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Granted getting a job in a major market doesn't always mean you're major market talent & it's equally true there probably aren't a whole lot of jocks who couldn't at least make a step up if they really wanted to. But who do you think in Providence is obvious larger market talent? Not just right-place-right-time or a connection somewhere but people who could simply send a package & probably stand a good chance of being hired at the right station?

Also any surrounding area jocks ready for a bigger move or weekenders who really should be full time?

Naturally we're not looking at the motivations of the ones who might be named since some just don't want to make moves,but in general since we've had some complimentary threads lately.
 
As a weekender looking to go full-time, I have realized that the North East is a BITCH to break into...stations that I would prefer to work at in big markets are unenterable because of in-hiring. There are a couple talents out there that SHOULDNT be in the market they are in, whether they are bad talent in a great market, or vice versa.

Don't get me wrong! This market and the market north of Provi (Boston for those of you without a Map) have ALOT of great talent, but there are a couple that make you go "HOW THE HELL DID THAT HAPPEN!? How'd he/she get that job?!"

If you a) dont know someone or b) don't slide in at the right time, your chances are very VERY slim. Its what I've seen. But I have seen that stations out of the northeast are more willing to "take a shot" with someone they may not know but they have heard and think would work great.

When a talent like Jackson Blue gets hired at Kiss...I feel ALOT better about the industry. There is someone that worked his ass off, and now he gets to reap the benefits. Lets just how the boys club lets other ass-busting weekenders closer to the promised land. Haha


> Granted getting a job in a major market doesn't always mean
> you're major market talent & it's equally true there
> probably aren't a whole lot of jocks who couldn't at least
> make a step up if they really wanted to. But who do you
> think in Providence is obvious larger market talent? Not
> just right-place-right-time or a connection somewhere but
> people who could simply send a package & probably stand a
> good chance of being hired at the right station?
>
> Also any surrounding area jocks ready for a bigger move or
> weekenders who really should be full time?
>
> Naturally we're not looking at the motivations of the ones
> who might be named since some just don't want to make
> moves,but in general since we've had some complimentary
> threads lately.
>
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> As a weekender looking to go full-time, I have realized that
> the North East is a BITCH to break into...stations that I
> would prefer to work at in big markets are unenterable
> because of in-hiring. There are a couple talents out there
> that SHOULDNT be in the market they are in, whether they are
> bad talent in a great market, or vice versa.
>
> Don't get me wrong! This market and the market north of
> Provi (Boston for those of you without a Map) have ALOT of
> great talent, but there are a couple that make you go "HOW
> THE HELL DID THAT HAPPEN!? How'd he/she get that job?!"
>
> If you a) dont know someone or b) don't slide in at the
> right time, your chances are very VERY slim. Its what I've
> seen. But I have seen that stations out of the northeast are
> more willing to "take a shot" with someone they may not know
> but they have heard and think would work great.
>
> When a talent like Jackson Blue gets hired at Kiss...I feel
> ALOT better about the industry. There is someone that worked
> his ass off, and now he gets to reap the benefits. Lets just
> how the boys club lets other ass-busting weekenders closer
> to the promised land. Haha

Well just look at the Providence market which I'm more familiar with than Boston:

PRO-FM: Other than the revolving night door which was filled by Kerry Collins who was a good choice,it would take a PD change for other slots to open. There's a comfort zone there & apparently no one wants to leave.

Coast: Two good talents in Chris Eagan & David O'Leary could move up easily.

WCTK: Stability there & with all due respect to the station,successful or not,there are those who balk at working country even if a slot opened up.

LITE: Let's just say 2006 will be another year when Charlie Jefferds won't retire. If either he or Gary DeGraide left they would be hard positions to fill due to heritage.

B101: Austin is probably the only weekender who would even be willing to take a full time job there & they're already tracked from out of town middays.

Hot: I'm not that familiar with the station but if someone does leave the slot won't be filled by a generic jock willing to work anything from CHR to Hot Ac to Urban. They would be looking for a specific type of jock

HJY: Not a station for a weekender to break into from the outside,Brangiforte notwithstanding. Even if there are drive time changes here the station would look far & wide for replacements with track records & they may already have a night team ready to move into days.

So weekends are forever unless people want to just move to another area.
 
PRO is the example of a station that doesnt give a fair shake to anyone who doesnt know anyone on the inside. One someone in particular. It is similar at alot of stations around this area, so I dont want to pick on Pro in particular, but there is so much in-hiring there that they'd be better off not posting openings to the public because they dont have a shot in hell. LOL...

Personally, I am ready for relocation. I have family and friends around this area and I will miss SO dearly, but when you bust your ass and drive 2 hours to your station just to catch a break, you aren't going to wait around for a response around here.

Although I'd prefer a gig around here, I have been sending my package out to stations nationwide...and I've noticed that larger market stations out of the northeast are actually pretty good at getting back to me!! Here, not so much. We are talking about like-sized markets...so I'm at a loss.

It's tough up here!! Everyone and their mother wants to be onair. Haha...

So for any weekender looking for a gig here and not finding it...it is time to ask yourself a question. Are you willing to move? If you are, there is a job out there for you and you could possibly make a living in the industry! If not, then you could be faced with a LONG DRYSPELL looking for a gig.

Flying out for an interview soon...wish me luck!! :-x


> > As a weekender looking to go full-time, I have realized
> that
> > the North East is a BITCH to break into...stations that I
> > would prefer to work at in big markets are unenterable
> > because of in-hiring. There are a couple talents out there
>
> > that SHOULDNT be in the market they are in, whether they
> are
> > bad talent in a great market, or vice versa.
> >
> > Don't get me wrong! This market and the market north of
> > Provi (Boston for those of you without a Map) have ALOT of
>
> > great talent, but there are a couple that make you go "HOW
>
> > THE HELL DID THAT HAPPEN!? How'd he/she get that job?!"
> >
> > If you a) dont know someone or b) don't slide in at the
> > right time, your chances are very VERY slim. Its what I've
>
> > seen. But I have seen that stations out of the northeast
> are
> > more willing to "take a shot" with someone they may not
> know
> > but they have heard and think would work great.
> >
> > When a talent like Jackson Blue gets hired at Kiss...I
> feel
> > ALOT better about the industry. There is someone that
> worked
> > his ass off, and now he gets to reap the benefits. Lets
> just
> > how the boys club lets other ass-busting weekenders closer
>
> > to the promised land. Haha
>
> Well just look at the Providence market which I'm more
> familiar with than Boston:
>
> PRO-FM: Other than the revolving night door which was filled
> by Kerry Collins who was a good choice,it would take a PD
> change for other slots to open. There's a comfort zone there
> & apparently no one wants to leave.
>
> Coast: Two good talents in Chris Eagan & David O'Leary could
> move up easily.
>
> WCTK: Stability there & with all due respect to the
> station,successful or not,there are those who balk at
> working country even if a slot opened up.
>
> LITE: Let's just say 2006 will be another year when Charlie
> Jefferds won't retire. If either he or Gary DeGraide left
> they would be hard positions to fill due to heritage.
>
> B101: Austin is probably the only weekender who would even
> be willing to take a full time job there & they're already
> tracked from out of town middays.
>
> Hot: I'm not that familiar with the station but if someone
> does leave the slot won't be filled by a generic jock
> willing to work anything from CHR to Hot Ac to Urban. They
> would be looking for a specific type of jock
>
> HJY: Not a station for a weekender to break into from the
> outside,Brangiforte notwithstanding. Even if there are drive
> time changes here the station would look far & wide for
> replacements with track records & they may already have a
> night team ready to move into days.
>
> So weekends are forever unless people want to just move to
> another area.
>
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-TheGuy...InTheRadio</P>
 
JR called me back within a few days...so needless to say he pays attention to talent and is responsive..i can't say the same for another station which i sent my tape to...oh well..they will go un-named
 
Hahaha with all due respect, I think every DJ ever to exist on this earth, both living and dead, responded to PRO's opening. No one got a call back though. Hahaha...see, I think they do it just to justify EEO regulations, but in all honesty, I don't think Pro has hired a non-friend in a few years now.


> JR called me back within a few days...so needless to say he
> pays attention to talent and is responsive..i can't say the
> same for another station which i sent my tape to...oh
> well..they will go un-named
>
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-TheGuy...InTheRadio</P>
 
To answer the original question:

Kerry Collins at PRO could make a big move. New Haven to Providence was fine for now.

I agree both David O'Leary and Chris Eagan could make a good move if they wanted. David has been around the block a few times already and Chris has weekended in Boston so I don't think going back to the market would be out of line if the right job came along.

Quinn and Cantara at HJY although they're on 3 stations now so this is probably profitable for them. Personally even with the effort they put into their show I don't see it as one Providence's nighttime rock audience wants but I don't think nights are the long term plan here. P&A regardless of how some consider them stale could make a big move but they wouldn't be as saleable as they are here. Everything else at the mighty HJY is ordinary and Charles is fading fast.

Tad Lemire and Ronnie Bridges at WCTK could make big moves. Bridges would have to show the same stability he's shown at WCTK if he does..

Christine Fox at Fun107 but's she's been there-done that.

That's it IMO and I don't hear any weekenders that jump out at me at movers. As far as the friend thing, live by politics die by politics. One programmer or OM change topples all dominoes.
 
Kerry Collins got in for a two reasons...he has worked with Bristol before (which seems to be the key to entering Wamponaog (sp??)...and secondly, as you can hear onair, he is the best person for the job!

Not only in the Providence market but up and down New England there are a bunch of weekenders that are ready for full-time. Don't get me wrong there are some jocks out there, full and part, that make me say "HOW THE F*** DID THEY GET A JOB!?"...but there are some part timers that are stuck in a rut because of politics.

My only point is that I am seeing that basically all markets out of New England are alot more open-minded...and alot less politics driven. It's what I've noticed in my adventures so far.


> To answer the original question:
>
> Kerry Collins at PRO could make a big move. New Haven to
> Providence was fine for now.
>
> I agree both David O'Leary and Chris Eagan could make a good
> move if they wanted. David has been around the block a few
> times already and Chris has weekended in Boston so I don't
> think going back to the market would be out of line if the
> right job came along.
>
> Quinn and Cantara at HJY although they're on 3 stations now
> so this is probably profitable for them. Personally even
> with the effort they put into their show I don't see it as
> one Providence's nighttime rock audience wants but I don't
> think nights are the long term plan here. P&A regardless of
> how some consider them stale could make a big move but they
> wouldn't be as saleable as they are here. Everything else at
> the mighty HJY is ordinary and Charles is fading fast.
>
> Tad Lemire and Ronnie Bridges at WCTK could make big moves.
> Bridges would have to show the same stability he's shown at
> WCTK if he does..
>
> Christine Fox at Fun107 but's she's been there-done that.
>
> That's it IMO and I don't hear any weekenders that jump out
> at me at movers. As far as the friend thing, live by
> politics die by politics. One programmer or OM change
> topples all dominoes.
>
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"GuyInTheRadio"

You're obviously interested in this thread because you've replied to everyone's individual comments and managed to turn it into a ProFM slam each time. I don't get why you'd want to work there anyway, but that's just me.

I've managed to get jobs and keep jobs and not be affiliated with any "good ol' boys network". But that's the nature of radio, if you don't like it and want a field where your hired strictly on your qualifications, go work for the Postal Service.

So before you cry "cronyism" in an attempt to de-value anyone in Providence who has gotten a job legitamately, maybe you should consider the possiblity that your tape just isn't that good.
 
I've said it before, that PRO isn't the only station like this, but it is the only station in the Providence market that comes to mind.

I'm not making this into a "Wahh they didnt hire me so they suck" thing. Honestly, when I sent my tape into them, IT DID SUCK!! I am just having a conversation about the topic at hand. I have talked to several other people in my industry and they all say the same thing. It's tough enough getting a job as it is...politics is even MORE difficult to break through.

I know exactly how the nature of radio is. I still want to work in it and I am willing (and maybe) moving FOR it...I'm all set with USPS...thanks though ;)

All and all, I'm not trying to devalue anyone in Providence. I will admit there are some people in SEVERAL MARKETS that should not hold the position they hold, but that is a matter of personal opinion. I think PRO has a great lineup...Cronyism or not! So lets not make this a finger pointing match of "whose bashing who".


> "GuyInTheRadio"
>
> You're obviously interested in this thread because you've
> replied to everyone's individual comments and managed to
> turn it into a ProFM slam each time. I don't get why you'd
> want to work there anyway, but that's just me.
>
> I've managed to get jobs and keep jobs and not be affiliated
> with any "good ol' boys network". But that's the nature of
> radio, if you don't like it and want a field where your
> hired strictly on your qualifications, go work for the
> Postal Service.
>
> So before you cry "cronyism" in an attempt to de-value
> anyone in Providence who has gotten a job legitamately,
> maybe you should consider the possiblity that your tape just
> isn't that good.
>
<P ID="signature">______________
-TheGuy...InTheRadio</P>
 
>
> Tad Lemire and Ronnie Bridges at WCTK could make big moves.
> Bridges would have to show the same stability he's shown at
> WCTK if he does..
>

RONNIE BRIDGES?!!!?! Obviously you don't know this market well enough.

ROBBY BRIDGES!
 
I must agree about Kerry Collins. He has infused PRO-FM nights with what it has been missing since the mid-90s or so -- energy and fun. I would definitely nominate him for best hire in the Providence market this year.
 
> RONNIE BRIDGES?!!!?! Obviously you don't know this market
> well enough.
>
> ROBBY BRIDGES!

It was 6am and I was groggy and I have more years in radio than you have autographs of deejays. There are ways to correct people and there are ways to correct people. You picked the wrong way. Didn't you once say you're 14 years old? That explains it.
 
Ouch. I think we've got an offensive penalty and a defensive penalty on that one.

Both penalties declined. Remains 1st down. Play nice people! CMON :)


> > RONNIE BRIDGES?!!!?! Obviously you don't know this market
> > well enough.
> >
> > ROBBY BRIDGES!
>
> It was 6am and I was groggy and I have more years in radio
> than you have autographs of deejays. There are ways to
> correct people and there are ways to correct people. You
> picked the wrong way. Didn't you once say you're 14 years
> old? That explains it.
>
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I wouldn't nominate him...bring him straight to the podium. LOL

PRO was missing the CHR feel...it felt like a Hot AC delivery with CHR music...Kerry is starting to change that and THANK GOD for that.


> I must agree about Kerry Collins. He has infused PRO-FM
> nights with what it has been missing since the mid-90s or so
> -- energy and fun. I would definitely nominate him for best
> hire in the Providence market this year.
>
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I beg to differ...i've heard the tape, and it's better than any of the current providence personalities...so your slam means nothing.
 
> To answer the original question:
>
> Kerry Collins at PRO could make a big move. New Haven to
> Providence was fine for now.
>
>

hey could you just explain that sentance alittle more? I know I'm a bit slow.
 
Because I haven't gotten a piece of the pie. Yet. Hahaha


> hey how come no one has said this yet....
>
> ::SINGS:: TOOOOO THE EAST SIDE!!
>
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Ted. Such a comedian.


> > To answer the original question:
> >
> > Kerry Collins at PRO could make a big move. New Haven to
> > Providence was fine for now.
> >
> >
>
> hey could you just explain that sentance alittle more? I
> know I'm a bit slow.
>
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