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movie night on WBZ

> Another movie night with Frank Ochieng and Garry and Marilyn
> Armstrong tonite on WBZ (mid-3:30 am). Tonight devoted to
> laughter and comedy
>
> http://www.moviefrank.com
>
Isn't it wonderful how many radio stations like to bury a lot of their "creative programming" in the 'wee small hours of the morning?' And that leaves most of its radio audience the choice of losing sleep in order to hear it...or just ignoring the show entirely???

Actually, many of us who have heard the program should offer a round of applause to WBZ for having the fortitude to present something different from their usual format? [I don't suppose there's any way they could do a replay of the show later Sunday morning or early afternoon?].

argytunes
 
An interesting proposal..but wouldn't that be like asking WRKO to replay the Howie Carr show at, say 9 PM for those of us who can't listen during the time it's on?

I'm not trying to compare Jordan Rich and Howie Carr, by the way. They do very different types of programs, and I'd say they each do it well.

Jordan rich has a website where you can see who his upcoming guests are, and if you can't stay up, perhaps you could record the show?

WBZ isn't about to re-broadcast the evening show during the day. The news format is a money maker, even on weekends.

>
> Actually, many of us who have heard the program should offer
> a round of applause to WBZ for having the fortitude to
> present something different from their usual format? [I
> don't suppose there's any way they could do a replay of the
> show later Sunday morning or early afternoon?].
>
> argytunes
>
 
Too bad that they couldn't have put Jordan (& Frank & Garry) on at an earlier
time slot. Maybe someday they'll podcast it for those who couldn't hear it
at its normal time...I know 'RKO is at least podcasting the Chumpline part of
Howie's show now.

I taped it (for my friend Frank; I also do his website) and right now am
dubbing it for him on cass. To be honest I was kinda tired and was only
half-listening after 1 am or so (I called in just before 1 am) but thanks
to tape I can hear the whole thing back.

Email or call WBZ and ask if there's a way they can do a "best of Jordan
Rich" maybe at an earlier time slot (and hope he wouldn't be pre-empted
by a Bruins game)

> Isn't it wonderful how many radio stations like to bury a
> lot of their "creative programming" in the 'wee small hours
> of the morning?' And that leaves most of its radio audience
> the choice of losing sleep in order to hear it...or just
> ignoring the show entirely???
>
> Actually, many of us who have heard the program should offer
> a round of applause to WBZ for having the fortitude to
> present something different from their usual format? [I
> don't suppose there's any way they could do a replay of the
> show later Sunday morning or early afternoon?].
>
> argytunes
>
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> An interesting proposal..but wouldn't that be like asking
> WRKO to replay the Howie Carr show at, say 9 PM for those of
> us who can't listen during the time it's on?

That could be one reason why they play part of Howie's show back on
Sat. morning (plus, cheaper to do a re-run than hire a host or do
a syndie show for that slot!)


> WBZ isn't about to re-broadcast the evening show during the
> day. The news format is a money maker, even on weekends.

Yes.

I suppose I could play the cass. tape and dub it to my harddrive (I have
software to do this) and offer it as a podcast but I would'nt want to
nec. do it without WBZ's approval...though I might be able to do
an hour or so (it does cost $ for webspace and bandwith but maybe I
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> An interesting proposal..but wouldn't that be like asking
> WRKO to replay the Howie Carr show at, say 9 PM for those of
> us who can't listen during the time it's on?
>
> I'm not trying to compare Jordan Rich and Howie Carr, by the
> way. They do very different types of programs, and I'd say
> they each do it well.

Agreed! But you get HOWIE for at least 5 days a week. How frequently does "The Movie Show" appear on the air. And considering the subject matter, more listeners might be more receptive to a rerun of a show devoted films and television....instead of listening to an afternoon drive talk show host complain about everything from politics to peanut butter!

argytunes
 
> > An interesting proposal..but wouldn't that be like asking
> > WRKO to replay the Howie Carr show at, say 9 PM for those
> of
> > us who can't listen during the time it's on?
>
> That could be one reason why they play part of Howie's show
> back on
> Sat. morning (plus, cheaper to do a re-run than hire a host
> or do
> a syndie show for that slot!)

I had no idea HOWIE was replayed on Saturday morning! Since I catch his show on a Portland, Maine affiliate----I thought 5 days of Mr. Carr was plenty???
>
>
> > WBZ isn't about to re-broadcast the evening show during
> the
> > day. The news format is a money maker, even on weekends.
>
> Yes.
>
> I suppose I could play the cass. tape and dub it to my
> harddrive (I have
> software to do this) and offer it as a podcast but I
> would'nt want to
> nec. do it without WBZ's approval...though I might be able
> to do
> an hour or so (it does cost $ for webspace and bandwith but
> maybe I
> could put a podcast on Frank's site?
> http://www.moviefrank.com )

Even if you got WBZ's permission...can you imagine the number of listeners who would have access to something ENJOYABLE? Movies (whether you like 'em or hate 'em) speak a "universal language" to most of us! [And of course...WBZ could offer spot avails to other advertisers if they wanted to]!

argytunes


>
 
Well, I meant to show an example of one talk station in town podcasting
some of its content.

> Agreed! But you get HOWIE for at least 5 days a week. How
> frequently does "The Movie Show" appear on the air. And
> considering the subject matter, more listeners might be more
> receptive to a rerun of a show devoted films and
> television....instead of listening to an afternoon drive
> talk show host complain about everything from politics to
> peanut butter!
>
> argytunes
>
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I'm not trying to be condescending, but I'm sure you know that isn't how it works.

Stations follow the money trail. WBZ makes money hand over fist with traffic and weather sponsorships alone.

Now, I could see moving up the topic to one of the earlier Saturday night talk shows they have, such as Lovell Dyett or the other guy. But Jordan does this the best out of any of 'em on BZ, and he's firmly ensconsed in the weekend overnight shift.

> > > An interesting proposal..but wouldn't that be like
> asking
> > > WRKO to replay the Howie Carr show at, say 9 PM for
> those
> > of
> > > us who can't listen during the time it's on?
> >
> > That could be one reason why they play part of Howie's
> show
> > back on
> > Sat. morning (plus, cheaper to do a re-run than hire a
> host
> > or do
> > a syndie show for that slot!)
>
> I had no idea HOWIE was replayed on Saturday morning! Since
> I catch his show on a Portland, Maine affiliate----I thought
> 5 days of Mr. Carr was plenty???
> >
> >
> > > WBZ isn't about to re-broadcast the evening show during
> > the
> > > day. The news format is a money maker, even on
> weekends.
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > I suppose I could play the cass. tape and dub it to my
> > harddrive (I have
> > software to do this) and offer it as a podcast but I
> > would'nt want to
> > nec. do it without WBZ's approval...though I might be able
>
> > to do
> > an hour or so (it does cost $ for webspace and bandwith
> but
> > maybe I
> > could put a podcast on Frank's site?
> > http://www.moviefrank.com )
>
> Even if you got WBZ's permission...can you imagine the
> number of listeners who would have access to something
> ENJOYABLE? Movies (whether you like 'em or hate 'em) speak
> a "universal language" to most of us! [And of course...WBZ
> could offer spot avails to other advertisers if they wanted
> to]!
>
> argytunes
>
>
> >
>
 
> I'm not trying to be condescending, but I'm sure you know
> that isn't how it works.
>
> Stations follow the money trail. WBZ makes money hand over
> fist with traffic and weather sponsorships alone.
>
> Now, I could see moving up the topic to one of the earlier
> Saturday night talk shows they have, such as Lovell Dyett or
> the other guy. But Jordan does this the best out of any of
> 'em on BZ, and he's firmly ensconsed in the weekend
> overnight shift.


So let me see if I understand this? WBZ makes more money doing traffic and weather and would lose revenue by airing "a movie show" at an earlier hour???

Hmmmm.....

Just for s**ts & giggles...I don't suppose there's any possible way of squeaking in a weather forecast and perhaps an occasional traffic update during the "movie show?" [Are they all done live...or are some of 'em canned?].

Granted....the term: TRAFFIC ON THE 3's couldn't be used as extensively as it's used during the regular day & nightparts, but WBZ would STILL be covering itself....along with the advertisers who are paying the BIG BUCKS for the weather and the traffic reports!

argytunes
 
> Isn't it wonderful how many radio stations like to bury a
> lot of their "creative programming" in the 'wee small hours
> of the morning?' And that leaves most of its radio audience
> the choice of losing sleep in order to hear it...or just
> ignoring the show entirely???

I have my tuner patched in to my hi-fi stereo VCR so that I can set the timer to record radio shows I would otherwise miss. Since I work overnights, sometimes I have to do that to hear DAYTIME radio shows that I miss when I'm asleep.

And since my tuner is a Sony STR-AV490 from the mid-80's, I could even record the show in AM stereo... that is, if WBZ had continued to broadcast in AM stereo.
 
That's one way to do it. Another way is via your computer. I use a program
called AudioRecordWizard3 from nowsmart.com; it can tape from any source
(vinyl records, radio, etc.) for any length of time (once you pay the $25).
Has a timer so you can set it and tape onto your hard drive (use an
adapter to go to your stereo. 1/8" plug on one end, RCA plugs on the other.)

Then if you have one big glob of a file and want to cut it down (to
burn on _audio_ CDs, for example) there's a free program called
mp3 Direct Cut.

> I have my tuner patched in to my hi-fi stereo VCR so that I
> can set the timer to record radio shows I would otherwise
> miss. Since I work overnights, sometimes I have to do that
> to hear DAYTIME radio shows that I miss when I'm asleep.
>
> And since my tuner is a Sony STR-AV490 from the mid-80's, I
> could even record the show in AM stereo... that is, if WBZ
> had continued to broadcast in AM stereo.
>
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>
> So let me see if I understand this? WBZ makes more money
> doing traffic and weather and would lose revenue by airing
> "a movie show" at an earlier hour???
>

They wouldn't lose any revenue, I wouldn't think, by airing Jordan's program earlier in the evening on weekends. But he's built a fan base in the wee small hours. Who knows if the base would be as strong at an earlier hour? It very well may.

That being said, if you feel passionately enough about this, I'd recommend sending a letter to the Program Director at WBZ.
 
> > So let me see if I understand this? WBZ makes more money
> > doing traffic and weather and would lose revenue by airing
>
> > "a movie show" at an earlier hour???
> >
>
> They wouldn't lose any revenue, I wouldn't think, by airing
> Jordan's program earlier in the evening on weekends. But
> he's built a fan base in the wee small hours. Who knows if
> the base would be as strong at an earlier hour? It very
> well may.
>
> That being said, if you feel passionately enough about this,
> I'd recommend sending a letter to the Program Director at
> WBZ.


I'd be very happy to write...but will ONLY ONE LETTER make any difference at all? Most Program Directors (that I know) usually don't pay any attention unless there are dozens and dozens of 'em?

argytunes
 
Ya gotta start somewhere. If you choose not to write or call, then station leadership will never even hear you idea. Just a thought.

> > > So let me see if I understand this? WBZ makes more
> money
> > > doing traffic and weather and would lose revenue by
> airing
> >
> > > "a movie show" at an earlier hour???
> > >
> >
> > They wouldn't lose any revenue, I wouldn't think, by
> airing
> > Jordan's program earlier in the evening on weekends. But
> > he's built a fan base in the wee small hours. Who knows
> if
> > the base would be as strong at an earlier hour? It very
> > well may.
> >
> > That being said, if you feel passionately enough about
> this,
> > I'd recommend sending a letter to the Program Director at
> > WBZ.
>
>
> I'd be very happy to write...but will ONLY ONE LETTER make
> any difference at all? Most Program Directors (that I know)
> usually don't pay any attention unless there are dozens and
> dozens of 'em?
>
> argytunes
>
 
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