My first Omnia ONE question

[cgould]

Found the noise.

Our RDS subcarrier. It's making about 30 db of noise within the audible spectrum. Unplugged the RDS and the signal was crystal clear.

Great work!

So, there is something goofy with the RDS! Without the RDS generator, does the sound of the radio station
approach what you're looking for?

-Cornelius

 

[whit979]

Oh man, let me tell you! Without the RDS noise stuff, that is the absolute most crystal-clear sound I've ever heard coming out of our station. Truly something to behold. We turned down the SCA input that the RDS is plugged into, and most of the noise went away. So hopefully we'll get the rest of the kinks worked out in a few days. Thanks to you and everybody else for the help this weekend!

 

[menotti1]

FOUL, you never posted anything about the RDS and using the sca input.(ha)But you are on the right track now.How many posts ago did i suggest an Omnia to get your station sounding great? ROCK ON.

 

[whit979]

LOL. Indeed.

 

[fm-engineer]

LOL. Indeed.

The Omnia 6 seems to have a very sensitive SCA input, even set at -20.

 

[stace]

How many posts ago did i suggest an Omnia to get your station sounding great? ROCK ON.

Does seem a little unfair to the optimod however. Pull it out when something else was wrong

 

[menotti1]

yeah,like optimod was unfair to him by discontinuing the 8400 model and really not caring to support it.also,i think it was more of a difference in the sensitivity in the sca input on the units.Whit will also agree the 8400 is the better processor for their format.

 

[whit979]

Does seem a little unfair to the optimod however. Pull it out when something else was wrong

Actually, we pulled out the Optimod because it had been hit by lightning. Several times. We had a storm blow through 2 weeks ago, and after the storm that thing went crazy. For our 8400, it was the straw that broke the camel's back. It's off for repair, and will become an extremely good backup processor.

Whit will also agree the 8400 is the better processor for their format.

I'll have to disagree with you on that one. We love our new Omnia! It's really blown the sound wide open, especially on our Hot AC format, where we're having to play songs from every major music genre. Optimods definitely offer more consistency in sound...but on a format where you're going from 80's gold to hypercompressed pop, I think it's better to have a processor that can handle the changing dynamics of all these different types of music.

Optimod is easier to use, though. Two words: LESS-MORE. Actually, there's a hyphen in that. So would that be like, 1.5 words? Whatever. 8)

 

[menotti1]

sorry for the typo.i actually meant to say the Omnia one FM is the better processor for your format NOT the 8400.and you seem to agree..

 

[stace]

Optimods definitely offer more consistency in sound...

I believe this is because the gating is usually alot higher in the multiband AGC sections of the Omnias which limits the amount of spectral correction. By lowering the gate levels in the Multiband AGC you can trade openess for consistancy/density

 

[FFoti1]

I believe this is because the gating is usually alot higher in the multiband AGC sections of the Omnias which limits the amount of spectral correction. By lowering the gate levels in the Multiband AGC you can trade openess for consistancy/density

Not a correct assumption. The Omnia GATE levels are adjustable for each band, and they can be set very low. Omnia is very capable of consistancy and openess.

-Frank Foti

 

[Doctor_Technical]

Frank: thanks for the resonable sensitivity level of your SCA/RDS input spigot. I've run into other (non-processor) equipment that wants more than 3V P-P for good injection. Whew.

Whit: check your PM.

Paul E. Burt
Global Security / Alert FM

 

[FFoti1]

Frank: thanks for the resonable sensitivity level of your SCA/RDS input spigot. I've run into other (non-processor) equipment that wants more than 3V P-P for good injection. Whew.

Whit: check your PM.

Paul E. Burt
Global Security / Alert FM

Paul,

Thanks, but this part was easy. We allow the SCA/RDS signal to pass through the mpx path with variable level between unity gain adjustable down to -20dB.

-Frank Foti

 

[stace]

Not a correct assumption. The Omnia GATE levels are adjustable for each band, and they can be set very low. Omnia is very capable of consistancy and openess.

-Frank Foti

Sorry if I wasn't clear.
Someone mentioned Optimods are more consistant than Omnias. Often in the newer Optimods, the gate is very low in the factory presets, and band coupling is also very low, which obviously creates a very dense consistant sound. I was trying to explain, if you want to trade openness in the Omnia for a more dense/consistant sound, then try lowering the GATE levels in the multiband AGC section. I didn't say anywhere that Omnias couldn't sound open, thats what they do best.

 

[FFoti1]

Sorry if I wasn't clear.
Someone mentioned Optimods are more consistant than Omnias. Often in the newer Optimods, the gate is very low in the factory presets, and band coupling is also very low, which obviously creates a very dense consistant sound. I was trying to explain, if you want to trade openness in the Omnia for a more dense/consistant sound, then try lowering the GATE levels in the multiband AGC section. I didn't say anywhere that Omnias couldn't sound open, thats what they do best.

Omnia can also sound dense, if need be. Although, that also adds to listener fatigue.

-Frank Foti