoy each of the growning amount of liberal hosts popping up on a regular basis. Matter of fact, I am trying to get a take on Bill Press but haven't found a way to listen to him yet.

Going back to my favorite examples of Randi and Stephanie Miller, both them get quite a few conservative callers..some to argue a point and some to just make fun...but they do get quite a few listeners from the right. Ill bet this is true of a lot of hosts. When I listened to Jay Marvin fill in for Jerry Springer, who is a real centrist, he got a few conservative callers as well. Jay Marvin is to the left of springer - a lot actually - but he still got conservative callers. Who knows how many conservatives are "lurking" listeners? I think you know that conservative callers screen very very carefully to insure that the "other viewpoint" is not heard. There are some hosts that don't screen quite as tight on liberals (Jay Severin is my best example, Ive argued with him at least twice on the phone and was not allowed to stay on long....but at least I made it on)

I think you can't appeal to a narrow viewpoint...this is kind of the "swing state philosophy" that the left as of late has seemed to adopt. It makes little sense to try to appeal to those who may never move in our direction. It does make sense to cover all issues, all viewpoints, and offer entertainment to the other 57 million people who voted for Kerry, and the other 100 million who have no link to the big two parties. The idea is to offer something for everyone. We need liberals, moderates, centrists, and independants to listen....thats the key to capturing listeners.

Last thought, conservatives had 20 years of being alone on the spectrum. This was finally been realized by the left. Now, the challenge is getting up an alternative voice that can be heard by many. Thats the real purpose of progressive/liberal radio. Maybe some people will hear some of it....maybe they won't but the alternative has to be available one way or the other. I think thats the best part of the resurgence of liberal radio. AAR leads the way but Democracy Radio is also working hard to build a "stable" of good progressive/liberal hosts....for example Nancy Skinner (who I haven't heard yet but i look forward to hearing her soon). I don't think a listener (in general) sizes up the ideology of a host before deciding to listen. They are listening for information or entertainment. The hosts that succeed in either one will get the listeners they need to keep going. Thats the bottom line to me at least.

> For every liberal station I think there should be a wide
> spectrum of hosts including hosts close to the center in
> order to get conservative listeners to change the dial from
> conservative to liberal stations...I think Malloy,
> Talliaferro, and others very far to the left are OK...My
> points earlier were that Air America stations should
> introduce hosts closer to the center in an effort to get
> conservative listeners and increase ratings....but again, it
> is entertainment value as well...Conservatives won't listen
> to Malloy, Flanders, or the two Marks.

 

[tbetz]

Re: Bill Press in Missoula

> The URL for the KKNS 105.9 FM Web site is
> http://www.kns1059.com/ .

Thanks.

I look forward to seeing something show up there.

At the moment, (unless you are using Internet Explorer) it's all broken graphics indicators.

All their URLs use backslashes instead of forward slashes!<P ID="signature">______________
also known as tombetz.</P>

 

[dampier]

Re: Reply to doc9464

> My points earlier were that Air America stations should
> introduce hosts closer to the center in an effort to get
> conservative listeners and increase ratings....but again, it
> is entertainment value as well...Conservatives won't listen
> to Malloy, Flanders, or the two Marks.

Moderate talk show hosts generally draw few listeners. Lionel often avoids the liberal label by frequently doing social issues topics which aren't traditional liberal topics.

Conservatives are unlikely to listen to any Air America Radio outlet (or at least admit it.) Considering the success of conservative talk radio has been to stay to the right (often far right) side of issues to appeal to the base, liberal talk radio should be doing exactly the same thing. Many "moderates" turn out to be uninterested in political talk radio to the degree the two bases are.

As to online radio polls, ignore them. They are very easily skewed by voting campaigns promoted by talent, blogs, etc. The Majority Report frequently enrages Fox by telling listeners to go vote in their Issue of the Day poll, and they often overwhelm Fox's own viewer votes.

The only thing that counts is ratings.

 

[doc9464]

Re: Is this "deliciously acerbic"?

> I swear I went to that site and picked one clip and
> listened. I admit it's a small sample, but it supports my
> general impression of Air America, which I have listened to
> plenty. Still do. I like Randi Rhodes and Mike Malloy even
> though my limit is about 15 minutes. I suspect there are
> plenty of others like me, which is why I end up being a
> voice for them.

Fair enough....at least you took a listen....thats more than a lot of people do. I hope your 15 minutes expands further.....maybe try Laura Flanders or Ring of Fire. Thats another good show..from Robert Kennedy and Mike Papintonio. 2 hours a day on Saturdays and repeated on Sundays.

 

[zaxxons1]

Re: Air America is giving US a bad reputation.

>
> I would suggest alternative progressive hosts for markets
> like Seattle and small towns in the Western US - e.g.
> Hartmann, Doug Stephan, Jay Diamond, Doug Basham, Chuck
> Harder, Jeff Rense, Whitley Streiber, etc. Yes, folks will
> criticize me for bringing these names up again, but this is
> just my opinion.
>

Not surprisingly, I am criticizing you for bringing up Chuck Harder's name once again. Yes, his "For The People" show is broadcast daily on TalkStar Radio 2 PM to 5 PM weekdays, but have you listened to his programs closely?
Why doesn't he take calls from listeners anymore?
Why hasn't he taken such calls in months?
Why hasn't his main Web site (www.chuckharder.com/www.forthepeople.org) been updated in over half a year?
Why hasn't he mentioned his book project in the last several weeks?
Why do most of his shows sound like reruns of previous programs?
Why doesn't Chuck Harder issue a press release, or at least discuss a news topic of current interest? OK, it does not have to be Natalie Holloway or Jennifer Wilbanks or John Mason or whatever, but why no mention of real news stories such as the recent shuttle mission or the London bombings?
Just what is up with Chuck Harder? Inquiring minds, pro and con, want to know.

 

[zaxxons1]

Re: Air America is giving US a bad reputation.

> Not surprisingly, I am criticizing you for bringing up Chuck
> Harder's name once again.

Note: The following contains material that some (perhaps most) Chuck Harder supporters may find offensive. Reader discretion is advised.

I first heard Chuck Harder on September 29, 1991, on WMAZ AM 940 in Macon, Georgia. The first guest I can recall was one Mark Perez, editor of Home Power magazine.
The next two on-air guests I remember were notorious anti-Semites Eustace Mullins (author of the viciously anti-Jewish tome "The Biological Jew" - 1968) and Christian Identity paramilitary goon Lt. Col. James "Bo" Gritz, who once claimed that Jews were a "special interest group" bent on "controlling" the U.S.
I wrote a complaint letter to Harder in later November 1991, then, four months later, I published a letter to the editor of the Macon Telegraph where I branded Harder a "hatemonger."
Strong language? I don't think so. For it was Chuck Harder who, in early 1995, told left-wing journalist Marc Cooper of the problem of "Jewish greed" and a Wall Street controlled by "Greenbergs and Sheinbergs" (The Nation, April 10, 1995, page 491).
No doubt about it: CHUCK HARDER IS AN ANTI-SEMITE.
The irony is, "progressives" like this Tom who support Chuck Harder today are the direct lineage of the "progressives" who were the vanguard against the traditional Nazi anti-Semitism in the 1930's and 1940's. Where are these morally correct, upright, decent "progressives" today? In the GOP, the Bush Administration, and the mainstream conservative movement, it seems.
Let me be brutally honest: I am damn sick and tired of Chuck Harder. I am damn sick and tired of his anti-Bush crap. I am damn sick and tired of his economic Armageddon pabulum. I am damn sick and tired of his childish, churlish, piquant, idiotic "I've Got Mine" claptrap. I am damn sick and tired of his horrible writing. I am damn sick and tired of his anti-American, anti-free trade, anti-wealth, anti-everything imbecility.
Most of all, I am damn sick and tired of his conspiracy theories, which, to me, are nothing more than thinly-veiled Jew-baiting.
I apologize for being so blunt here. I do not mean to offend, but I feel very, very strongly about this issue. Please understand. Being Jewish, I feel the burden of 4,000 years of persecution, hatred, and paranoia - and much, much worse.
And when a nationally syndicated radio talk show host like Chuck Harder dabbles in this evil, irrational behavior (as I perceive it), naturally, I get very upset.
Any human being in my position would.
Chuck Harder talks about his background in consumer activism. If he wants to stay on the radio, why doesn't he ditch the fringe-politics "mishigoss" (nonsense) and go back to what served him - and his audience - well?
Shalom!

 

[Tom_]

Re: I agree, Anti-Semetism in Progressive Talk Radio: A Growing Problem

It's summer, and I return after two weeks to this forum.
I did not know the info that you claim about Chuck Harder. May I respond to two of yr comments. If you have e-mail notification perhaps you will receive that I responded since I think this is on about page 3.


> The irony is, "progressives" like this Tom who support Chuck
> Harder today are the direct lineage of the "progressives"
> who were the vanguard against the traditional Nazi
> anti-Semitism in the 1930's and 1940's. Where are these
> morally correct, upright, decent "progressives" today?

First I do not financially support For the People Network from Chuck Harder. I am not a member. I am not involved in syndicating his show.

Second, I absolutely agree with you that there are progressive or progressive-leaning talk hosts including some Air America hosts who are anti-Semetic and/or anti-Christian. I have discussed this unfortunate situation several times on this board. That is one reason for low ratings on Air America.
I have seen terribly anti-Semetic comments on liberal talk *HOST* message boards that are not deleted by the moderators and it is appalling. You would think that the *HOSTS* would want to maintain their credibility in the industry and delete anti-Israel/anti-Christian/anti-Jewish posts from their own message boards. I go in sometimes and try to provide counterarguments to anti-Semetic posters and am always shouted down.


And here you have a very good point:

> Chuck Harder talks about his background in consumer
> activism. If he wants to stay on the radio, why doesn't he
> ditch the fringe-politics "mishigoss" (nonsense) and go back
> to what served him - and his audience - well?

Absolutely. He should concentrate on the consumer issues, alt. health, and alternative energy issues drop the interviews with people like Lorrainne Day MD. I'd say the same thing about the Jeff Rense program (GCN).
Thanks for letting me know your thoughts...I appreciate this since a lot of us on these forums (myself included) follow demographic trends in progressive political talk based on religious, cultural, moral, and related issues. -T



> I first heard Chuck Harder on September 29, 1991, on WMAZ AM
> 940 in Macon, Georgia. The first guest I can recall was one
> Mark Perez, editor of Home Power magazine.
> The next two on-air guests I remember were notorious
> anti-Semites Eustace Mullins (author of the viciously
> anti-Jewish tome "The Biological Jew" - 1968) and Christian
> Identity paramilitary goon Lt. Col. James "Bo" Gritz, who
> once claimed that Jews were a "special interest group" bent
> on "controlling" the U.S.
> I wrote a complaint letter to Harder in later November 1991,
> then, four months later, I published a letter to the editor
> of the Macon Telegraph where I branded Harder a
> "hatemonger."
> Strong language? I don't think so. For it was Chuck Harder
> who, in early 1995, told left-wing journalist Marc Cooper of
> the problem of "Jewish greed" and a Wall Street controlled
> by "Greenbergs and Sheinbergs" (The Nation, April 10, 1995,
> page 491).
> No doubt about it: CHUCK HARDER IS AN ANTI-SEMITE.
> The irony is, "progressives" like this Tom who support Chuck
> Harder today are the direct lineage of the "progressives"
> who were the vanguard against the traditional Nazi
> anti-Semitism in the 1930's and 1940's. Where are these
> morally correct, upright, decent "progressives" today? In
> the GOP, the Bush Administration, and the mainstream
> conservative movement, it seems.
> Let me be brutally honest: I am damn sick and tired of Chuck
> Harder. I am damn sick and tired of his anti-Bush crap. I am
> damn sick and tired of his economic Armageddon pabulum. I am
> damn sick and tired of his childish, churlish, piquant,
> idiotic "I've Got Mine" claptrap. I am damn sick and tired
> of his horrible writing. I am damn sick and tired of his
> anti-American, anti-free trade, anti-wealth, anti-everything
> imbecility.
> Most of all, I am damn sick and tired of his conspiracy
> theories, which, to me, are nothing more than thinly-veiled
> Jew-baiting.
> I apologize for being so blunt here. I do not mean to
> offend, but I feel very, very strongly about this issue.
> Please understand. Being Jewish, I feel the burden of 4,000
> years of persecution, hatred, and paranoia - and much, much
> worse.
> And when a nationally syndicated radio talk show host like
> Chuck Harder dabbles in this evil, irrational behavior (as I
> perceive it), naturally, I get very upset.
> Any human being in my position would.
> Chuck Harder talks about his background in consumer
> activism. If he wants to stay on the radio, why doesn't he
> ditch the fringe-politics "mishigoss" (nonsense) and go back
> to what served him - and his audience - well?
> Shalom!
> <P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by this Tom: on 08/19/05 09:03 AM.</FONT></P>

 

[zaxxons1]

Re: I agree, Anti-Semetism in Progressive Talk Radio: A Growing Problem

>
> First I do not financially support For the People Network
> from Chuck Harder. I am not a member. I am not involved in
> syndicating his show.
>
> Second, I absolutely agree with you that there are
> progressive or progressive-leaning talk hosts including some
> Air America hosts who are anti-Semetic and/or
> anti-Christian. I have discussed this unfortunate situation
> several times on this board. That is one reason for low
> ratings on Air America.
>

Thanks for the thoughtful remarks ... I never meant to criticize you, only Chuck Harder.
As I understand it, Chuck Harder is/was an adherent to the violent, virulent, anti-Semitic cult called Christian Identity, rated by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) as a group with a "high" (their quote) potential for criminal activity (I may be wrong about here, but I am sufficiently confident that I would publish it in a post like this).
I'm listening to Chuck Harder right now, and he has another Identity-style guest, Phillip Hoag, on; Hoag is following in the tradition of anti-Semites who have gotten behind Chuck's mikes in the past (Eustace Mullins, Bo Gritz, George Eaton), talking about going back to the Constitution (the white folks' Constitution, naturally).
Summing it all up, I do not think Chuck Harder is a man of good moral integrity. I really do believe he is a bigot, "white trash," if you want to get blunt about it. Remember, he worked on George Wallace's 1968 Presidential campaign, just like another young, enterprising political activist named ... David Duke.
Speaking of David Duke, isn't it interesting that Chuck Harder compares himself to the "former" (BLEEP) grand wizard; in other words, he tells his radio audience that's it's basically a choice between him and David Duke, and that the "elites" are setting the stage for a "strongman" (presumably Duke) to seize power in the U.S. due to the giant economic conspiracy against the average (white) working American.
You know, if I picked up a newspaper tomorrow morning and read about an FBI raid on Chuck Harder's house, and the discovery of a huge cache of Klan paraphernalia in his basement (assuming he has one), it wouldn't surprise me one bit.
I can't recall one negative thing Chuck Harder has said about the Ku Klux Klan, but I can think of a gajillion terrible things he's said about President Bush.
Something to think about ...
Shalom!

 

[Tom_]

Any comments on Genesis Networks, Rense, Meria Heller, Lorrainne Day, and Henry Makow???

Thanks for the info. I have not researched any of Chuck's guests' affiliations or associations other than looking at some of his alternative energy guest web sites.

I vividly recall offensive comments from Tom Valentine on the SUN radio network on KVI 570 Seattle in the early '90's discussing Ruby Ridge/Weaver and questioning the authenticity of the Houlocaust.

What you say here re: Harder is disturbing and unfortunately indicative of increasing trends in the industry right now...with far, far, far right sometimes anti-Israel/Isolationaist hosts AND guests...such as various hosts and guests on the Genesis Communications Network, such as Jeff Rense, Dr. Lorraine Day, Henry Makow.

Tonight Alan Colmes on FOX NEWS LIVE WITH ALAN COLMES addressed this...i.e. there are anti-war people on the far, far, right, and anti-war people on the Democratic party left.

If you are getting e-mail notification of these posts now on pg. #4 or #5, do you have any comments on the Jeff Rense show or perhaps some hosts on the Genesis network???

U wrote:

> Thanks for the thoughtful remarks ... I never meant to
> criticize you, only Chuck Harder.
> As I understand it, Chuck Harder is/was an adherent to the
> violent, virulent, anti-Semitic cult called Christian
> Identity, rated by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) as a
> group with a "high" (their quote) potential for criminal
> activity (I may be wrong about here, but I am sufficiently
> confident that I would publish it in a post like this).
> I'm listening to Chuck Harder right now, and he has another
> Identity-style guest, Phillip Hoag, on; Hoag is following in
> the tradition of anti-Semites who have gotten behind Chuck's
> mikes in the past (Eustace Mullins, Bo Gritz, George Eaton),
> talking about going back to the Constitution (the white
> folks' Constitution, naturally).
> Summing it all up, I do not think Chuck Harder is a man of
> good moral integrity. I really do believe he is a bigot,
> "white trash," if you want to get blunt about it. Remember,
> he worked on George Wallace's 1968 Presidential campaign,
> just like another young, enterprising political activist
> named ... David Duke.
> Speaking of David Duke, isn't it interesting that Chuck
> Harder compares himself to the "former" (BLEEP) grand
> wizard; in other words, he tells his radio audience that's
> it's basically a choice between him and David Duke, and that
> the "elites" are setting the stage for a "strongman"
> (presumably Duke) to seize power in the U.S. due to the
> giant economic conspiracy against the average (white)
> working American.
> You know, if I picked up a newspaper tomorrow morning and
> read about an FBI raid on Chuck Harder's house, and the
> discovery of a huge cache of Klan paraphernalia in his
> basement (assuming he has one), it wouldn't surprise me one
> bit.
> I can't recall one negative thing Chuck Harder has said
> about the Ku Klux Klan, but I can think of a gajillion
> terrible things he's said about President Bush.
> Something to think about ...
> Shalom!
>