MSNBC To Air "The Stephanie Miller Show" Next Week

[FilmCritic3K]

"OH NO...LIBERAL TALK RADIO'S STILL ON THE AIR! WAH!!!"

Sing a new song. That one's getting old.

As long as there's an NPR affiliate in your area (or 2 or 3 or 6), you'll have liberal talk radio on the air. Which is why Air America and other attempts at liberal talk radio on AM failed. Why listen to that when you have taxpayer-funded, crystal clear signals on the air that bring you a full slate of lefty programming?

Was just in a staff meeting where an outspoke woman, who is always making liberal (ahem,"progressive") comments, just had to tell inform us that she heard about a certain merger "...on NPR." It was repeated a couple of times, so that we could all be impressed by her worldliness, intelligence and world-class intellect.

I didn't have the heart to tell her that I heard the same story, one day earlier, on my local AM 'EIB' affiliate...... ;D

Um, remember the November elections happened...are you still bitter that common sense and level-headed thinking won over corruption and cover-ups?

Yeah, Mara Liasson and her gang of liberals over at NPR sure are left-wing, huh? : Get real!

Also, get new talking points. Those 'NPR's liberal!" talking points were used by the right wing when Air America launched back in 2004. And last time I checked, they're on close to 70 stations and xm.

Don't hurt your back carrying all that water for Bush.

 

[BRNout]

Hahahaha!! Hey FilmCritic, you're funny! ;D

All I'll say is that SNL got NPR so right with their portrayal of "The Delicious Dish"! Highbrow dribble. Let's at least agree that Volvos and Prius' are much more likely to be tuned to NPR than 4 wheel drives are!

Oh well, I'd better get back to carrying water for that guy that I'm not especially happy with. I'm soooo tired....

 

[mostb1]

"OH NO...LIBERAL TALK RADIO'S STILL ON THE AIR! WAH!!!"

Sing a new song. That one's getting old.

As long as there's an NPR affiliate in your area (or 2 or 3 or 6), you'll have liberal talk radio on the air. Which is why Air America and other attempts at liberal talk radio on AM failed. Why listen to that when you have taxpayer-funded, crystal clear signals on the air that bring you a full slate of lefty programming?

Was just in a staff meeting where an outspoke woman, who is always making liberal (ahem,"progressive") comments, just had to tell inform us that she heard about a certain merger "...on NPR." It was repeated a couple of times, so that we could all be impressed by her worldliness, intelligence and world-class intellect.

I didn't have the heart to tell her that I heard the same story, one day earlier, on my local AM 'EIB' affiliate...... ;D

Um, remember the November elections happened...are you still bitter that common sense and level-headed thinking won over corruption and cover-ups?

Yeah, Mara Liasson and her gang of liberals over at NPR sure are left-wing, huh? : Get real!

Also, get new talking points. Those 'NPR's liberal!" talking points were used by the right wing when Air America launched back in 2004. And last time I checked, they're on close to 70 stations and xm.

Don't hurt your back carrying all that water for Bush.

The majority of Democrats that got elected were "Blue Dog" Democrats who ran to the RIGHT of Republicans on issues such as stopping illegal immigration, securing the borders, raising the minimum wage...

Somehow I recall a Democrat who got caught with cash in his freezer. Seems to me that happened just last year. So much for Republicans being corrupt.

Conservatism is still alive and well. The best days for Republicans have always followed their losses.

Bush is no conservative. He does not embrace true conservative values. It's all about big business and globalization for him for which he must be stopped.

The current Democrat congress IS MORE in the pockets of big business, unions and other lobbyists than the last congress. They can't even get a minimum bill passed. So much for working for the people.

Air America launced with a full slate of shows that had to be aired. Now, affilates are just picking a show or two from the network. A number of stations have dumped the format and it has moved to less quality signals. So, no, Air America is being heard LESS today than ever.

 

[mostb1]

BRN, I ONLY show hate towards someone if they show me hate first. I am NEVER the one to show hate for no reason because that would be wrong.

My unfair stereotypes you say? Um, both my statements on Dr. Laura, and Rush, are 100% No spin on it, no lies, no nothing....it is true. sorry you can't deal with that.

And Stephaniie Miller is doing just fine.

The trouble is, your posts imply that a disagreeable point of view (to your's) is an example of "showing you hate." The "joe six pack" comments about conservatives don't help to keep the discourse civilized. Sadly, this country is becoming so polarized that we can't even have a reasonable discussion without things getting very nasty. And it's getting worse.

The original point I was attempting to make was that AAR was not successful because liberals have their views represented by (taxpayer funded) NPR. They don't need to go to AM for such programming, because they have the non-comms.

Personally, I do not like my tax dollars going to fund what's on NPR any more than you would like having YOUR tax dollars fund those 'conservative' talk stations. But, that's not the case here, is it? Nonetheless, that's where most of Stephanie Miller's potential audience is. Meaning that, in the morning, they're tuned to "All Things Considered" and not to MSNBC.

Not only should the government not be "giving" money outright to public broadcasting but donations and grants from individuals and corporations should NOT be tax deductible. With the amount of sponsorships on public radio and tv, they can easily move to a commercial model. They're almost doing that now.

 

[formeraa]

Wow, cash in the freezer! Wow, that was really hurtful to soooooooooooooo many people. On the other hand, the Republicans have the BLOOD of thousands of our young, brave soldiers and hundreds of thousands of average, law-abiding Iraqi citizens on their hands. :'(

 

[mostb1]

Wow, cash in the freezer! Wow, that was really hurtful to soooooooooooooo many people. On the other hand, the Republicans have the BLOOD of thousands of our young, brave soldiers and hundreds of thousands of average, law-abiding Iraqi citizens on their hands. :'(

And which Democrats voted to authorize the war? Hmmm, seems like most of them. Shall we start naming them. Let's start with Hillary Clinton...

As for Iraq, we've saved hundreds of thousands of lives that Saddam would have killed. A great, noble action.

 

[FilmCritic3K]

Wow, cash in the freezer! Wow, that was really hurtful to soooooooooooooo many people. On the other hand, the Republicans have the BLOOD of thousands of our young, brave soldiers and hundreds of thousands of average, law-abiding Iraqi citizens on their hands. :'(

Indeed. And it looks like it's subpoena time for Rice.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-04-25-congress-subpoenas_N.htm

Don't worry mostb1 and the rest - the story's up on NewsMax, so you can read the article in the comfort and safety of the right-wing zone without reading that "liberal rag" USA Today

And then when you're done, you can watch McCain being schooled.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/04/25/senator-mccain-on-the-daily-show/

 

[FilmCritic3K]

Hahahaha!! Hey FilmCritic, you're funny! ;D

All I'll say is that SNL got NPR so right with their portrayal of "The Delicious Dish"! Highbrow dribble. Let's at least agree that Volvos and Prius' are much more likely to be tuned to NPR than 4 wheel drives are!

Oh well, I'd better get back to carrying water for that guy that I'm not especially happy with. I'm soooo tired....

Dry as toast delivery is dead-on about NPR. The few times I've listened it's been exactly that, and I haven't listened to it in over a year or so. If NPR is liberal, than The Heritage Foundation is a Grateful Dead concert.

And I agree about the Volvo/Prius thing.

 

[HHH]

While it is nearly impossible to have any news service be 100% down the middle, NPR--contrary to stereotypes--is actually pretty balanced.

Listen any morning to "Morning Edition" and you will generally hear two different points of view presented by two different guests or soundbites.

Dry? Maybe.

But if what you call "dry" means without somebody yelling, calling one of the guests "a representative of the loony left" or "another of George Bush's puppets", or dealing in kindergarden stereotypes, then I'll take "dry" any day.

Also: As someone who travels alot, I like how NPR covers world events. You never hear talk radio deal with world events unless the events have an direct impact (usually negative) on the USA.

 

[glen0928]

I agree that NPR is fairly balanced. Their coverage of world events is outstanding. Some people just need to travel some more. It's a big world out there.

 

[ajhenderson]

And Stephaniie Miller is doing just fine.

Stephanie Miller has HORRIBLE ratings. If you want your station to FAIL hire her. She was a failure at KABC in Los Angeles, her ratings at KTZN in Los Angeles were so bad the format had to be flipped and she is currently the lowest rated daytime host on another failure of a talk station, KTLK, in her home market, Los Angeles which currently has its lowest ratings in its history.

Stephanie Miller has been losing affiliates. She's down 1/3 since she hit the airwaves in syndication. Not one does well with her show. NOT ONE.

I think the entire lineup at KTZN was the reason for its failure. As to KTLK, she is the #2 morning talk show in demos in LA and OC, ahead of McIntyre/KABC, Ingraham/KRLA, and Beck/KLAA (of course, Bill Handel is #1, cuming higher than some syndicated shows from major distributors).

As to Stephanie's loss of clearances, that's likely because of stations dropping the format. She had 3s in P25-54 and M25-54 on WTPG/Columbus, OH, for example, when they flipped because the rest of the lineup was crap. Similar in many other cases. And, while Beck and Ingraham do have many more clears nationally (which you would expect), Miller is still on in 5 of the top 10 markets, which, considering only 6 of the top 10 markets have progressive talkers and the 6th is wall-to-wall AAR, isn't bad.

 

[formeraa]

I agree that NPR is fairly balanced. Their coverage of world events is outstanding. Some people just need to travel some more. It's a big world out there.

Glen, you're right on the money. NPR is the only true US coverage of world events.

It beats getting your "news" from Rush "Druggie" Limbaugh or Faux News commentators (e.g. Sean Hannity or Bill O'Reilly or Fox & Friends). It seems like the conservatives never grew up. They always want to beat up "the kid who has a different opinion". This country was founded on a diversity of opinions. Today, from the President on down, the conservatives totally disrespect differing points of view ("don't wanna hear it"). As if my personal opposition to the War on Iraq might cause our troops to be killed! How dare they!

 

[Morgan Wick]

While it is nearly impossible to have any news service be 100% down the middle, NPR--contrary to stereotypes--is actually pretty balanced.

Listen any morning to "Morning Edition" and you will generally hear two different points of view presented by two different guests or soundbites.

I'd like to see some news network adopt a show that could be described as "PTI for the news", with a liberal and conservative debating topics in the news for a half-hour to an hour with an interview or two thrown in. (Does Alan Colmes even exist?)

 

[formeraa]

While it is nearly impossible to have any news service be 100% down the middle, NPR--contrary to stereotypes--is actually pretty balanced.

Listen any morning to "Morning Edition" and you will generally hear two different points of view presented by two different guests or soundbites.

I'd like to see some news network adopt a show that could be described as "PTI for the news", with a liberal and conservative debating topics in the news for a half-hour to an hour with an interview or two thrown in. (Does Alan Colmes even exist?)

That would work for me as well. I always liked "Crossfire" on CNN because I thought that it was actually fair and balanced.

 

[BRNout]

I agree that NPR is fairly balanced. Their coverage of world events is outstanding. Some people just need to travel some more. It's a big world out there.

Glen, you're right on the money. NPR is the only true US coverage of world events.

It beats getting your "news" from Rush "Druggie" Limbaugh or Faux News commentators (e.g. Sean Hannity or Bill O'Reilly or Fox & Friends). It seems like the conservatives never grew up. They always want to beat up "the kid who has a different opinion". This country was founded on a diversity of opinions. Today, from the President on down, the conservatives totally disrespect differing points of view ("don't wanna hear it"). As if my personal opposition to the War on Iraq might cause our troops to be killed! How dare they!

You're right - the constant drumbeat of how "Bush sucks, Bush sucks" that comes from the news services of most major networks + NPR/PBS is far more interesting than any of the editorial programming that you've listed.

It's amazing because liberals constantly confuse editorial shows that skew conservative (Hannity, Rush, etc.) with the actual news offered by the same outlets. Fox News' anchors are every bit as good at news gathering as any of the others - and they are amongst the few news services who do not seem to have a strong leftward tilt. ABC News (Charlie, not Diane) is also close to being a middle ground.

NBC, CBS, CNN, and PBS are much more likely to frame stories in an very unfavorable light toward Republicans. And, it's been true for a long time - only its more true now. To state that such coverage is some sort of counterbalance to commentary programming (like Limbaugh) makes for a very poor analogy. And, the personal attacks on Limbaugh are unnecessary, by the way. Talk about being vitriolic!

Look, at least Rush and Hannity are honest about their political leanings. And, I'll toss Stephanie Miller in with them - she's also a commentator and not a reporter. Also honest about where she stands. When you tune in to those shows, you know what you're going to get. And that is unlike so many network talking heads like Katie, Barbra Wawa, Chris Matthews, and a full slate of others who pretend to be telling it straight while delivering every story through a liberal lens. The same folks who immediately tied the tragedy at VT to the need for stricter gun control. They did this by midday! We didn't even know what happened yet, for cryin' out loud - let alone what effect the current gun regs had on the crime! That's just one example of thousands.

When I tune to the news, I want reporting and I do not want to be subjected to manipulation. At least I can read between the lines when I see a report on TV that 'doesn't sound right'. Sadly, many other people do not do this.

Those who make comments about conservatives being unsophisticated, uneducated, sheltered, or that they come from states that have nothing to offer are just showing THEIR ignorance, bigotry and personal bias. And, I am seeing that many of the comments on this thread are oozing with that attitude. And, about me at least, each one would be wrong on every count. That goes for many people that I know who share even more right-leaning tendencies. Most are college-educated family people who want their kids to grow up in a better world than they did - and not in some social freak show that's brought to you by a bunch of THC-addled former 60's hippies.

Just remember that, for every college professor who drove his Volvo down to the polling place in the last election to vote for the most liberal of candidates, two high school dropouts showed up to vote for the same guy. I wonder what that tells you...

 

[raccoonradio]

Agreed strongly!
Goldberg points out "Fox Derangement Syndrome" in his new book--libs don't even notice that Fox has
liberals on regularly. And they consider Colmes a "lapdog"...

 

[raccoonradio]

>>So, no, Air America is being heard LESS today than ever.

Prog talk stations (AAR and otherwise): 42*
Rush affiliates: 600 or so
The market has spoken. There may be a future for libtalk, perhaps with the changing of the guard
at AAR and Westwood One selling ads for them (hint: don't disparage Wal-Mart. Why would they
advertise with you if they did? "Corporate America sucks! We'll be right back after this...er...
public service announcement...")

*--left leaning blog Talking Radio counts the number of PT stations at 42. "On February 1, 2006, coverage of liberal talk radio peaked. There were 64 stations carrying three or more liberal hosts daily.Since that time it has been all down hill for lib talk. In the past year, the format has gained one station and lost 23. "

 

[SeanMGilbow]

Am I missing something?

Supposedly, the topic of discussion was Stephanie Miller appearing on MSNBC next week.

Let's keep things relevant here.

First, Stephanie has extensive television experience under her belt, including co-hosting CNBC's "Equal Time" with Bay Buchanan and her own late-night talk show. (Of course, she will admit to it all being disastrous.)

Second, she is a comedian. Everything else takes a back seat, including political commentary.

Lastly, and most importantly, she is more entertaining that the bulk of this thread. As her regular listeners will testify, we much prefer Stephanie's continuously fascinating discourse on "The Big Beaver Corridor" over the rants of a Raccoon.

Lighten up, guys. Don't make me have Squeezy McFeelpants come after you.

Or perhaps K to the J to the I-L in the hizzy.

 

[dampier]

The majority of this thread is completely off topic. This isn't the talk radio board, so the nonsensical remarks about how Miller, who is actually gaining more stations than she has lost (almost entirely because of AAR affiliates flipping to sports - and she's not a part of AAR), and has been the #1 show on many of the stations she is on. It's hosts like Miller who are likely to appeal to the next generation of talk radio audiences because her comedy is not rooted in racial humor, killing people, or reading talking points and carrying water. It's the Daily Show for radio. Comparing a show host that has been on national radio since the late 1980s with a show that just passed two years on the air is also pointless. (I personally think Limbaugh will retire from radio within five years - this kind of talk is not a growth industry any longer.)

MSNBC is rotating a bunch of hosts around, and Miller has said on her show she really doesn't want the MSNBC gig. One of the problems with this programming is that it's RADIO programming, and it looks like it on television. It reminds me of C-SPAN when they took cameras into studios. It's not compelling television.

My personal opinion, and I am a big fan of Stephanie, is that MSNBC needs to remember it's in the NEWS business and should be airing NEWS programming instead of talk shows, Dateline reruns, prison documentaries, and other such nonsense. It's NBC News for pete's sake, you think you could leverage that!

Fox News is not an important name in the news business -- they actually don't spend a lot on newsgathering. The reason Fox attracts its audience of ancient-demo-skewers that advertisers don't want is that they are airing radio talk shows on television as well for much of their broadcast day. O'Reilly, Hannity, et al., aren't doing news - they are doing talk shows skewed to a conservative audience. I don't personally have a problem that they do this, and their "fair and balanced" line has actually made them a parody of themselves, but I wish cable news channels would actually deliver more news and less opinion in general. Start a second cable network for talk shows, but leave the news -in- cable news.

 

[dhett]

...but I wish cable news channels would actually deliver more news and less opinion in general. Start a second cable network for talk shows, but leave the news -in- cable news.

My, my! Something we actually agree on!

Unfortunately, opinion journalism is a lot like infomercials: horrible television, and annoying as all get out, but they somehow, they manage to attract eyeballs and generate revenue.