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My evaluation of Binghamton radio..

It's funny how the focus shifts over time. I have a 1940's flyer prepared for when WENE was getting ready to shign on that shows "Greater Endicott", including Vestal, West Corners and Johnson City. Binghamton is on the very edge of the map. The flyer touts the buying power and the millions of dollars spent year by year up to 1947. The sheet collectively refers to the area as the "Triple Cities"

I'm not a fan of the "Greater Binghamton" label. I find it a negative. To me, Binghamton is a filthy run-down city, while the real growth and prosperity is in Vestal, Endicott and Owego. My point of view is that of a west-sider. I grew up in Apalachin and Owego, and reside in Western Broome county now. <P ID="signature">______________
Jon Scaptura
Binghamton Radio Archive
http://www.BinghamtonRadio.com
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> > Dude, no offense, but you spent WAYYYY too much time
> finding
> > out the info..
>
> Not really... I have the information in a census print out
> in a binder on my desk, I just flipped open to one page and
> dropped some numbers... I think its important to know truly
> whats going on when you're in charge of relating to the
> public and promoting the station. Plus I'm a wealth of
> useless info anyway! lol
>
> Anyone see todays Local & State section of the paper? It
> just cements my comments yesterday about minorities and
> sample errors in the census. As it says an increase in
> immigrant births in our area is beginning to counter the
> decline of hometown births. Do we really know how many
> immigrants are here and thats just a segment of an ever
> growing minority population, especially the asian
> population, I mean there are a couple of asian grocery
> stores now.
>
> The ethnicities impacting are differnt, but our economy and
> population trend is much like just around the turn of the
> previous century if you go back in local history... at the
> time the Scranton and Syracuse areas were making fun of
> Binghamton as the sleepy "Parlor City." A place where
> residents had nothing to do and no opportunities, so they'd
> just sit in their parlors moping. The logging and Cigar
> industry were fading fast but as we know shortly after, a
> huge immagration boom and the many that came with it would
> start companies that would take off including the company
> now known as whirlpool which started here and the shoe
> industry which took advantage of the immigrant boom to take
> foot (pun intended) and exploded leading to 60 years of
> consistant growth with EJ, then Link and IBM amongst others.
>
>
> Our major industries are again in decline and opportunity is
> again limited, now is the kind of time where the next set of
> leaders can come in cheap and take us on a new path and
> create new types of business and opportunity. I'm obviously
> trying to be optomistic and would rather see our positives
> than our negatives, but history does tend to repeat itself.
>

Well, you've earned my respect.
 
> It's funny how the focus shifts over time. I have a 1940's
> flyer prepared for when WENE was getting ready to shign on
> that shows "Greater Endicott", including Vestal, West
> Corners and Johnson City. Binghamton is on the very edge of
> the map. The flyer touts the buying power and the millions
> of dollars spent year by year up to 1947. The sheet
> collectively refers to the area as the "Triple Cities"
>
> I'm not a fan of the "Greater Binghamton" label. I find it a
> negative. To me, Binghamton is a filthy run-down city, while
> the real growth and prosperity is in Vestal, Endicott and
> Owego. My point of view is that of a west-sider. I grew up
> in Apalachin and Owego, and reside in Western Broome county
> now.
>

Being born and raised in Bingo town, I am really upset that Mayor Bucci is not doing something about downtown. It is a disgrace. Last week while visiting, I was really disgusted that it looks horrible. 15 years ago, it was thriving! Businesses were booming, people were actually going downtown for something.

NOW,it's like a fricking ghost town. There are no real restaurants down there, (if any at all), clubs, no I mean clubs, not bars acting like clubs. I'ts boring. The only REAL pizza /restaurant place was Marnielli's on State St. EVEN they smarted and moved to the North side!!

Boscovs, please. He'll be gone in 2-3 years. I'm amazed that Citidel is staying put. Give it time. I'm really annoyed because it should'nt be this way. Someone said "radio is great in Binghamton", I wouldn't say great, maybe ok.

My *evaluation* was strictly my personal observance, my opinion.
 
> NOW,it's like a fricking ghost town. There are no real
> restaurants down there, (if any at all), clubs, no I mean
> clubs, not bars acting like clubs. I'ts boring. The only
> REAL pizza /restaurant place was Marnielli's on State St.
> EVEN they smarted and moved to the North side!!
>
> Boscovs, please. He'll be gone in 2-3 years. I'm amazed that
> Citidel is staying put. Give it time. I'm really annoyed
> because it should'nt be this way. Someone said "radio is
> great in Binghamton", I wouldn't say great, maybe ok.
>
> My *evaluation* was strictly my personal observance, my
> opinion.
This is a small area, but there is nothing unique about the decline of Bingo's Downtown, its the same way in downtowns all over the country... just look at Main Street in JC & The Ave in Endicott for examples of emptiness. One can't just pass through on a visit and claim to know it... compare store fronts downtown from 2000 to now and I think you'd be suprised to see some growth, slowly but surely... The area's biggest event every month now is First Friday, join that once and you'll have a whole new appreciation for the changes happening.

Downtown is the arts center, the new Art Theatre will open at the depot project, it hosts all of our big events & national touring shows, plus it has the arena & stadium, now with 3 pro sports (hockey, baseball & arena football). The opening of the new billard hall, and the coming virtual arcade, new transportation terminal and downtown campuses of BU & BCC will only help things.

I miss Marnielli's too, but they outgrew the space in like 1990, moved to South Bridge, then the family divorced, she kept M's and he opened Anthony's on opposite edges of downtown. M's was torn down last winter and the new formal Grande just opened there... Southbridge has some other great food... Number 5, Yanni's, Hole in the Wall, Pat Mitchell's & the BBQ at Thirsty's is excellent plus some other coffee, deli & fast food places. Despite the loss of M's, downtown STILL has plenty of REAL restaurants that are packed all the time. Little Venice, Lost Dog, Maro's, and J. Michaels (down under/next to Citadel) are some my favs, Buffy's has some of the best Mex around, long time staples are still around in the Olde World Deli, Argo, Portfolios, Greenery, & Parlor City Cafe (The Ritz), for the best overnight munchies nothing beats Pepe's and their 1.50 meatball special. Grotta Azzura still has its student and work pizza specials. Raymo's 2, Uncle Tony's, and Tom & Marty's all offer up killer burgers, wings and sandwiches, add in 2 sub shops, 3 fast pizza places, a chocolate/ice cream parlor, plus an indian restaurant, a chinese restaurant, 3 coffee cafes and the best lunch in upstate at Zazoo's and thats more food in 3 1/2 blocks than any place in our area.

It's also the home of night entertainment, granted being a small community thats not saying much, but contrary to your statement about clubs, it does have Empire, which is as close to a "club" in the City fashion you'll find in the twin tiers, offering three unique settings (dance with multiple bars, live music concert bar, and the new 21+ wiskey bar) on multiple levels. Pariso (aka old Escape/Eclipse) seems to be growing in popularity with BU students and the 18 to party crowd if you don't mind police outside. Flashbacks/Boca Joes offers up two different types of dancing atmosphere, classic dance and modern/hip-hop. Sports Bar has multiple rooms including a game room and dance area and is a haven for the NYC kids from BU. Then there is 3 irish pubs (Player's, Patty's & Dillenger's), 4 smaller dance bars (Skyline, The Rat, JT's and Ghetto aka Ranells), 2 gay bars (Merlin's & Squiggy's), and a teen dance club (Escape).

Sure it needs work, there are only 6 clothing stores downtown today, but thats better than the 2 it had in 2000 (including Boscov's). With the entire State-Court corner either just recently redeveloped or in the process (O'Neill Building) it leaves the old Derby Fashion Building and the old McClain's as the the last two major buildings of redevelopment in the immediate blocks of downtown.

The city is tearing up and putting in new sidewalks, roads, lightening all over to brighten things up, it looks like mother nature threw up downtown with all the planters and new trees, lots of people walk along the new river walks... It has plenty of parking free and metered, it doesn't have a cancer plume, its got plenty of great filled loft space, what more can they do to change the image for people who never even give it a chance?

I mean I drive through JC and Endicott and see the same worn out look everywhere but I still go there too.
 
>
> I miss Marnielli's too, but they outgrew the space in like
> 1990, moved to South Bridge, then the family divorced, she
> kept M's and he opened Anthony's on opposite edges of
> downtown. M's was torn down last winter and the new formal
> Grande just opened there...

Very sad about that, I worked there for 6 years! When I'm in town, I'm always there (At Anthony's..It was great back then. I'm happty for Grande, many pleasant memories of Bingo town.
 
> >
> > I miss Marnielli's too, but they outgrew the space in like
>
> > 1990, moved to South Bridge, then the family divorced, she
>
> > kept M's and he opened Anthony's on opposite edges of
> > downtown. M's was torn down last winter and the new
> formal
> > Grande just opened there...
>
> Very sad about that, I worked there for 6 years! When I'm in
> town, I'm always there (At Anthony's..It was great back
> then. I'm happty for Grande, many pleasant memories of Bingo
> town.
>
Not to kind of go off of the subject, but the new Grande is not that good. The service sucks, the food sucks, and it's way over priced. Maybe some will disagree with me, but the Grande in the Northgate Plaza is the one I suggest going to for good food. Garlic pasta anyone?
 
> > >
> > > I miss Marnielli's too, but they outgrew the space in
> like
> >
> > > 1990, moved to South Bridge, then the family divorced,
> she
> >
> > > kept M's and he opened Anthony's on opposite edges of
> > > downtown. M's was torn down last winter and the new
> > formal
> > > Grande just opened there...
> >
> > Very sad about that, I worked there for 6 years! When I'm
> in
> > town, I'm always there (At Anthony's..It was great back
> > then. I'm happty for Grande, many pleasant memories of
> Bingo
> > town.
> >
> Not to kind of go off of the subject, but the new Grande is
> not that good. The service sucks, the food sucks, and it's
> way over priced. Maybe some will disagree with me, but the
> Grande in the Northgate Plaza is the one I suggest going to
> for good food. Garlic pasta anyone?
>

Off the subject? Who cares, I also heard the same thing. The Guidos on the south side ain't gonna buy expensive spaghetti that costs $15.00! That was my best Brookly anccent in typing...
 
> Off the subject? Who cares, I also heard the same thing. The
> Guidos on the south side ain't gonna buy expensive spaghetti
> that costs $15.00! That was my best Brookly anccent in
> typing...
>

LOL...

I haven't been there yet, the wait the day I was gonna go was like 40 minutes so I went to Yanni's instead... did notice today while doing a Summer Sizzler free cool tea stop that there is a new Jamacian & American Cuisine Restaurant on court street plus Giovanni's pizza across the street from the library, anyone know if its the guys from the front pizza kitchen at the old giovanni's on upper front street?
 
> > Off the subject? Who cares, I also heard the same thing.
> The
> > Guidos on the south side ain't gonna buy expensive
> spaghetti
> > that costs $15.00! That was my best Brookly anccent in
> > typing...
> >
>
> LOL...
>
> I haven't been there yet, the wait the day I was gonna go
> was like 40 minutes so I went to Yanni's instead... did
> notice today while doing a Summer Sizzler free cool tea stop
> that there is a new Jamacian & American Cuisine Restaurant
> on court street plus Giovanni's pizza across the street from
> the library, anyone know if its the guys from the front
> pizza kitchen at the old giovanni's on upper front street?
>
If I'm not mistaken, the same neon sign that was in the front window of the Upper Front St. location is now in the front window of the one on Court St. So maybe it is the same family, or Bob's bargain barn had a sale on used neon signs....lol
 
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