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Most interesting hotel/hospital lineups

Correction needed: WPHL-TV channel 17 is MY. WPSG-TV channel 57 is CW. I follow reporter Kelsey Fabian from channel 17. Most definitely a MY affiliate. :)

Of course. I made that error because WPHL is owned by Tribune and Tribune owns a lot of CW stations. That and because the channel card in the hotel room listed networks, not call signs, so I was trying to remember call sings and networks.
 
Of course. I made that error because WPHL is owned by Tribune and Tribune owns a lot of CW stations. That and because the channel card in the hotel room listed networks, not call signs, so I was trying to remember call sings and networks.

Also because most WB affiliates went to CW in 2006 (Philadelphia and Detroit are the only large markets I can think of off the top of my head in which the UPN affiliate picked up CW and the WB affiliate picked up MNT)
 
Catching up!
Red Roof Inn (East Lansing, MI)
2 - Paid Programming
3 - Traveler Shop
5 - WLNS (CBS 6 Lansing)
6 - WILX (NBC 10 Onondaga)
7 - WLAJ (ABC 53 Lansing)
8 - WSYM (FOX 47 Lansing)
9 - WKAR (PBS 23 East Lansing)
10 - Beachbody TV
11 - WLAJ-DT2 (CW)
12 - HBO
13 - ESPN
14 - ESPN2
15 - Spree Premiere (paid programming)
16 - ESPNEWS
17 - USA
18 - TBS
19 - TNT
20 - Shop Now (paid programming)
21 - Fox News Channel
22 - CNN
23 - HBO2
24 - FX
25 - Discovery Channel
26 - Weather Channel
27 - CNBC
28 - Discovery Channel (supposed to be Disney Channel)
29 - Paramount Network
30 - AMC
31 - Food Network
32 - Comedy Central
33 - MTV
34 - Nickelodeon
35 - History Channel
36 - MSNBC
37 - HGTV
38 - A&E
39 - HLN
40 - Animal Planet
41 - Syfy
42 - Lifetime
43 - Univision
44 - RT
45 - NHK World
46 - Sonlife
47 - Shop LC
50 - China Global Television
55 - Crave (paid programming)
Notable missing channels: Big Ten Network (this hotel is just south of MSU's campus)

Fairfield Inn (Ypsilanti, MI)
1 - WJBK (FOX 2 Detroit)
2 - WDIV (NBC 4 Detroit)
3 - WXYZ (ABC 7 Detroit)
4 - WWJ (CBS 62 Detroit)
5 - WTVS (PBS 56 Detroit)
6 - WKBD (CW 50 Detroit)
7 - ESPN
8 - ESPN2
9 - ESPNEWS
10 - ESPNU
11 - NFL Network
12 - NBCSN
13 - Golf Channel
14 - CNN
15 - HLN
16 - Fox News Channel
17 - MSNBC
18 - CNBC
19 - Bloomberg TV
20 - Weather Channel
21 - Cartoon Network
22 - Nickelodeon
23 - Lifetime
24 - Freeform
25 - A&E
26 - BET
27 - Comedy Central
28 - Discovery Channel
29 - Food Network
30 - HGTV
31 - History Channel
32 - MTV
33 - TBS
34 - TNT
35 - USA
36 - Travel Channel
37 - HBO
38 - HBO2
39 - HBO Comedy
40 - HBO Signature
41 - Hotel Information
Notable missing channels: CBET (CBC), WMYD (MNT), Big Ten Network

Wingate Inn (Winchester, VA)
1 - Guide
3 - WDCW (CW 50 Washington)
4 - WTTG (FOX 5 Washington)
5 - WUSA (CBS 9 Washington)
6 - WJLA (ABC 7 Washington)
7 - WZDC (Telemundo 44 Washington)
8 - WDCA (MNT 20 Washington)
9 - WETA (PBS 26 Washington)
10 - WFDC (Univision 14 Arlington)
11 - WVPT (PBS 51 Staunton)
12 - WMDO (UniMas 47 Washington)
13 - WJAL (SonLife 68 Silver Spring)
14 - WWPX (Ion 60 Martinsburg)
15 - Azteca America
16 - WRC (NBC 4 Washington)
17 - HBO
18 - Big Ten Network
19 - NBC Sports Washington
20 - MASN
21 - MASN2
22 - ESPN
23 - ESPN2
24 - Golf Channel
25 - Fox News Channel
26 - CNN
27 - HLN
28 - MSNBC
29 - CNBC
30 - Weather Channel
31 - USA
32 - TNT
33 - TBS
34 - A&E
35 - HGTV
36 - Food Network
37 - Lifetime
38 - MTV
39 - TLC
40 - Disney Channel
41 - Nickelodeon
42 - Freeform
43 - Discovery Channel
44 - Travel Channel
45 - FX
46 - NFL Network
47 - ESPNEWS
48 - ESPNU
49 - NBCSN
50 - Fox Business Network
51 - FS1
52 - Hallmark Channel
53 - National Geographic
54 - Cartoon Network
55 - Comedy Central
56 - E!
57 - Bravo
58 - History Channel
59 - AMC
Notable missing channels: WDVM (independent/H&I; the other commercial Hagerstown station (WJAL, which has since moved into DC proper) is carried), the other PBS members in the Washington DC market [this system is supplied by Comcast, which does carry WDVM on its main Winchester lineup but not WHUT or WMPT]
 
Odd line-up in Oregon

I came across a somewhat odd lineup in Oregon at The Wildhorse Resort & Casino Hotel, near Pendleton, OR in the northeast part of the State.

1 - CNN
2 - ABC Tri-Cities, WA
3 - CNBC
4 - HLN
5 - TRU
6 - Lifetime
7 - Oxygen
8 - Comedy Network
9 - USA
10 - NBC Tri-Cities, WA
11 - FX
12 - CBS Tri-Cities, WA
13 - TBS
14 - A&E
15 - TNT
16 - AMC
17 - Fox MC
18 - Travel Channel
19 - Golf Channel
20. MLB Net
21 - Food Network
22 - NBC SN
23 - NFL Network
24 - Fox Tri-Cities, WA (unavailable)*
25 - Fox News Channel
26 - ESPN2
27 - ESPN
28 - ESPNU
29 - National Geograhic Channel
30 - Discovery
31 - History
32 - Cartoon Network
33 - ABC Family
34 - Nick
35 - TVLand
36 - Univision
37 - GLVSN
38 - CMT
39 - MTV
40 - VH1

* Ch 24 has a Directv link

Note also no HBO, SHO, etc. (probably due to it being a casino and wanting the customers using the resort)

I say this is an odd lineup due to the channel positioning. Maybe someone knows if Directv has specific packages for hotels and this is one of them? But the channels don't match up to the usual Directv positioning. Any guesses?
 
I came across a somewhat odd lineup in Oregon at The Wildhorse Resort & Casino Hotel, near Pendleton, OR in the northeast part of the State.


24 - Fox Tri-Cities, WA (unavailable)*
* Ch 24 has a Directv link
FOX station is in dispute with Directv

I say this is an odd lineup due to the channel positioning. Maybe someone knows if Directv has specific packages for hotels and this is one of them? But the channels don't match up to the usual Directv positioning. Any guesses?

probably one of those setups like my grandma has at her Assisted Living facility. Bunch of Directv receivers in a tech closet. Each tuned to a specific channel. All go into modulators that they choose a channel number for output. All modulators go into the combiner/distribution out to the Tv's. Like this
https://www.zeevee.com/
https://www.zeevee.com/applications/bulk-tv-distribution/

so as example her Directv "system" when she goes through the channels 2-10 are the Minneapolis locals (legacy VHF on 2,4,5,9..UHF's on 6,7,8...NBC 11 is on 10 and 3 is the in house announcements), 11-37 originally were the most popular stations in alphabetical order. But since then the tenants have requested other stations so they are replaced in the system. As example they switched Nickelodeon to Food Network, ESPN2 to Big Ten Network (we are in Minnesota). All channels in 720p regardless if SD or HD. RFDTV is carried in 720p even though the station is only 480i. Directv has bulk pricing for commercial accounts where they buy "themes" of channels.
 
Yep, KFFX has been out on DIRECTV for over 6 months. No break on our bill, standstill on negotiations, Brian Brady AND DIRECTV should both be ashamed of themselves. Will this last into freakin' Seahawks season!?

Thanks for that lineup, my family has been wanting to go play at Wildhorse for years. The casino is huge, bigger than Legends down in Toppenish...
 
FOX station is in dispute with Directv



probably one of those setups like my grandma has at her Assisted Living facility. Bunch of Directv receivers in a tech closet. Each tuned to a specific channel. All go into modulators that they choose a channel number for output. All modulators go into the combiner/distribution out to the Tv's. Like this
https://www.zeevee.com/
https://www.zeevee.com/applications/bulk-tv-distribution/

so as example her Directv "system" when she goes through the channels 2-10 are the Minneapolis locals (legacy VHF on 2,4,5,9..UHF's on 6,7,8...NBC 11 is on 10 and 3 is the in house announcements), 11-37 originally were the most popular stations in alphabetical order. But since then the tenants have requested other stations so they are replaced in the system. As example they switched Nickelodeon to Food Network, ESPN2 to Big Ten Network (we are in Minnesota). All channels in 720p regardless if SD or HD. RFDTV is carried in 720p even though the station is only 480i. Directv has bulk pricing for commercial accounts where they buy "themes" of channels.
That is interesting. I see today directv now has yet another conflict with CBS but that is a different thread.
 
I came across a somewhat odd lineup in Oregon at The Wildhorse Resort & Casino Hotel, near Pendleton, OR in the northeast part of the State.

1 - CNN
2 - ABC Tri-Cities, WA
3 - CNBC
4 - HLN
5 - TRU
6 - Lifetime
7 - Oxygen
8 - Comedy Network
9 - USA
10 - NBC Tri-Cities, WA
11 - FX
12 - CBS Tri-Cities, WA
13 - TBS
14 - A&E
15 - TNT
16 - AMC
17 - Fox MC
18 - Travel Channel
19 - Golf Channel
20. MLB Net
21 - Food Network
22 - NBC SN
23 - NFL Network
24 - Fox Tri-Cities, WA (unavailable)*
25 - Fox News Channel
26 - ESPN2
27 - ESPN
28 - ESPNU
29 - National Geograhic Channel
30 - Discovery
31 - History
32 - Cartoon Network
33 - ABC Family
34 - Nick
35 - TVLand
36 - Univision
37 - GLVSN
38 - CMT
39 - MTV
40 - VH1

* Ch 24 has a Directv link

Note also no HBO, SHO, etc. (probably due to it being a casino and wanting the customers using the resort)

I say this is an odd lineup due to the channel positioning. Maybe someone knows if Directv has specific packages for hotels and this is one of them? But the channels don't match up to the usual Directv positioning. Any guesses?

Also no PBS or CW at all!
 
Yes, that was interesting. CW is easily available over the DT2 of KEPR, and KTNW is the local PBS. In Pendleton, I think even KOPB has a translator IIRC.
 
Yes, that was interesting. CW is easily available over the DT2 of KEPR, and KTNW is the local PBS. In Pendleton, I think even KOPB has a translator IIRC.

Also, KFFX and OPB should be easily available OTA. In case you're wondering what is on cable in Pendleton, Charter Spectrum carries the Big Four, CW, Univision, and Telemundo from Yakima/Tri-Cities, the Big Four from Portland, and OPB (KTNW isn't carried)
 
Also, KFFX and OPB should be easily available OTA. In case you're wondering what is on cable in Pendleton, Charter Spectrum carries the Big Four, CW, Univision, and Telemundo from Yakima/Tri-Cities, the Big Four from Portland, and OPB (KTNW isn't carried)

Seriously, a Pendleton, OR lineup SHOULD include the big 4 out of Portland. But again, this is a casino that attracts a lot of visitors from Eastern Washington, so my guess is whoever put this together chose the Tri-Cities, WA for their network affiliates.
 
Seriously, a Pendleton, OR lineup SHOULD include the big 4 out of Portland. But again, this is a casino that attracts a lot of visitors from Eastern Washington, so my guess is whoever put this together chose the Tri-Cities, WA for their network affiliates.

actually Morrow and Umatilla (of which Pendelton is part of) counties are in the Tri-Cities DMA so by law Directv can only give them those locals
 
actually Morrow and Umatilla (of which Pendelton is part of) counties are in the Tri-Cities DMA so by law Directv can only give them those locals

And Charter/Spectrum is exempt from this law? Or are the translators exempt? I'm confused.

What is weird is when you go even further southeast from Pendleton, cable carries Portland's full boat in LaGrande, about 50 miles away, and Baker City about 100 miles. Of course those two towns are pretty isolated and Portland would logically be the default.

One unrelated point...The Tri-Cities affiliates rarely cover Pendleton news. Barely even cover Hermiston closer to the WA border.
 
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The same goes with Easton and Cle Elum WA. Yakima DMA, thus DIRECTV and Dish have to provide Tri-Cities and Yakima TV which just about never covers Cle Elum. Cable used to have Seattle-Tacoma until a few years ago. Now all they get from Seattle on cable is KING. Rest is Yakima including subchannels. Talk about a huge drop in news quality for those viewers...
 
And Charter/Spectrum is exempt from this law? Or are the translators exempt? I'm confused.

cable and satellite have different rules on what stations they can carry. Cable's rules are from the 60s where you could carry anything you pick up OTA. It was amended in the 70s with Significant Viewed stations. In 2005 the FCC put out the "most recent" list of every county in the US and what stations were still considered significant viewed (most form the list form the 70s with some additions). According to that list Morrow County has these stations as Significant Viewed
KEPR-TV, 19, Pasco, WA
KNDU, 25, Richland, WA
KVEW, 42, Kennewick, WA
KATU, 2, Portland, OR
KOIN, 6, Portland, OR
KGW, 8, Portland, OR

Ironically Umatilla County is just the "Big 3" from Tri Cities (remember this list was made in the 70s and updated partially in the 80s). But in cases like this cable has the upperhand as they would offer "in state" stations.

Satellite goes back to 1999 with SHVIA (Satellite Home Viewer Improvement Act) which in simple terms SHVIA allows (not requires) satellite companies to retransmit a local broadcast network signal back into the same local market area from which it originates ("local-into-local"). So satellite is hindered by the fact they can only offer the local stations for the market as defined by Nielsen. There are some extreme examples of where satellite can and do import neighboring markets
-I live in Mankato, MN (Blue Earth County) which is a 1 station market (KEYC CBS & FOX). North Mankato is in Nicollet County which is considered the Minneapolis market (even though Mpls is 75 miles away). So at one time Direct offered the Mpls stations + KEYC CBS for North Mankato (KEYC's studio is in N Mankato). A few years ago (4 or 5) Nielsen moved North Mankato into the Mankato market. So satellite subs in both towns get only KEYC CBS & FOX, ABC & NBC from Minneapolis (since there is no affiliate of either AS OF TODAY...in September KEYC's owner (Gray) is launching KMNF-LD with NBC & CW. Then satellite will have to drop KARE NBC from Minneapolis.
-There are some examples where a law was enacted to allow neighboring market locals. In 2010 when they renewed SHVIA (now called STELA) Vermont Senator Patrick Leahy got a provision added that ALL Vermont address received Vermont locals, regardless of what Nielsen said. The 2 bottom counties in Vermont are in Albany and Boston DMA. News article on it
https://www.benningtonbanner.com/stories/dish-now-provides-vt-stations,95218

One other example is when a TV station (via their owner) petitions the FCC to allow a station to part of a market. In 2016 (after STELA was renewed and called STELAR) Gray petitioned to have WSAW CBS & FOX added to 2 counties that are part of the Duluth, MN DMA due to those counties being in Wisconsin. Here is the northpine.com article about it
For the first time in the Upper Midwest, and possibly the first time nationally, the FCC has granted a market modification expanding a station's satellite coverage area. Distribution of the CBS and FOX channels from Gray TV's WSAW/7 (Wausau) will be extended north into Ashland and Iron Counties after the FCC granted a market modification under the Satellite Television Extension and Localism Act Reauthorization (STELAR) Act of 2014. Gray argued that the counties, which are within the Duluth-Superior market, are "orphan counties" because the majority of the TV signals in the market are from Minnesota. The decision shows that counties can be declared "orphans" even if one of their market's major network affiliates (in this case, KBJR-TV Superior) is licensed in the same state. Two Duluth stations unsuccessfully argued against Gray's proposal, citing their own coverage of news, weather, and sports in the area. Under the FCC decision, DISH Network will be required to offer WSAW throughout Ashland and Iron Counties; DirecTV will be required to offer the station in all of Iron County but only in the southern part of Ashland County after showing that its Wausau spotbeam could not adequately reach northern Ashland County. (1/27/2017)

Other than the examples I gave above, unless you are a short market (no affiliate of a network in which they will import) you get only your DMA's locals. And if there is a dispute no they can not import a different affiliate. The exception is if the network that is pulled is imported. So the time Tegna pulled KARE 11 from Dish, Dish could legally substitute a different NBC for Mankato since there is no local NBC.

So as example Mankato/North Mankato is as such
Directv is KEYC CBS & FOX, Minneapolis KARE NBC and KSTP ABC, WUCW CW from Mpls and National PBS
Dish is the same except they dont import a CW
Charter is the Minneapolis locals except CW which is KTTC-DT2 CW+ from Rochester, MN. They also get KEYC CBS & FOX and KAAL ABC & KSMQ PBS from Austin, MN (Rochester, MN market)
Consolidated is same except CW is the cable only CW and no Rochester market stations.

There are lots of examples where the stations you get on satellite is weird/questionable (basically orphan counties). SW of Mankato is a couple counties that get the Minneapolis locals (goes back to when Mankato had just CBS) so counties 40 miles SW of Mankato (and over 130 miles from Minneapolis) get Minneapolis stations only while cable adds KEYC CBS & FOX which in some cases is 10 miles from the KEYC tower.
 
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cable and satellite have different rules on what stations they can carry. Cable's rules are from the 60s where you could carry anything you pick up OTA. It was amended in the 70s with Significant Viewed stations. In 2005 the FCC put out the "most recent" list of every county in the US and what stations were still considered significant viewed (most form the list form the 70s with some additions). According to that list Morrow County has these stations as Significant Viewed
KEPR-TV, 19, Pasco, WA
KNDU, 25, Richland, WA
KVEW, 42, Kennewick, WA
KATU, 2, Portland, OR
KOIN, 6, Portland, OR
KGW, 8, Portland, OR

Ironically Umatilla County is just the "Big 3" from Tri Cities (remember this list was made in the 70s and updated partially in the 80s). But in cases like this cable has the upperhand as they would offer "in state" stations.

Satellite goes back to 1999 with SHVIA (Satellite Home Viewer Improvement Act) which in simple terms SHVIA allows (not requires) satellite companies to retransmit a local broadcast network signal back into the same local market area from which it originates ("local-into-local"). So satellite is hindered by the fact they can only offer the local stations for the market as defined by Nielsen. There are some extreme examples of where satellite can and do import neighboring markets
-I live in Mankato, MN (Blue Earth County) which is a 1 station market (KEYC CBS & FOX). North Mankato is in Nicollet County which is considered the Minneapolis market (even though Mpls is 75 miles away). So at one time Direct offered the Mpls stations + KEYC CBS for North Mankato (KEYC's studio is in N Mankato). A few years ago (4 or 5) Nielsen moved North Mankato into the Mankato market. So satellite subs in both towns get only KEYC CBS & FOX, ABC & NBC from Minneapolis (since there is no affiliate of either AS OF TODAY...in September KEYC's owner (Gray) is launching KMNF-LD with NBC & CW. Then satellite will have to drop KARE NBC from Minneapolis.
-There are some examples where a law was enacted to allow neighboring market locals. In 2010 when they renewed SHVIA (now called STELA) Vermont Senator Patrick Leahy got a provision added that ALL Vermont address received Vermont locals, regardless of what Nielsen said. The 2 bottom counties in Vermont are in Albany and Boston DMA. News article on it
https://www.benningtonbanner.com/stories/dish-now-provides-vt-stations,95218

One other example is when a TV station (via their owner) petitions the FCC to allow a station to part of a market. In 2016 (after STELA was renewed and called STELAR) Gray petitioned to have WSAW CBS & FOX added to 2 counties that are part of the Duluth, MN DMA due to those counties being in Wisconsin. Here is the northpine.com article about it
For the first time in the Upper Midwest, and possibly the first time nationally, the FCC has granted a market modification expanding a station's satellite coverage area. Distribution of the CBS and FOX channels from Gray TV's WSAW/7 (Wausau) will be extended north into Ashland and Iron Counties after the FCC granted a market modification under the Satellite Television Extension and Localism Act Reauthorization (STELAR) Act of 2014. Gray argued that the counties, which are within the Duluth-Superior market, are "orphan counties" because the majority of the TV signals in the market are from Minnesota. The decision shows that counties can be declared "orphans" even if one of their market's major network affiliates (in this case, KBJR-TV Superior) is licensed in the same state. Two Duluth stations unsuccessfully argued against Gray's proposal, citing their own coverage of news, weather, and sports in the area. Under the FCC decision, DISH Network will be required to offer WSAW throughout Ashland and Iron Counties; DirecTV will be required to offer the station in all of Iron County but only in the southern part of Ashland County after showing that its Wausau spotbeam could not adequately reach northern Ashland County. (1/27/2017)

Other than the examples I gave above, unless you are a short market (no affiliate of a network in which they will import) you get only your DMA's locals. And if there is a dispute no they can not import a different affiliate. The exception is if the network that is pulled is imported. So the time Tegna pulled KARE 11 from Dish, Dish could legally substitute a different NBC for Mankato since there is no local NBC.

So as example Mankato/North Mankato is as such
Directv is KEYC CBS & FOX, Minneapolis KARE NBC and KSTP ABC, WUCW CW from Mpls and National PBS
Dish is the same except they dont import a CW
Charter is the Minneapolis locals except CW which is KTTC-DT2 CW+ from Rochester, MN. They also get KEYC CBS & FOX and KAAL ABC & KSMQ PBS from Austin, MN (Rochester, MN market)
Consolidated is same except CW is the cable only CW and no Rochester market stations.

There are lots of examples where the stations you get on satellite is weird/questionable (basically orphan counties). SW of Mankato is a couple counties that get the Minneapolis locals (goes back to when Mankato had just CBS) so counties 40 miles SW of Mankato (and over 130 miles from Minneapolis) get Minneapolis stations only while cable adds KEYC CBS & FOX which in some cases is 10 miles from the KEYC tower.

Wow that seems pretty complicated, but thanks for that explanation. It should be simplified for today's digital technology, IMO. Pendleton probably should be receiving Directv out of Portland, but I now understand why they don't. I think any viewer in Pendleton would be more interested in Oregon news than Tri-Cities, WA news.
 
Wow that seems pretty complicated, but thanks for that explanation. It should be simplified for today's digital technology, IMO. Pendleton probably should be receiving Directv out of Portland, but I now understand why they don't. I think any viewer in Pendleton would be more interested in Oregon news than Tri-Cities, WA news.

In 2015 they did modify STELAR (the law that allows satellite companies to carry locals) permits the Commission to add communities to, or delete communities from, a station’s local television market for purposes of satellite carriage, following a written request (as what happened in the above WSAW request). The main reason is "orphan counties"
By extending the market modification process to satellite television, Congress, in part, sought to address the so-called “orphan county” problem. An orphan county is a county that, as a result of the structure of a local satellite market, is served exclusively, or almost exclusively, by television stations coming from a neighboring state.14 Satellite television subscribers residing in an orphan county often are not able to access their home state’s news, politics, sports, emergency information, and other television programming. Providing the Commission with a means to address this problem by altering the structure of, and therefore the stations located within, a local market was a primary factor in Congress’s decision to extend market modification authority to the satellite context.


But its not just cut and dry. It has to do with satellite spotbeams for locals. Satellite reuses transponders for local markets so the same transponder for locals in Minneapolis can also be the same for Seattle, Miami, Bangor Maine, Austin, Texas etc. No you cant see stations outside of the market but it allows the satco's to reuse space. Part of the issue is it looks like the Portland spotbeam doesnt cover the whole county that pendelton is in
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So there may be an issue like the Gray WSAW example above. If you want to read what the FCC noted here is the link (page 6 starts the explanation)
https://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2017/db0117/DA-17-74A1.pdf

But the big issue is KFFX is in Pendelton proper so that kinda puts them in the Tri-Cities market. So even if Nielsen wanted to change them to Portland market they would have an issue with a full power licensed station in the town. I guess the translators there help with getting the Portland locals with an antenna.
 
Cox Cable in Fredericksburg VA has a fairly standard lineup, including WTVR (CBS) from Richmond. But the strange part is, they only carry WTVR during newscasts, any other time it's replaced by a slide that says WTVR is only available during certain hours.

I live in Spotsylvania County and we have FIOS here at home, I get WTVR and WRLH (FOX Richmond) with full access, not just during newscasts.
 
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