MundoFox TX market possibilities

[easttxtv]

OK, they've already announced Odessa, Lubbock, Abilene, and San Angelo. Meanwhile, the rest of the state....

So if MyNet in Houston and DFW isn't flipping or re-arranged, and no Fox/MyNet subs open up in either place, what's left? All DFW has left is LPs (the announced Miami station is an LP, BTW) to choose from (sorry, not as familiar with Houston's market)... the only full-power that wasn't already affiliated with something in DFW was KTAQ (now KTXD) before London snapped it up to eventually flip it to MeTV. Austin's Fox station is an O/O so it won't have a sub opportunity there either.

Would any of the non-O/O Fox stations around the state consider MundoFox for a sub? The only non-major-net stations in Tyler/Longview seem to be mostly religiousness, and KFXK/51-KFXL/30 are the only major-net stations in the market without a Spanish-language net for a sub there. MundoFox might have a problem in a market like Sherman/Denison, as both stations there are pretty much loaded down (main/subs).

 

[purpledevil]

In Houston, 61.3 has been blank since Liberman turned it on. I guess that would be a possibility. Maybe 39.3, which was abandoned by Universal Sports. Obviously, Tribune made a deal with NBC for sports coverage so it wouldn't be unprecedented for them to carry a competitor's offering.

 

[LibertyNT]

I wouldn't rule out FOX putting it on KDFI 27.2

 

[X-Man]

Looks like Bounce TV is going to take up residency on 27.2 according to www.bouncetv.com/find unless it goes on 27.3 or on KDFW on 4.2.

 

[Mediafrog+]

In Houston, 61.3 has been blank since Liberman turned it on. I guess that would be a possibility. Maybe 39.3, which was abandoned by Universal Sports. Obviously, Tribune made a deal with NBC for sports coverage so it wouldn't be unprecedented for them to carry a competitor's offering.

Houston already has six full-power Spanish language stations carrying Univision, Telefutura, Telemundo, Azteca America, Estrella TV and Mega TV. There's also Multimedios on one of the LPTV's.

I have the feeling Fox O&O KTXH (currently MyNet) won't be flipping, else we would have heard about it already.

Unless the owners of true independent KUBE/57 are dissatisfied with the station's current incarnation (it was formerly Azteca America and later TuVision) it appears MundoFox will wind up on a subchannel or LPTV. I expect to see something pop up on KIAH 39.3 fairly soon, plus the two new African-American targeted services (Kin and Soul of the South) will certainly find a home in Houston. So anybody's guess as to where MundoFox will go. Maybe it really does wind up as a .2 of KRIV or KTXH.

 

[JHBrandt]

Looks like Bounce TV is going to take up residency on 27.2 according to www.bouncetv.com/find unless it goes on 27.3 or on KDFW on 4.2.

This is an inference from RabbitEars.info data, but it looks like KDFI/27 uses the same "splicer" that KDFW/4 and other Fox O/O stations use. If so there's no room for a 27.3. (Yes, theoretically you could squeeze two subchannels in; but they'd end up looking worse than This TV on 33.3. Ugh!)

4.2 would work, but Fox would then be forgoing Mobile/Hand-held transmissions in the D/FW area. M/H isn't taking off as rapidly as I'd expected, though; so they may be OK with that decision. (It's odd how unpredictable new technologies are. I guess that's what makes the world interesting, though.)

Since KTXD/47 isn't broadcasting any HD, 47.4 would be a possibility for anyone looking for full-power bandwidth.

 

[captex]

in austin, it would probably be best to have foxmundo on fox's o/o ktbc 7.2. lin owner of 14,36 and operates 54 has univision's telefutura lptv antenna on one of thier transmitters. keye 42.2 telemundo, kvue 24.2 estrella. there's the lptv chs. 11 kqux, 17 kvat, 20 kadf, 23, k???? 24 kxlk, 32 kgbs ch 29 is ut's low pwr tv

 

[Tim-In-Houston]

I think KUVM-34.1 is a possibility in Houston. Currently, the .1 is blank while .2 is carrying the RTV network and .3 is infomercials and .4 is AMGTV (according to wikipedia). But the station doesn't provide a data stream with program information, so it's hard to verify (other than .2, which has an RTV bug).

If Newscorp offered the affiliation to KWHY in LA (rather than flipping KCOP), the idea of them flipping the other MNTV duopolies (New York, DC, Chicago and Houston, elsewhere) is highly unlikely.

 

[yragha]

My Family TV is coming to 34.1...

or so was posted on rabbit ears I do believe.

 

[silverthree]

I don't see them landing on the primary channel (.1) of a full power station in the RGV unless they go with a Mexico station like XHTAM, which seems unlikely. Several of the low power digitals though cover (or are projected to cover) a good swath of the region from Mission to Brownsville. For example: KNUC. This station is not currently on the air. Neither is XHTAM's digital signal for that matter.


KNUC's projected coverage area:
http://maps.google.com/?q=http://tr...freq=0.0&contour=51&city=MCALLEN&state=TX.kml

 

[fredcantu]

Televisa and Fox have other partnerships in Mexico. They nixed their English language border blasters in the Valley, Laredo and San Diego because the Fox affiliation had just gotten too expensive. But MundoFox may be more to their liking, especially since they can easily combo sales and operations with their existing stations along the border.

 

[gbranch]

The only non-major-net stations in Tyler/Longview seem to be mostly religiousness, and KFXK/51-KFXL/30 are the only major-net stations in the market without a Spanish-language net for a sub there.

Tyler-Longview already has 3 Spanish language subs, so I am not sure if the market would support a fourth. It's easy to forget KCEB, which is sitting there with a single 480i feed. There is no need for HD on 54.1 as, if I understand correctly, CW+ does not provide an HD feed. KCEB could be loaded down with subs and nobody would know the difference. I, for one, would be happy to see KYTX jettison one or both subs, as the PQ on 19.1 suffers greatly during fast motion sports. The CBS NCAA tournament games and NFL football on KYTX are almost unwatchable. London could get the Mundofox affiliation, and put it on KCEB along with ME-TV and Azteca. Four 480i feeds would not be a problem for KCEB, and they have a decent, but not great, signal.

It would be difficult for KFXK to add Mundofox and keep KLPN as I understand the Fox splicers have a high, fixed bandwidth requirement for the Fox network feed and do not allow flexibility to add a lot of subs. I think that KFXK would have to replace KLPN with Mundofox on 51.2.

Then, there is KLPN-LD 47.1, which is now on the air in Longview, and KTPN-LD 48.1, which has a CP to go on the air in Tyler, but these low powered stations have limited signal range when compared with KFXK. So putting Mundofox there as a sub or even as the .1 channel would work but limit their potentially audience. Right now, no one is sure what will happen with KLPN on 51.2, 47.1, or 48.1 once Tyler's 48.1 comes on the air.

 

[kevin120]

KAZD is out of the picture! They are going HD with Azteca America soon according to a Time Warner Cable legal notice posted today! Also KYAZ will probrably be in same boat with Azteca America HD as they are both owned by the same company.

 

[fredcantu]

I have heard that some stations do widescreen 480i which is technically not HDTV but "DVD quality."

 

[kevin120]

I am sure that KAZD is going full HD I don't think TWC would add a 16x9 480i feed of Azteca America. Also it is noted that Azteca America last year announced that they are going HD in a year which is now. Almost all of Azteca Americas programming is shot in HD so it should not be a problem getting the channel to HD status.

 

[arnoldevns]

KAZD going HD would not preclude them from adding MundoFox. (keep in mind, I don't think they're going to add it)
KMPX would seem like a better option for MundoFox. I know they have Estrella now, but they could put it on 29.2 instead of that weird Immigration paid programming they have now.

 

[JHBrandt]

I have heard that some stations do widescreen 480i which is technically not HDTV but "DVD quality."

Technically, DVD quality is 480p. Better than 480i but not as good as 720p/1080i, I've heard it called "Enhanced Definition."

I think the ATSC standard supports 480p. I've never seen a station use it, but that doesn't mean there isn't someone somewhere that does. (Trip, do you know of any?)

We do have several local subchannels using 480i with a 16:9 aspect ratio. 5.2, 8.2 and 8.3 for starters.

 

[tripinva]

No, not aware of any.

- Trip

 

[gbranch]

Technically, DVD quality is 480p. Better than 480i but not as good as 720p/1080i, I've heard it called "Enhanced Definition."

I think the ATSC standard supports 480p. I've never seen a station use it, but that doesn't mean there isn't someone somewhere that does. (Trip, do you know of any?)

We do have several local subchannels using 480i with a 16:9 aspect ratio. 5.2, 8.2 and 8.3 for starters.

Back in the late 90's, early 2000's there were some televisions sold as "EDTV" or Enhanced Definition TV's. They supported up to 480p, and were sold primarily to be used with progressive scan DVD players. EDTV's were a less expensive alternative to a full 720p/1080i HDTV, which were still quite pricey around the turn of the century. I believe that most, if not all, of the EDTV's were CRT based.

 

[JHBrandt]

Back in the late 90's, early 2000's there were some televisions sold as "EDTV" or Enhanced Definition TV's. They supported up to 480p, and were sold primarily to be used with progressive scan DVD players. EDTV's were a less expensive alternative to a full 720p/1080i HDTV, which were still quite pricey around the turn of the century. I believe that most, if not all, of the EDTV's were CRT based.

Makes sense. Low-cost flat-screen technologies like LCD weren't quite up to big-screen snuff back then, and large CRTs that supported 720+ scan lines were pricey and mostly relegated to special markets (like monitors for desktop publishing or CAD/CAM systems, IIRC). I wouldn't be surprised if they made some "EDTV/DVD" combos back then too, although they would've been a hassle to repair when the DVD drive inevitably needed replacing