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Morton Downey Jr. Affiliates - List Them Here

I'll verify, from my own Swiss Cheese Memory, the earlier listing that Morton Downey Jr. was on late nights on WUAB/43 here in Cleveland.

And it was hinted earlier, but Morton was once a midday radio talk show host on KFBK in Sacramento, until he was fired for comments about a Chinese-American city council member.

He was replaced as a host at KFBK in 1984 by, yes, Rush Limbaugh.
 
I used to enjoy watching Mort.Now if he was alive today.I can picture him today telling off all the idiots that screwed up this country including wall street.
 
I don't know if Morton Downey's show aired in stations in Missouri, like St. Louis or KC for instance. I'd have to check my schedules from 1988-89 to find out.
 
OhioMediaWatch said:
If his Wikipedia article is correct, MD was launching into national TV syndication (from WWOR/9 in NYC/NJ) right about the time that Sacramento radio replacement, Rush Limbaugh, was launching his national radio show.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morton_Downey,_Jr.
...Mort was actually first to roll out nationally, but only by a few months. I remember he left WMAQ Chicago for WWOR in mid-'87, and I first heard Limbaugh on a local Wisconsin station in '88...
 
If I remember correctly in Los Angeles, he was on KABC Channel 7, after Nightline. He may have moved to another station in town (one of the independents) within a year of his national debut. When he came back to syndication several years later, Downey had his show on KDOC, paired with another loudmouth conservative--Wally George. Besides the weekend one-hour Hot Seat show, George would also a weeknight edition featuring clips from past shows and a daily commentary.
 
Ultimajock said:
...Mort was actually first to roll out nationally, but only by a few months. I remember he left WMAQ Chicago for WWOR in mid-'87, and I first heard Limbaugh on a local Wisconsin station in '88...

It's pretty close.

Mort was on WWOR first "locally" in 1987 - I remember watching him there, because the cable superstation had pretty good low channel cable placement here at the time.

I think he launched locally on WUAB within a few months of Rush's national syndication effort, and Rush was first heard locally (IIRC) on the old WERE/1300, a station that doesn't really get south of the Ohio Turnpike with a good signal. Rush started nationally, IIRC again, in June 1988, and Mort would have been just before that.

It wasn't until a couple of years (?) later, when Rush would show up on what's now Clear Channel talk WTAM/1100, which is a regional blowtorch.

Mort, meanwhile, flamed out pretty rapidly. I don't recall his show making it far into 1989, either on WWOR or in syndication.
 
I also totally forgot that Mort was a local host on that very same WTAM in the mid-1990s, for roughly a cup of coffee. IIRC, it was his very last local talk radio gig, amid all the noise about Howard Stern talking about him (he sued Howard, IIRC, then resigned from WTAM).

Mort was replaced on WTAM by Rick Gilmour, who started his talk radio career, after a college radio stint, on WERE. Rick lasted on WTAM through 2004, most recently heard on weekend evenings. Rick passed away last year.

Mort was not on WTAM for very long. The station went through a LOT of hosts in the 1990s.

I still think it's funny how Mort and Rush are linked, through the latter directly replacing the former in Sacramento.
 
mleach said:

Mort also had an album titled "Morton Downey, Jr. Sings" which was inspired by the popularity of his TV show - indeed, one of the tracks is, "Zip It!" And there was also a board game based on the show: "Loudmouth."

And to someone who commented whether or not this was a "posthumous boycott" - funny, but no. Next month will mark the tenth anniversary of his death.

Wow, a few stations actually showed it in the morning? That surprises me.
 
WZDX, channel 54 (FOX) Huntsville, Alabama
WLMT, channel 30 (then FOX affiliate) Memphis, Tennessee

Those are the only two I am aware of.

Downey, to me, was basically a fad at the time, a sensation akin to the first-ever stage brawl in talk show history that occurred on Geraldo Rivera's syndie show around that time frame. I was in college during Downey's short run, but I sensed that it was mostly about entertainment (which it was), and not politics. Television had a much higher wall of separation between news and entertainment a quarter of a century ago--nobody in Washington, for example, took him seriously, I am sure.

However, you will notice that Downey and Limbaugh arose not long after the FCC repealed the long-standing fairness doctrine in 1987--a requirement that local broadcasters (not necessarily networks) grant those opposed to an opinion expressed on a program equal time to rebut such views. Things like that, of course, caused networks and broadcasters to generally shy away from controversial stands of all kinds--note how innocuous most local TV "editorials" were, mostly bromides about civic responsibility and so on. (The likes of Joe Pyne were disregarded, I think, because his show tended to air in late-night slots on weekends when few viewers were watching--some managers might have regarded him as counting toward public-service requirements even).

Point being, with the Fairness Doctrine out of the way and with cable arising steadily as an alternative to traditional TV, stations felt both emboldened and pressured to think outside the box, so to speak, concerning boring, staid news shows and worn-out staples like sitcoms. Downey helped break ground in that respect, marking the beginnings of this hybrid form which has grown to the point of dominating today. The reason the talkers run the roost on the cable news channels now is that their main audience is, for the most part, under 50 in age, and was brought up largely on a diet of rock music, MTV, cynicism about government, and disillusionment over an indulgent youth (e.g., drugs, sex)--things their parents, shaped instead by the Depression and the Second World War, had no experience with. Put all that together, and you can understand the appeal of the likes of O'Reilly, Hannity, Beck, et al. more easily. Downey was a little bit too early for that, but he and his packagers knew that it was all coming together back in 1988.
 
Mike Stroud said:
Downey, to me, was basically a fad at the time, a sensation akin to the first-ever stage brawl in talk show history that occurred on Geraldo Rivera's syndie show around that time frame.
...so you don't think Muhammad Ali vs. Joe Frazier during a pre-Manila interview with Howard Cosell on ABC's Wide World of Sports in 1974 qualifies as a "stage brawl"?...

The reason the talkers run the roost on the cable news channels now is that their main audience is, for the most part, under 50 in age, and was brought up largely on a diet of rock music, MTV, cynicism about government, and disillusionment over an indulgent youth (e.g., drugs, sex)--things their parents, shaped instead by the Depression and the Second World War, had no experience with. Put all that together, and you can understand the appeal of the likes of O'Reilly, Hannity, Beck, et al. more easily.
...that's a crock. The core audience of O'Reilly/Hannity/Beck is 65-to-Death, and the only reason any of them is on cable television -- generating a pitiful less-than-1.5% of the potential American audience -- is that Rupert Murdoch wants a 24/7 Republican Party propaganda dispenser on cable TV. Get facts before making such claims again...
 
Mike Stroud said:
However, you will notice that Downey and Limbaugh arose not long after the FCC repealed the long-standing fairness doctrine in 1987--a requirement that local broadcasters (not necessarily networks) grant those opposed to an opinion expressed on a program equal time to rebut such views.
...you even betray ignorance about the Fairness Doctrine. The FCC did not repeal it, President Reagan issued an Executive Order eliminating its enforcement in exchange for the NAB Code being simultaneously scrapped by the National Association of Broadcasters. And the Fairness Doctrine indeed applied to networks -- in 1960, as a result of Jack Paar interviewing both John Kennedy and Richard Nixon on The Jack Paar Tonight Show (as it was being called by then), Paar was forced to schedule a farcical Presidential candidate, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lar_Daly Lar Daly, who proceeded to make such a fool of himself that his appearance was brought up to Paar four years later by Barry Goldwater on The Jack Paar Program...
 
Responses to Ultimajock:

I am not sure that you know anything more about the targeted demographics of the cable talk shows than I do; the only thing I admit to is drawing a plausible scenario. When I make the claim, I am in fact basing it on many studies I have read about rancor and incivility in public life, including the media. Books like Benjamin Barber's Consumed and Susan Jacoby's The Age of American Unreason have found that programs like these thrive in an atmosphere where traditional "adult" values of self-discipline, modesty, and reason are disparaged, and this has been the case increasingly in America since the 1960s. Ironically enough, it seems conservatives are harvesting the seed sown in large measure by the political (or, more to the point, cultural) Left of the 1960s and 1970s. Most people whose consciousness were shaped in this period are under the age of 50.

While no one of the talk shows can, as you claim, probably garner more than two percent of the American viewing public, in today's highly fragmented media environment, that isn't necessarily bad for the cable networks (some of whom are operated by traditional broadcasters such as NBC), who have long operated on the principle of niche programming. Simply put, it is not, as you put it, "a crock" to understand that the most popular of these talkers can bring their channels, relatively speaking, quite a bit of advertising--even if this is not the case, the cable channels are, as I said, usually owned by large corporations, who seek to please as many segments of the American viewing public as possible. Point being, it's not really a big deal to them to have such a small audience--they don't expect a large one to start with.

Granted, I did not accurately portray the means by which the Fairness Doctrine was eliminated, and I apologize for not having done my homework on that. Nonetheless, my errors in fact do not materially affect my point, that with no requirements on broadcasters to provide airtime for opposing viewpoints, stations and networks began to feel free to experiment with ideologically-oriented programming (on radio, Limbaugh; on TV, Downey) that they would not have in years past. True, the networks often featured commentaries (e.g., Eric Sevareid, Howard K. Smith) on newscasts and controversial documentaries (the 1971 CBS "Selling of the Pentagon" comes most readily to mind), but the onus was on stations to provide rebuttal time. Because of that, affiliates (mostly run by businessmen afraid of offending advertisers) often pressured the networks to keep these to a minimum--some broadcasters by the late 1970s and early 1980s began pre-empting network docs with syndicated entertainment (the docs' historically low ratings was, of course, the main reason in most cases). After that, the networks more or less replaced documentaries with less controversial and more accessible magazine shows (e.g., Dateline NBC, Primetime Live on ABC).

In summary, the arrival of cable and the deregulatory emphasis of Republican administrations in the 1980s and early 1990s (not to mention FM radio doing in music formats on AM) did a lot to pave the way to where we are now. Downey was just one stage in that development, but it was a crucial one.
 
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