Musical selections that seem out of character

[K.M. Richards]

Catching a typo, but too late to edit the original post:

In fact, I was able to further verify using newspaper archives that KEDD carried more NBC programming and KTVH carried more CBS programming as a result, with virtually no ABC programs anywhere but channel 12.

Obviously, I meant channel 10 (KAKE-TV), if you read that in context.

 

[Music Lover]

I'll give you an example of how I use Wikipedia:
I'm interested in renting the superhero film, The Avengers. So I look the film up on Wikipedia to find out what the plot is about and check out a gist of what critics had to say. When you use it for something like that, it's pretty accurate.

Another example:
There's a Supergirl TV series that's going to be coming on CBS sometime during the 2015-2016 TV season. So I am keeping an eye on the Wikipedia page of the series for the premiere date of the show. Again, that's information that will be pretty accurate.

Now if I were researching the distance to the moon I would use other sources besides Wikipedia.

 

[landtuna]

I'll give you an example of how I use Wikipedia:

Anything pertaining to TV and movies, including the people who produce, act and work behind the scenes is much better served by IMDB (The Internet Movie Data Base).

 

[semoochie]

I think it's a great place to find out what celebrity died that day. I used to use Variety but they've pretty much made that part of the subscription.

 

[Music Lover]

Anything pertaining to TV and movies, including the people who produce, act and work behind the scenes is much better served by IMDB (The Internet Movie Data Base).

I'm not interested in all the behind the scenes work though.

Another thing I use Wikipedia for is to check on discographies and videographies of my favorites music artists. So far, that's been pretty accurate.

 

[Music Lover]

As someone who isn't a radio broadcaster, I'm not concerned about whether or not a Wikipedia article or a radio format guide says the age demographics of standard starts at 35 or 50 or 70. There's more important things to worry about in life than that.

 

[Music Lover]

WHERE is it written that you must only listen to songs from your high school years? People (non-broadcasters) have older siblings (and even parents) who expose them to songs from out of/before that time frame. Young people (non-broadcasters) today hear Classic Hits on the radio from before they were born. They (non-broadcasters) become "familiar" with them. That (familiarity) is one parameter that is always talked about being measured and used for reducing playlists. That "listeners only listen to songs from their high school years) mindset is what has RUINED Classic Hits radio.

Have you seen the video of the grade school band performing Led Zeppelin tunes? Do you think none of them will explore (and enjoy) more music from that era?

Michael Buble is a perfect example of that. He got interested in doing standards because he was introduced to the music of the swing era by his grandfather. And he in turn has made a whole new generation familiar with classic tunes.

Bruno Mars is another example. You can tell that his music is inspired by classic R&B/soul.

Pharrell Williams is another artist with music tied intrinsically to the sounds and styles of the past.

Adele and Norah Jones are also influenced by sounds of the past.

When you hear a song like “Happy” or “Uptown Funk,” they are songs that feel like direct descendants of those timeless pop radio hits that now occupy our “golden oldies” channels. They’re undeniably brand new, but still woven comfortably into a much bigger musical tapestry.

That's why I say that good music appeals to all ages and doesn't have an expiration date.

 

[JeffM]

WHERE is it written that you must only listen to songs from your high school years?... That "listeners only listen to songs from their high school years) mindset is what has RUINED Classic Hits radio.

Obviously you've never hung around a vinyl-record shop, or as I call them, "Old Fart Day Care Centers"... Other than muscle cars and Tea Party politics, the only acceptable topic of conversation is how all music created since they left high school suuuucks.

 

[davideduardo]

As someone who isn't a radio broadcaster, I'm not concerned about whether or not a Wikipedia article or a radio format guide says the age demographics of standard starts at 35 or 50 or 70. There's more important things to worry about in life than that.

You were the one who originally posted the batch of links to erroneous information. Either you are or you are not, and the first evidence indicates that you are concerned about format appeal and willing to take bogus sources to back up your misconceptions.

 

[Han Solo]

You were the one who originally posted the batch of links to erroneous information. Either you are or you are not, and the first evidence indicates that you are concerned about format appeal and willing to take bogus sources to back up your misconceptions.

I think that he or she brought in those links to show that these other sources are contradicting what y'all are saying. You claim they may be bogus. But have you ever considered that they may not be bogus?

 

[Music Lover]

I second what Han Solo said. Just because there are sources out there that contradict the broadcasters doesn't mean they should be automatically labeled as bogus. That attitude/way of thinking is something I can't stand here.

 

[vchimpanzee]

Michael Buble is a perfect example of that. He got interested in doing standards because he was introduced to the music of the swing era by his grandfather. And he in turn has made a whole new generation familiar with classic tunes.

I heard on the radio but have never found other evidence that Rod Stewart was introduced to standards by his grandmother.

Now let's get back on topic. I could really do without "Spooky" by Classics IV. The ARS version would be even worse, but there are parts of it that I like better.

 

[vchimpanzee]

When Music of Your Life was on the air on many stations 20 or so years ago, the listeners were all over 50. Now, they are mostly well over 70 (or they croaked before now).

I was not. I was about 35.

Maybe there weren't many my age, but they were there.

 

[Music Lover]

Now let's get back on topic. I could really do without "Spooky" by Classics IV.

Why?

 

[vchimpanzee]

Why?

I don't have to explain it. It has no redeeming qualities and just generally sounds bad.

 

[Music Lover]

I heard on the radio but have never found other evidence that Rod Stewart was introduced to standards by his grandmother.

My grandmother was the one who introduced me to classic country when I was little.

 

[Music Lover]

Um...ok...lol!

 

[vchimpanzee]

On the subject of Classics IV, "Traces" is a perfectly good and pleasant song for a standards format. "Stormy" is not quite as good but I've adjusted over the yers to hearing it. "Spooky" is just terrible, to me. The Atlanta Rhythm Section version was the first I heard, and while parts of it wouldn't fit standards at all, two instrumental solos are smooth jazz and would sound really good if the screaming rock guitar solo were removed.

 

[Music Lover]

I was not. I was about 35.

Maybe there weren't many my age, but they were there.

There have been some young singers on shows such as American Idol and The Voice who have had interests in throwback music styles.

 

[davideduardo]

I think that he or she brought in those links to show that these other sources are contradicting what y'all are saying. You claim they may be bogus. But have you ever considered that they may not be bogus?

When the data contradicts every single bit of research done by Arbitron, Nielsen, Tapscan, Edison, Coleman, Jacobs Media, Bridge Research, and every other broadcast research company and proprietary studies done by stations themselves as well as the effectiveness studies done by some agency accounts, then the data is bogus.

Some of the bad data is just the product of ignorance or covert racism like calling "Spanish" a format or referring to Urban stations as "r&b" and not distinguishing between the different kinds of African American and Hispanic targeted stations.

And some is just plain stupid, like calling CHR stations primarily teen and 18-24 stations when the bulk of the audience is among 18-49 or 18-49 women and the stations in that format research against young adult women and don't even pay attention to teens. And the ratings, going back decades and decades and thorough at least 10 different ratings companies confirm this.

Those format descriptions and profiles were put together without any sense of reality by PR companies trying to look knowledgeable to potential clients. They are not based on research and likely come from "best guessing" by someone on the staff with little or no broadcast experience.

Defending absolutely, totally and disgustingly inaccurate data is like believing the earth is flat, that the moonwalk was done in a TV studio and the holocaust never happened.