https://www.nbcnews.com/news/all/murdochs-plan-new-vision-tv-new-fox-n923621
Could the Simpsons or Family Guy eventually move to a Disney platform?
Could the Simpsons or Family Guy eventually move to a Disney platform?
-
Get involved.
We want your input!
Apply for Membership and join the conversations about everything related to broadcasting.
After we receive your registration, a moderator will review it. After your registration is approved, you will be permitted to post.
If you use a disposable or false email address, your registration will be rejected.
After your membership is approved, please take a minute to tell us a little bit about yourself.
https://www.radiodiscussions.com/forums/introduce-yourself.1088/
Thanks in advance and have fun!
RadioDiscussions Administrators
Murdochs plan a new vision of TV with New Fox
- Thread starter nomadcowatbk
- Start date
Depends on what you mean. Those two shows are pretty mature at this point. Hard to say how much longer they have in original production. There are some parts of this deal, like the animation studio, that are just being leased to Disney, and will return to Fox at some point. The shows themselves have contracts with the Fox network, which isn't part of the deal. So they will stay on that network for the term of the contract. They might choose to negotiate a syndication deal for off-network re-runs on a Disney platform, but they could do that without buying Fox.
Aside from that, this is a very gutsy move by the Murdochs, to sell off this big chunk of equity at a time when it's pretty valuable. They can use the cash to reinvest in other parts of the company at a time when new technology is very expensive. They clearly recognize that the future is in content, and they need to be able to diversify the platforms they control in order to profit from that content. Movie theaters and traditional TV stations are not going to be the future. So they need to be ready for when those platforms get replaced, which may be sooner than we think.
I remember the Murdochs had plans to invest in more O&O's at one point though like get the divested Sinclair stations. But that got cancelled as soon as the Sinclair/Tribune talks failed.
Right now theres been a persistent issue on how New Fox will compete against Sinclair though in recent months over how they will compete against the rumored "Sinclair network" for Trump viewers.
Right now theres been a persistent issue on how New Fox will compete against Sinclair though in recent months over how they will compete against the rumored "Sinclair network" for Trump viewers.
It looks like you're conflating the Fox entertainment Network with Fox News. Clearly, they couldn't be more different. The Fox broadcast network doesn't cater to "Trump" viewers any more than the other "Big 4" networks, and as far as I know, the local news operations on the Fox O&Os don't ever adhere to the Fox News doctrines. We all know that KTVU in the SF Bay Area certainly does not, and I doubt KTTV or the New York O&O do either. Promoting a conservative agenda would alienate a vast swath of their viewership.
So I've seen no evidence that Fox entertainment O&Os or affiliates cater to the Fox News conservative agenda, except in perhaps a few markets in conservative markets. For all I know, Sinclair might even own a Fox affiliate or two. And if you're comparing Sinclair affiliates to the national Fox News network, that's apples to oranges.
So "competition" between Fox and Sinclair for "Trump" viewers? I don't see it.
I agree the Fox O&O's are on a different wing like KTVU and KTTV are not pressured to push an agenda. I based my argument on this article with Fox News Channel and Sinclair.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/03/sinclair-broadcast-challenge-to-fox-news-566757
Also on Disney they got 20th Century Fox because they want to position themselves as a rival to Netflix for content.
Thanks for the clarification. However, I still think that Fox News - being a cable/satellite channel with a national reach - is not in direct competition with Sinclair, which owns affiliates, and perhaps some independent stations, with their own separate local news operations. Clearly, all broadcasters are competing with each other for the attention of viewers, and perhaps "Trump" viewers with a local Sinclair station will watch Fox News just a little less - but I don't see it as a big factor.
The Simpsons, and Family Guy will likely be the two first casualties once the acquisition is complete. Both shows are getting expensive to produce, and since they will no longer own distribution rights to either, I don't see them continuing.
The only circumstance I could see the two shows continuing would be if Fox gets a "deal" from Disney on production. Disney would only be willing to offer a deal if they thought they could make more money on the back end through syndication or DVD sales. Since Disney is a fairly family friendly company, I don't see opportunities like this presenting themselves.
I hope I am wrong, because if that last statement is right we could see the sun setting of a lot of Fox's more "mature" content. It won't have a place in Disney's streaming platform (they have flat out said that they intend that to be for family friendly entertainment) and outside of HBO, FX is the best network for "mature" content .
I also do not see all of the cable networks making the cut. After the acquisition, Disney will own:
Freeform
Disney Channel
Disney Junior
Disney XD
FX
FXX
FXM
ESPN
ESPN2
ESPN News
ESPN U
National Geographic
Nat Geo Wild
--Joint
A&E
Crime & Investigation Network
FYI
History
Military History
H2
Several spanish versions of various networks
I also don't see all of the Marvel/Fox character franchises surviving (more on the movie side than the comic side). Disney is after CONTENT yes, but their brand is not in mature content, and not all content will survive.
The only circumstance I could see the two shows continuing would be if Fox gets a "deal" from Disney on production. Disney would only be willing to offer a deal if they thought they could make more money on the back end through syndication or DVD sales. Since Disney is a fairly family friendly company, I don't see opportunities like this presenting themselves.
I hope I am wrong, because if that last statement is right we could see the sun setting of a lot of Fox's more "mature" content. It won't have a place in Disney's streaming platform (they have flat out said that they intend that to be for family friendly entertainment) and outside of HBO, FX is the best network for "mature" content .
I also do not see all of the cable networks making the cut. After the acquisition, Disney will own:
Freeform
Disney Channel
Disney Junior
Disney XD
FX
FXX
FXM
ESPN
ESPN2
ESPN News
ESPN U
National Geographic
Nat Geo Wild
--Joint
A&E
Crime & Investigation Network
FYI
History
Military History
H2
Several spanish versions of various networks
I also don't see all of the Marvel/Fox character franchises surviving (more on the movie side than the comic side). Disney is after CONTENT yes, but their brand is not in mature content, and not all content will survive.
Then again, they've done a better job merchandizing the Star Wars franchise than Lucas has done. He was sort of done with it after the first movie, and they've been able to squeeze a lot more out of it. The other thing is that Disney has a better plan for cable channels than Viacom.
Mgomrjsurf
Banned
ESPN Classic also to.
But wait if Disney wants "Mature Content" then Disney would have to label these shows as "Hulu Originals" or "Hulu Productions" given that Disney will get majority control of Hulu. Disney's intentions of taking over 20th Century Fox is all about going after Netflix
Amazon Studios and Youtube Originals given that Bob Iger and Disney Investors see Netflix as a threat to them.
- Status