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Music royalties and restaurants in Palmdale

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Question for david e. Do restaurants have to pay royalties to play music. I live in Palmdale and when I'm at wendys they play music. Just asking
 
Question for david e. Do restaurants have to pay royalties to play music. I live in Palmdale and when I'm at wendys they play music. Just asking

You didn't ask me but the answer is yes. There are occupancy rules that factor into it as well. When you say "they play music," is it a radio station? I doubt it. I know McDonalds has a corporate music service. I don't go to Wendy's, so I don't know exactly what it is. Sirius provides a "Sirius For Business" service that pays the royalties for restaurants that subscribe.

 
Question for david e. Do restaurants have to pay royalties to play music. I live in Palmdale and when I'm at wendys they play music. Just asking
Each performing rights society has a slightly different criteria for licensing. Each allows "a radio behind the counter at a ma and pa hardware store" but if there are multiple wall or ceiling speakers and the use of music, whether radio, a store-assembled playlist or a service, requires a paid license. The payments are based on the sales area of the location and kind of business.

Example: a tire vendor has speakers with a music service in the sales area, the music played is intended to create a nice sales atmosphere for customers, and, thus, must pay a license. One of the employees places a radio near his rack in the service area and he does not have to be licensed as the radio is for personal use.
 
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Example: a tire vendor has speakers with a music service in the sales area, and must pay a license. One of the employees places a radio near his rack in the service area and he does not have to be licensed as the radio is for personal use.

The interesting part is that I just had car service done at a tire dealer, and they didn't have music in the sales area. But there was a TV on in the waiting area. Meanwhile, there was a radio playing in the service area.
 
Thanks david. I knew you would know the answer. Nothing against you bigA. I just thought david would know
 
There are currently 3 major distributors of background music for stores, restaurants and such. Each has music licensing/royalty fees included in the monthly subscription -

Mood Media (formally Musak) via Dish Network
Music Choice via DirecTV and Cable
SiriusXM via Sat Radio. Have no idea how it works for those who choose things like Pandora, Spotify, IHeart, or Over The Air Radio
 
If BMI or ASCAP find out you play music from those sources, you get a phone call from their reps who will tell you how much you owe.
Or SESAC, too. They are particularly aggressive because they try to charge penalties on locations that don't even know they exist.
 
There are currently 3 major distributors of background music for stores, restaurants and such. Each has music licensing/royalty fees included in the monthly subscription -

Mood Media (formally Musak) via Dish Network
Music Choice via DirecTV and Cable
SiriusXM via Sat Radio. Have no idea how it works for those who choose things like Pandora, Spotify, IHeart, or Over The Air Radio
Plus there are dedicated services used by national chains, such as WalMart and a number of the mid-scale restaurants like Red Robbin, Applebees and the like. Those often include targeted "ads" for in-store clients, too.
 
This is a great question. I know ASCAP/BMI/SESAC are very aggressive. If I recall correctly there are small business exemptions based up square footage minimums and one speaker. Has anyone heard of any fines or issues with fees being due for a small business playing the radio on one speaker in a small store vs other music sources.
 
This is a great question. I know ASCAP/BMI/SESAC are very aggressive. If I recall correctly there are small business exemptions based up square footage minimums and one speaker.

Hey Tibbs! There are a lot of great online sources of information on this subject. Here's a link to a site aimed at bar owners:


Some of this was already mentioned, but here are the specifics:

In the US, under the Fairness in Music Licensing Act of 1998, businesses of a certain size (bars and restaurants under 3,750 square feet, stores under 2,000 square feet) are exempt from the paying licensing fees to songwriters, composers, and music publishers under the following three conditions:

The exception only covers music played from a radio or TV (not music played from a CD, MP3, or iPOD)
There must be less than 4 loudspeakers or TVs in any one room and less than 6 loudspeakers or TVs total.
customers are not charged a direct fee to watch TV or hear the music (ie: cover charge)
 
Thanks my friend. I honestly never think about this. Just off the instant cuff, Interesting to see/turn this into an opportunity to sell some radio ads, help small business grow, etc, although I wonder how many businesses would put radio on. I noticed upon my first trip of my many decades into a Dollar General store that they played a Nashville radio station.
 
The interesting part is that I just had car service done at a tire dealer, and they didn't have music in the sales area. But there was a TV on in the waiting area. Meanwhile, there was a radio playing in the service area.
I'm guessing that, like most tire places, the sales room is undersized for the rights requirement square footage. However, what I am curious about is whether the entire operation square footage is used to determine exemption, or just the area or room where music is played for the public.
 
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Doesn’t Sirius XM have channels that are only available for those that have Sirius XM for business? I know there was a “Taste of Italy” channel which isn’t even offered to regular Sirius XM subscribers and is not available in the app either.
 
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