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MUSIC EXEC. BLASTS GRAMMYS WITH FULL-PAGE NEW YORK TIMES AD

gregg75

gregg75

Steve Stoute is mad as hell and not going to take it anymore! He's upset at the Grammys
for their snubs of Enimen, Justin Beiber and Kanye West in his full-page New York Times
ad on Sunday. The Grammys were seen on CBS recently.

Is he just expressing the frustration many have with the Grammys or has he lost his mind?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110221/music_nm/us_grammys
 
First of all, the guy has a bias, because he was an exec with Bieber's label.

But it shows there's a disconnect between the voters, who are members of the industry, and consumers. Perhaps a contribution to the loss of sales in recent years.

Everyone is so down on Bieber, yet he is selling records and connecting with audiences. Sure he's 16 and sings about puppy love, so anyone over 25 hates him. But can't people leave their personal bias home when it comes to recognizing that he's reaching a lot of people? Of course, his audience showed their support for him the next day, when his album outsold (by a huge degree) CDs by all of the major winners.

In my opinion, Eminem doesn't make music. He records prose with rhythmic background. But that's what some people call music today. He has a lot of influence, especially among male consumers, and that should mean something. But it doesn't, so he didn't win. And Kanye is his own worst enemy. Not much more I can say about that.
 
Apparently, this genius doesn't listen to Eminem's own music.

"You think I give a damn about a Grammy?" - M. Mathers, "Without Me"
 
......................speaking about the loss of sales. Recently I read that Billboard had achieved
another record .......... the #1 album CD had the lowest weekly sales of any in the modern
soundscan era. Sounds like all this rap and hip-hop may have finally hit rock bottom. Of course
this won't be the end, but maybe it's the start of the end.
 
TheBigA said:
First of all, the guy has a bias, because he was an exec with Bieber's label.

But it shows there's a disconnect between the voters, who are members of the industry, and consumers. Perhaps a contribution to the loss of sales in recent years.

Everyone is so down on Bieber, yet he is selling records and connecting with audiences. Sure he's 16 and sings about puppy love, so anyone over 25 hates him. But can't people leave their personal bias home when it comes to recognizing that he's reaching a lot of people? Of course, his audience showed their support for him the next day, when his album outsold (by a huge degree) CDs by all of the major winners.
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I agree that there is a major disconnect between the consumer & the voters . The Grammys are decided by critics who decide who they think are talented enough to win their awards. Too often, they pick people who the general public either has never heard of, or barely heard of, to win the awards. If they do pick someone that someone has heard of to win the award, most time, they don't win again for a long time, or never again.

I remember back in the 80's & 90's, the Grammys snubbed Madonna just for nominations in most years. Mariah Carey got nominated several times, but only won awards in 1991 & 2006. Despite that, both Mariah Carey & Madonna have outsold most people who actually won a Grammy. I believe sometimes it's best that an artist doesn't win a grammy.

As for some of the awards shows that are in the USA, The American Music Awards base their nominations on album sales & radio play. The Grammys are decided by critics of the music industry. The Billboard Awards (if this is still around) bases it on #1 sales & #1 hits (I could be wrong on this, but that was what I last remember). The Peoples Choice is that, the people for any music category. I don't know the requirements for the few music categories of the Golden Globe Awards. For the Emmys (movie portion only & not daytime emmys), again, decided by the critics. I don't know the requirements for the World Music Awards, but I've seen even more talented musicians that are well known in Europe, but non-existent in North America or barely known (Anastacia being one of a list of talented people that gets snubbed by US recording labels). I know there are more awards shows than what I can remember, & don't remember the criteria for nominations for those either.
 
Celebrity may be briefer today, but I'll give Justin Bieber
a word of encouragement: once upon a time Paul Anka
was a teenager singing about puppy love (that was even
the name of the song), and he's still performing. Hang in
there.
 
bpatrick said:
Celebrity may be briefer today, but I'll give Justin Bieber a word of encouragement: once upon a time Paul Anka was a teenager singing about puppy love (that was even the name of the song), and he's still performing. Hang in there.
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The only thing Beiber and Anka have in common is that they're both Canadian. Anka was a gifted songwriter who is probably more famous today for writing the theme song for The Tonight Show than he is for those sappy songs he sang as a kid (not to mention the vomit-inducing "You're Having My Baby" from the '70s. ;D ). I'm not familiar enough with Beiber to know whether he writes his own songs or not, but hopefully he'll be smart enough to progress musically as he gets older, as Anka did. Otherwise, he'll be a has-been before he's old enough to drink - more like Frankie Lymon (but hopefully without Lymon's tragic life) than Paul Anka.
 
I keep seeing that the critics select the winners. I think it's the musicians themselves who vote. Just as it's actors who vote on the Emmys.
 
Lets just pray to God that Bieber is not in Vegas or Branson singing "Your Having My Baby" in 30 years. I still hate that song. Yuck!
 
bpatrick said:
once upon a time Paul Anka
was a teenager singing about puppy love (that was even
the name of the song), and he's still performing.
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For another success story, replace "Paul Anka" with "Donny Osmond".
 
Without having read Stoute's comments, I can somewhat understand where he is coming from when it comes to hip-hop music. I've always felt that the Grammys have never taken the genre seriously, and even the most socially-conscious and/or least-offensive acts (save for D.J. Jazzy Jeff & the Fresh Prince and others of their ilk) are pushed aside in favor of the non-threatening, blandest pop or country artists in the major awards.

Of the big four Grammy awards, a hip-hop artist or group has never won a statue for either Song of the Year or Record of the Year. Arrested Development (1993) and Lauryn Hill (1999) are the genre's only representives in the Best New Artist winners list, while The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill and Outkast's Speakerboxxx/The Love Below (2004) are the only hip-hop discs to win Album of the Year.

After reading the ad, Stoute's citing of both Eminem's defeat in '01, and Kanye West's loss seven years later, validate my point. The facts speak volumes as to how Grammy has lost touch with the times.

Up until now, Steve Stoute would have been best remembered for having been stomped on by Sean Combs and two goons in an office. Not anymore in my book.
 
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