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MSNBC to drop some of its talk-show lineup in favor of more taped reports

CrankyYankee said:
"...the network will apparently be dropping some of its talk-show lineup in favor of more taped reports. That change is likely to take place as soon as the next couple of months. "
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It's encouraging to see that MSNBC is finally catching on to what CNN has forgotten: you're a news channel, do the news.

Both networks were in such a hurry to become clones of Faux News with a bunch of Bush sycophants like Joe "Dead Intern" Scarborough that they didn't realize there was a limited market for such stuff. With even Headline News just becoming more right-wing propaganda in prime time now, people need a place to go for straightforward news, and this gives MSNBC the opening it's needed since its inception.

Of course, the forthcoming dropping of the "MS" from the name will also probably help. A rebranded "NBC News Channel" has potential. Let's see if they can carry through with it.
 
pabsungenis said:
With even Headline News just becoming more right-wing propaganda in prime time now...
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::) Let us know when you know what you're talking about. I presume the wait will be quite lengthy.
 
network said:
pabsungenis said:
With even Headline News just becoming more right-wing propaganda in prime time now...
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::) Let us know when you know what you're talking about. I presume the wait will be quite lengthy.
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Two words: Glenn Beck.

Can you deny he's anything other than a right-wing cheerleader? Certainly not "news."

There's a dearth of actual news on prime time cable today. Anything that brings news back to the screen is welcome.
 
pabsungenis said:
Two words: Glenn Beck.

Can you deny he's anything other than a right-wing cheerleader? Certainly not "news."

There's a dearth of actual news on prime time cable today. Anything that brings news back to the screen is welcome.
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I was waiting for you -- or anyone to point this out. It's ONE SHOW out of a 24-hour broadcast day. Yeah, it's repeated a few times, but so is the other shows on FNC and MSNBC. That is irrelevant.

ONE show hardly makes them a "cheerleader." Plus, it's not a "news" program, just like O'Reilly, Hannity and Colmes, etc. are not news programs.

Again, please educate yourself.
 
network said:
I was waiting for you -- or anyone to point this out. It's ONE SHOW out of a 24-hour broadcast day. Yeah, it's repeated a few times, but so is the other shows on FNC and MSNBC. That is irrelevant.

ONE show hardly makes them a "cheerleader." Plus, it's not a "news" program, just like O'Reilly, Hannity and Colmes, etc. are not news programs.
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That's my point. The "news" channels have stopped showing news, and now there's a backlash against it. When Headline News, the last bastion of prime time news on cable, cancelled news for more talking heads, pontificators, and bloviators, it didn't matter to me that they replaced it with right wing cheerleaders, left wing cheerleaders, or anyone else. You're a news channel, show news!

MSNBC dumping most of their third-rate lineup (Rita? Dead Intern?) for news is a good sign.
 
I feel that NBC should have given up on MSNBC and just replace it with another channel like Weather Plus, or maybe Comcast should replace MSNBC or move it to digital cable on all comcast cable markets and put ESPNU on in its place. MSNBC will never be number 1, NBC should know that and just throw in the towel on MSNBC.
 
pabsungenis said:
MSNBC dumping most of their third-rate lineup (Rita? Dead Intern?) for news is a good sign.
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I suspect Joe Scarborough is the first to go. Joe's show is produced from offices in Pensicola, Florida, which is an added expense to MSNBC. (Jesse Ventura's short lived program on MSNBC was cancelled because of this - Jesse's show was done from Minneapolis.)

Tucker Carlson's show could remotely survive only because of it's late hour, but is also looks good for the trash heap.

I don't think Rita Cosby is going anywhere anytime soon. Rita's show is a news show, even though most of it is dedicated to missing vacationers and the like. It seems to me that her show fits the mold of what Dan Abrams and management wants in MSNBC primetime.

MSNBC is not going anywhere anytime soon. Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann's shows are starting to beat CNN. As long as Fox keeps pumping out news for Republicans, I don't think the situation is going to change much in the short term.
 
jal41 said:
I don't think Rita Cosby is going anywhere anytime soon. Rita's show is a news show, even though most of it is dedicated to missing vacationers and the like.
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You just contradicted your statement that her show is a news show.
 
jal41 said:
MSNBC is not going anywhere anytime soon. Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann's shows are starting to beat CNN. As long as Fox keeps pumping out news for Republicans, I don't think the situation is going to change much in the short term.
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If the channel stays in 3rd place, it will go off the air. You can't stay in 3rd forever and still be on the air.
 
If she stays they should just allow her to sit on camera and move her lips, have an off-camera voice to make noises in her stead.
 
pabsungenis said:
MSNBC dumping most of their third-rate lineup (Rita? Dead Intern?) for news is a good sign.
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Sorry, but I don't think long-form magazine-style programming five nights a week should really count as "news." The NYTimes article went on to say that most staffers at Dateline, which has been cut to one night per week on Saturdays as a lead in to primetime reruns, will be reassigned to this new project.

Olbermann, yes. Stone Phillips standing in front of a chromakey introducing moldy months-old reports fronted by Keith Morrison, not so much.

As for Rita Cosby: I had my fill of her on one of her first nights on the air when, during Hurricane Katrina coverage, when she couldn't pull her blond-headed, sway-backed, cheese-grater voiced mug away from sniffing for Natalie Holloway's bloated corpse long enough to care that an American city was dying.

A weeks-old missing-white-woman story vs a major US catastrophy. Hmm...
 
NBC could do something really radical in cable news and actually have a 24/7 all news channel. What a concept! News all day and all night, no idiots ranting political blather daily, no annoying woman yammering on about some stupid missing young telegenic white blond woman, etc.

Hell they would be a lot better simulcasting or repeating some of their o&o or affilate newscasts than the garbage they show now. It would also be a lot more intresting, too.
 
toby said:
NBC could do something really radical in cable news and actually have a 24/7 all news channel. What a concept! News all day and all night, no idiots ranting political blather daily, no annoying woman yammering on about some stupid missing young telegenic white blond woman, etc.

Hell they would be a lot better simulcasting or repeating some of their o&o or affilate newscasts than the garbage they show now. It would also be a lot more intresting, too.
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Or perhaps MSNBC should go to a "headline news"-like format during prime-time (or at least after Olbermann) to take advantage of what CNN's Headline News abandoned. Doesn't hurt to try.
 
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