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Music By The Partridge Family

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While raking leaves this afternoon I was listening to the Jones Oldies Network and they played "I think I Love You, So What are you afraid of?" by the Partridge Family. How common is this song on Oldies Stations? And I know it's by the Partridge Family because that's how the DJ id'd the song after it played.
 
Partridge Family

Well, in years of being involved in the Oldies format, I have never seen anything but totally terrible test scores.

It's the genre like the Partridge Family, Tony Orlando, J5 and Osmonds that is the WRONG 70s to have in your Oldies mix if you're trying to work in 70s music.

Ugh.

> While raking leaves this afternoon I was listening to the
> Jones Oldies Network and they played "I think I Love You, So
> What are you afraid of?" by the Partridge Family. How common
> is this song on Oldies Stations? And I know it's by the
> Partridge Family because that's how the DJ id'd the song
> after it played.
>
 
> While raking leaves this afternoon I was listening to the
> Jones Oldies Network and they played "I think I Love You, So
> What are you afraid of?" by the Partridge Family. How common
> is this song on Oldies Stations? And I know it's by the
> Partridge Family because that's how the DJ id'd the song
> after it played.
>

Scott Shannon's "True Oldies Channel" plays it.

WKCH Whitewater did back in the 90s.<P ID="signature">______________

AIM: JeremyA1069</P>
 
Jackson 5

> It's the genre like the Partridge Family, Tony Orlando, J5
> and Osmonds that is the WRONG 70s to have in your Oldies mix
> if you're trying to work in 70s music.
>
> Ugh.


I can see the Partridge Family, the Osmonds (even though I personally do like "Down By The Lazy River," guilty pleasure), and to a lesser extent Tony Orlando/Dawn (save for "Tie a Yellow Ribbon" which will probably never totally leave the public consciousness) in that group, but I am surprised to find the Jackson 5 in that list. I think I have seen you post in the past that their songs don't test well. That really surprises me; I would think 2 or 3 of them would.

Why do you think that is? What could make a group that was big for Motown fall like that? Surely it can't be backlash due to the freak show that Michael has become. Do you have any theories as to why?
 
Jackson 5

The Jackson 5 never really has tested that well for Oldies- ever.

I think the deal is they are the R&B Osmonds- cute, poppy music but really way too bubblegum to stand the test of time. The J-5 music is a part of that genre that is from that "in-between" part of the 60's/70's decade transition.

Where these huge acts at the time? Sure. But the emotional state of the country at the time and the entertainment expectations changed by the early & mid 70's, when the Elton/Eagles/Fleetwood/etc. (music with more meat on them bones) took hold and became timeless classics.

>
> Why do you think that is? What could make a group that was
> big for Motown fall like that? Surely it can't be backlash
> due to the freak show that Michael has become. Do you have
> any theories as to why?
>
 
Re: Jackson 5

> The Jackson 5 never really has tested that well for Oldies-
> ever.
>
> I think the deal is they are the R&B Osmonds- cute, poppy
> music but really way too bubblegum to stand the test of
> time. The J-5 music is a part of that genre that is from
> that "in-between" part of the 60's/70's decade transition.
>
> Where these huge acts at the time? Sure. But the emotional
> state of the country at the time and the entertainment
> expectations changed by the early & mid 70's, when the
> Elton/Eagles/Fleetwood/etc. (music with more meat on them
> bones) took hold and became timeless classics.

Jackson 5's songs (some of them) are good - even the cover songs are good (Rockin Robin & Little Bitty Pretty One...both by Bobby Day!). WTLW playes them, CBS-FM played them, WOGL playes them - what gives?

Personally, The Osmonds are too poppy for oldies - just like Fleetwood Mac is way too classic rock, and Steely Dan just sucks. <P ID="signature">______________

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Jackson 5

No doubt the J-5 songs are really good- but Oldies listeners view them as almost "gimmicky" songs. Few J-5 songs are in regular rotation at very many Oldies stations.

And, frankly, Fleetwood Mac & Steely Dan hits test VERY WELL for 60s & 70s based Oldies stations these days. They are mass-appeal, top 40 hits from the 70s, not unline Brown-Eyed Girl and Satisfaction were from the 60s. Give me "Don't Stop" over "A-B-C" any day.

>
> Jackson 5's songs (some of them) are good - even the cover
> songs are good (Rockin Robin & Little Bitty Pretty
> One...both by Bobby Day!). WTLW playes them, CBS-FM played
> them, WOGL playes them - what gives?
>
> Personally, The Osmonds are too poppy for oldies - just like
> Fleetwood Mac is way too classic rock, and Steely Dan just
> sucks.
>
 
Re: Jackson 5

> Jackson 5's songs (some of them) are good - even the cover
> songs are good (Rockin Robin & Little Bitty Pretty
> One...both by Bobby Day!).

Little Bitty Pretty One was a hit in 1957 by Thurston Harris. Peaked at #6 fall of '57 according to Billboard (Whitburn).
Originally released by Bobby Day & The Satellites (Class 211, 1957)This version did not chart in the Top 40
Released by Thurston Harris (Aladdin 3398, 1957) This was the hit version
Released by Frankie Lymon & The Teenagers Rock 'N Roll With Frankie Lymon (Roulette 25036, 1958)


>
> Personally, The Osmonds are too poppy for oldies - just like
> Fleetwood Mac is way too classic rock, and Steely Dan just
> sucks.
>
Everyone forgot to mention Tony DeFranco and the Defranco Family - haha

PS, after singing "I Think I Love You" on "American Idol" this past season, that contestant was voted off the show!!<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by SuperRadioFan on 11/15/05 06:33 PM.</FONT></P>
 
Re: Jackson 5

> The Jackson 5 never really has tested that well for Oldies-
> ever.
>
> I think the deal is they are the R&B Osmonds- cute, poppy
> music but really way too bubblegum to stand the test of
> time. The J-5 music is a part of that genre that is from
> that "in-between" part of the 60's/70's decade transition.
>
> Where these huge acts at the time? Sure. But the emotional
> state of the country at the time and the entertainment
> expectations changed by the early & mid 70's, when the
> Elton/Eagles/Fleetwood/etc. (music with more meat on them
> bones) took hold and became timeless classics.


I guess that the Jackson 5 is a prime example of what was a hit then may not be so today. They definitely were far from the most soulful group to ever come out of Hitsville, USA.

But then again, my preference is for the Atlantic/Stax/Memphis style. Plenty of good stuff to come out of Motown, but the grittier Stax sound is much more appealing IMHO.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by SgtPepper9876 on 11/15/05 07:17 PM.</FONT></P>
 
Re: Jackson 5

> Little Bitty Pretty One was a hit in 1957 by Thurston
> Harris. Peaked at #6 fall of '57 according to Billboard
> (Whitburn).
> Originally released by Bobby Day & The Satellites (Class
> 211, 1957)This version did not chart in the Top 40
> Released by Thurston Harris (Aladdin 3398, 1957) This was
> the hit version
> Released by Frankie Lymon & The Teenagers Rock 'N Roll With
> Frankie Lymon (Roulette 25036, 1958)

Favorite version is a tie between Thurston's version and Frankie's. Really like the echo in Frankies version though. <P ID="signature">______________

AOL IM: wnjoldies or jamminoldies105
CBS-FM lives at http://67.83.118.54:8010
Oldies Board co-moderator</P>
 
Re: Jackson 5

> I think the deal is they are the R&B Osmonds- cute, poppy
> music but really way too bubblegum to stand the test of
> time. The J-5 music is a part of that genre that is from
> that "in-between" part of the 60's/70's decade transition.
>
> Where these huge acts at the time? Sure. But the emotional
> state of the country at the time and the entertainment
> expectations changed by the early & mid 70's, when the
> Elton/Eagles/Fleetwood/etc.

Not to mention that the lead-singer-whose-voice-hasn't-changed-yet type of song gets grating fast. How much of their appeal even back in the day was limited to girls in their early teens? My sister was a huge Bobby Sherman fan during his 15 min. of fame. A couple years later she couldn't stand to listen to him.
 
Bobby the Sherman

You can pick on the Jackson 5 but NOT Bobby Sherman. I worked at Gelsons in Encino, and both Michael & Bobby would shop there. Bobby was great, Michaeal was strange even back then. He would send his goons inside to cash checks.

> Not to mention that the
> lead-singer-whose-voice-hasn't-changed-yet type of song gets
> grating fast. How much of their appeal even back in the day
> was limited to girls in their early teens? My sister was a
> huge Bobby Sherman fan during his 15 min. of fame. A couple
> years later she couldn't stand to listen to him.
>
 
Re: Jackson 5

> I can see the Partridge Family, the Osmonds (even though I
> personally do like "Down By The Lazy River," guilty
> pleasure), and to a lesser extent Tony Orlando/Dawn (save
> for "Tie a Yellow Ribbon" which will probably never totally
> leave the public consciousness) in that group, but I am
> surprised to find the Jackson 5 in that list. I think I
> have seen you post in the past that their songs don't test
> well. That really surprises me; I would think 2 or 3 of
> them would.

Personally I'd like to se the break down of the test results
as to gender and age. these acts were big to the teen female
listeners of the time more so than the males and I can't
believe that these songs wouldn't bring back fond memories
which is really one of the things oldies radio should do.

Mike Dane
WSTB-FM 88.9
SundayOldiesJukebox.com
 
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