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Music theft and HD radio

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Thoughts?

Plenty of sources for music theft to grow from, but have they considered with the quality of HD radio broadcasts, any Joe Schmoe could rip cuts directly from air?
 
I'll start the response,

would broadcasters be wise to embed something into the digital feed to prevent piracy from occuring?
 
Is anyone other than the RIAA actually worried about this?

For anyone who is looking for free music, there are plenty of easier ways to get copies of songs (and at better quality) versus waiting for them to come on your favorite HD radio station.
 
reminds me of people who used to call and request a song and then ask "and don't talk over it because I want to tape it off the radio". Not sure it's possible to win the 'theft' issue because most kids I ask about this assume it's their God-given right to rip off music from wherever they can find it!! Adults probably would too if they could figure out how to power up a PC without asking their kids!
 
I hope by now that everyone realizes that if sound finally ends up at a speaker it can simply be recorded as an analog signal from any source? You really aren't CONFOUNDED by this issue, are you?
 
spectacle said:
I hope by now that everyone realizes that if sound finally ends up at a speaker it can simply be recorded as an analog signal from any source? You really aren't CONFOUNDED by this issue, are you?
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Ahhh, the voice of reason. If it can be played, it can be copied. Granted it may not be a nice 1 to 1 digital copy, but certainly good enough for my crappy little iPod ear buds.

And have you been listening to the so-called "quality" of the HD broadcasts. Now that they're being parsed into 2 and 3 streams the bit rate has been dropping and that so-called "CD quality" has been absent for quite some time.

All the ranting is nothing but the death throes of the old school "record" companies.
 
Yeah, music theft is such a new concept.

Not like back in the '60s and '70s when hardly anybody ever recorded songs from the radio and played them back in their car cassette machine. Because if they had been doing that, NOBODY would have ever bought records and the music industry would have gone bankrupt.


-The Knob
 
Just a thought, to inspire other thoughts... My goal was to get the cerebral fluids moving around. Let's break from the actual question I asked. Instead focus toward what the question inspired in the minds of the readers. (YOU)

Think... TIVO, but radio, "podcasts", or something similar, pandering to the non-computer or tech saavy.

I should've said, "what do you folks think about..."

in my humble opinion, it's ok to use radio-info to broadcast our disdain towards the business, end on end, but why not use this "free" medium to save "our" business. "double digit declines"

Brainstorm session invited...

My dad does not own a cellphone, nor an Ipod, or computer, but he would like to listen to some of the shows that KZOK has early in the weekend, or possibly some of the morning show on his way home from swing shift. (no, i wasn't raised by a troglodite)

VCR plus, but radio... Could broadcasters send Sub-audible tones with their shows to consumer "units" that are programmed to record these segments? of course they can. Why don't they?

Example;
I want to hear "such and such" but I'm too hung over on sunday morning to catch the show. I hate computers, and I don't own a cassette tape recorder, those are a pain in the butt anyway, nostalgia aside. My solution, a widget that picks up tones from the station, records the show, and then plays it back when I am not so yucky.

Invent it...

Do you follow?


Thanks!
 
Highly possible you could combine a timer and either a small hard disk or flash drive and end up with a "record 'x' hour(s) at a certain time" device. So it ends up being iPod playback technology + VCR timer technology. Put output jack on it so you could plug into car or other input and play it back. Probably needs docking deal to handle the antenna and power... but bottom line is if someone can work a VCR they could do this. Only downside is programming could be tricky without a sophisticated display ... but VCR/DVD player combo units now $80 at Coscto (yeah, I just bought two this week) and so I suspect the whole unit could end up being done for about $75 retail. It has to be under $100 and either match or be simpler than VCR in terms of record setup. I would not involve ANY broadcast tones, though ... enough crap going to the signal as it is tearing it apart (iBOC, PPM fingerprints, RDS, etc.). Would be nice if a station just broadcast a standard sequence of data events and make EVERY vendor adapt to it (e.g. when digital it poops out a stream that translates to "KZOK...CLASSIC ROCK ... GARY CROW...D'YER MAKER...LED ZEPPELIN...etc." ... same thing for commercials, etc. Then each device can pick off what it wants for anything from "Now Playing" to "Which station is this" etc. Of course the stream is more complicated but this example just for concept.

Had convo's years ago with people asking whether we could get standard going to embed track information in CD's ... so you could take an audio CD, for example, pop it into computer and automatically catalog all the tracks on it to your collection. Today's it's a common practice ... but in that pass all I got is "why the hLLL would you want to do THAT???".
 
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