multiband webcast proceessing suggestions

[Bojcha]

With Rustonium there is no mistakes

 

[Robert Bass]

Thanks guys!

Heard a couple of things I didn't like, but not sure how to fine tune it. I heard the levels pulling down on one Journey song, for instance. I need to run Bette Davis Eyes through it to see what happens.

R

 

[oldiesstation]

try zenith,i think it's a good stream preset..not too hard,not too soft.

 

[Robert Bass]

Holy $%*&! I just heard Bette Davis Eyes and it passed the processing with flying colors!

BTW the sound card running the audio is a Realtek AC97. Not exactly a high end card, but it is all I can afford at this time. This isn't exactly a money maker operation.

R

 

[Robert Bass]

try zenith,i think it's a good stream preset..not too hard,not too soft.

K, I'll give it a try at some point.

R

 

[Robert Bass]

zenith @ 9:39 PM Central

 

[Bojcha]

"Zenith" is totally opposite preset then "Rustonium"

 

[Robert Bass]

OK for laughs, Reference Settings at 9:59.

R

 

[Robert Bass]

And back to Rustonium at 11:15 PM

R

 

[Robert Bass]

And back to Rustonium at 11:15 PM

R

OK I've decided to try 40 on the Power side. It is a little more compressed than just limiting, but I think the consistency of the volume levels makes it worth it. How's spectral balance to you guys?

R

 

[kes11]

You will be hard pressed to find a preset in the current BBP-Live version that is better than Rustonium. But, with that being said, all of them sound decent straight out of the box and can sound great with a little tweaking. It all comes down to what sound you want and what pleases your ear.

 

[richard.vanderveen]

Try Reference Heavy. Fool around with it a little, and you'll probably like it... Interesting to see somebody else go through te same process I went through ;D

I heard the levels pulling down on one Journey song, for instance.

That's the only thing I am still struggling with as far as BL is concerned... Once I have a preset where I want it, I keep hearing the AGC (I think?) And that's where Breakaway Broadcast has an extra edge due to the clippers. I run BBP on the air and BL on the web. FM is pretty slammed, stream is just the opposite.

 

[Brian Bowers]

2:15-2:39 PM CDT Personally, I think this is perfect right now. Everything. Spectral balance to me is exactly where I would have it (that to me is sometimes the hardest to get right). This is what I like. Compression and limiting sounds good too. Competitive without the fatigue. Not as open as when we first started out, but that's OK. I could listen to this setting for a long time. Personally, I like to be able to hear some of the original mix in my processing settings (when management allows). I can still hear that in your setting. Stuff that was mixed heavy, stays heavy, and material that was mixed open, stays somewhat open.

Now to programming. I've heard mostly soft AC. Is that your goal Robert? Nothing wrong with that. I am just asking. College radio was big in the 80's and cranked out many hits. There was some great dance tracks in the 80's too. Personally, I could handle an 80's channel that plays everything from the 80's, even country stuff. Maybe that is not your vision. Nothing wrong with that. Still, I love this processing setting. Thanks for the demo of Breakaway.

 

[Robert Bass]

My programming goal is a bit of everything. Buit sometimes my scheduling software picks songs in a similar pattern. I.E. sometimes a few rock leaning songs in a row, then a few softs in a row, etc. In reality I should be going back and reviewing a schedule after it has been generated and break up these situations. But I admit I'm a little lazy sometimes.

Here's what played in the 1:00 PM hour:

24-Nov-2012 13:02:14 Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band - The Little Drummer Boy {3:27}
24-Nov-2012 13:05:39 Van Halen - Jump {3:51}
24-Nov-2012 13:09:27 INXS - New Sensation {3:38}
24-Nov-2012 13:13:05 Donna Summer - This Time I Know It's For Real {3:24}
24-Nov-2012 13:16:29 Madonna - Borderline {3:47}
24-Nov-2012 13:20:13 Dexys Midnight Runners - Come On Eileen {4:08}
24-Nov-2012 13:24:18 Jon Anderson - Easier Said Then Done {3:27}
24-Nov-2012 13:27:43 Rod Stewart - Infatuation {5:08}
24-Nov-2012 13:32:48 Eddie Money - Take Me Home Tonight {3:27}
24-Nov-2012 13:36:12 Pointer Sisters - Slow Hand {3:45}
24-Nov-2012 13:39:55 Rick Springfield - Don't Talk To Strangers {2:46}
24-Nov-2012 13:42:39 Heart - What About Love {3:37}
24-Nov-2012 13:46:13 Timbuk 3 - All I Want For Christmas {3:20}
24-Nov-2012 13:49:31 ZZ Top - Sleeping Bag {4:00}
24-Nov-2012 13:53:28 Simple Minds - Alive And Kicking {4:40}
24-Nov-2012 13:58:06 Paul Young - Everytime You Go Away {4:09}

Probably a little rock heavy in that hour.

Glad you're enjoying the Breakaway sample! I think it's much better than what I was using prior to Breakaway. I was using one of the DAB presets in MLB4. It was decent processing but it had a lot of trouble with songs like Bette Davis Eyes, With Or Without You, Money For Nothing and Islands In The Stream. These are classic multiband processing test songs and I think Breakaway is handling them much better.

I'll leave the current settings as-is for now, and we'll see if the weekday audience notices anything.

Thanks again guys for all the help! Feel free to point out anything else you may notice.

R

 

[oldiesstation]

What did you think of the Motor City preset?

 

[Robert Bass]

What did you think of the Motor City preset?

I can't remember now if I tried that one or not. I may give it a test sometime later tonight.

R

 

[Tom Wells]

I'm using one of the very early Breakaway Broadcast versions and it plays well with a wide range of music.
I first tried zenith, then dance, but quickly settled on French Kiss with most settings near 30%.

I tried the stream and it sounds well controlled, but my hearing must be getting more and more sensitive.
Sounds much better on headphones than the laptop speakers.
On the wee speakers, there seems a bit much in the 1 to 2 k range that doesn't stick out as much on the headphones.
That said, I think most FM stations ( and particularly AC) are too bright.
But I think they are mostly played at low levels by listeners, and the "excess" helps define the music better
at lower volumes, where the bass may well disappear.

The bass here is good, but seems to have the "punch" sucked out too quickly.
To my taste it's too controlled and boxed up. It does achieve a very uniform 80s FM sound.

 

[kes11]

Try Reference Heavy. Fool around with it a little, and you'll probably like it... Interesting to see somebody else go through te same process I went through ;D

I heard the levels pulling down on one Journey song, for instance.

That's the only thing I am still struggling with as far as BL is concerned... Once I have a preset where I want it, I keep hearing the AGC (I think?) And that's where Breakaway Broadcast has an extra edge due to the clippers. I run BBP on the air and BL on the web. FM is pretty slammed, stream is just the opposite.

BBP-Live does have a "ducking" problem and hopefully the new version will have a clipper so it won't be an issue at all. But you can minimize 95% of it by decreasing range, increasing compression, slowing down speed, decreasing final drive (for clarity - I don't care about loudness I have a volume control ) and allowing for allot of EQ headroom.

Try Rustonium:
Final drive -1.5
Range 45
Power 90
Speed 35
EQ Headroom 11.25

Those are aggressive settings I admit, but to me after spending over a year tweaking almost all of the settings, those get me the sound I want.

 

[Robert Bass]

This is why I feel like trying to master processing is both a joy and a pain. You just never know what one little change will do.

R

 

[Robert Bass]

OK, made some adjustments at 8:30 PM Central.

R