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My post was deleted.

Re: ?

> > > Hmmmm. Boards aren't supposed to have biased admins.
>
> Says who?
>

Common sense says so. It is detrimental to an open public board to have a biased admin, especially when the bias is personal.
 
Re: not biased....

> > And furthermore, I don't know you JJ, but if what you say
> > holds true, then why aren't you deleting all of the other
> > hateful things said about people like Lisa Wood, Andy
> > Savage, Robin Erickson etc. There have been MANY
> slanderous
> > and hurtful posts about a lot of people here, but you seem
>
> > to have a protective bias on this one.
>
>
> As far as those posts...no complaints were received from
> Lisa Wood, Andy Savage or Robin Erickson.....had they
> complained---or said what was posted was not true--according
> to them----then I would have deleted those posts.......in a
> way---it's like the old phrase "The squeaky wheel gets the
> grease...."
>
> Generally I will let posts ride, unless the person being
> posted about will take the time to ask to have action taken
> on a post.
>
>
> Hopefully we can get back to posting about radio and what
> people in radio are doing.....rather than their personal
> lives....but then again "inquiring minds want to know....."
> so...what is a moderator to do?!?!?!?!
>
It sounds like the person in question did just as was eluded to by the deleted post - run to the nearest authority/friend and whine. That makes me tend to beleive the deleted post even more.
 
Re: not biased....

> > Oh yeah JJ so in all the years that you've worked for
> Clear Channel NO ONE has EVER broken one of their sacred
> rules or tough policies set to govern those who work for
> them.
> I'm not here to say that Tracy did or didn't do what Chef
> has alledged but I find it more than amusing JJ that you
> would say that because there are rules in place at CC to
> guard against such behavior that it didn't and doesn't go in
> which is just a naive assertion on your part.
> You and I both know that these sorts of things go on all the
> time in all office & workplace settings and you can have all
> the rules and policies in place you like that will never
> guarantee 100 % compliance on any level be from interns on
> up to CEO's.
> You can say you're not biased at all but the fact that both
> you the moderator and the postee - Tracy work for the same
> company, add in that KJR AM has been hyping her return to
> the Mitch in the Morning show and well it sure stinks of
> bias and someone trying to protect a Clear Channel asset.
> I will not come out and say you're biased as I don't know
> you but the situation and circumstances sure make it look
> so.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> to voo-doo bones and others.....no biased involved on my
> > part---I have no agenda and enjoy very much reading about
> > radio stations and their people.....but when I get an
> e-mail
> > from someone that I know personally or even have never
> > met----that has been posted about----telling me that the
> > posts are not true and they would like them deleted...then
> I
> > go ahead and delete posts......
> >
> > I'm sure if there were posts made about you that weren't
> > true you would expect the same courtesy----which I would
> > also provide. If someone doesn't like someone that's
> > fine---if you feel that way you may state that----but it's
> a
> > tasteless post when someone states that someone has slept
> > with virtually everyone in the Clear Channel Building, and
>
> > the other posts that I deleted......those kind of
> slanderous
> > posts will NOT be tolerated.
> >
> > And since I work for Clear Channel---IF what was posted
> was
> > the case, Tracy certantly wouldn't be coming back to work
> > for them.....CC does have it's rules and policies and
> > violaters are not tolerated----regardless of their
> position
> > or tenure with the company.
> >
> > I will leave the posts about this topic up for a few more
> > days.....
> >
> > In looking back over the few years that I've been one of
> the
> > moderators---- there have been very few posts I have
> > deleted---unless it gets down to name calling, or the "F"
> or
> > "S" words are used. Or something else that would be
> > considered an explitive deleti. Or if someone requests
> > action on a post--as was the case with these.....
> >
> > so----so steal from the Fox News Channel-----I am indeed
> > "Fair & Balanced....." And the "spin" does stop
> here.......
> >
>
If it's so fair an balanced, why the false assertion that the deleted post about the person in question sayed she "slept with other CC personnel? That isn't true from what I can glean, so should you delete your own post because of a false accusation?
 
Re: not biased....

The whole point of this is that we are in a public forum. As such freedom of speech is paramount. If any comments were made whether they be true or false they need to remain in the public forum. If the statements are false, then those involved need to form a factful and verifiable rebuttal. If they are true, there should be no arguement. That person made their bed, let them lay in it.

The truth is like a virus.

HHH

> hmm it seems to me that if someone complained about
> anything, a post or whatever it may be.. you should read it
> and determine if it was 'trashing' him or her as a
> moderator.
>
 
Re: not biased....

> to voo-doo bones and others.....no biased involved on my
> part---I have no agenda and enjoy very much reading about
> radio stations and their people.....but when I get an e-mail
> from someone that I know personally or even have never
> met----that has been posted about----telling me that the
> posts are not true and they would like them deleted...then I
> go ahead and delete posts......
>
> I'm sure if there were posts made about you that weren't
> true you would expect the same courtesy----which I would
> also provide. If someone doesn't like someone that's
> fine---if you feel that way you may state that----but it's a
> tasteless post when someone states that someone has slept
> with virtually everyone in the Clear Channel Building, and
> the other posts that I deleted......those kind of slanderous
> posts will NOT be tolerated.
>
> And since I work for Clear Channel---IF what was posted was
> the case, Tracy certantly wouldn't be coming back to work
> for them.....CC does have it's rules and policies and
> violaters are not tolerated----regardless of their position
> or tenure with the company.
>
> I will leave the posts about this topic up for a few more
> days.....
>
> In looking back over the few years that I've been one of the
> moderators---- there have been very few posts I have
> deleted---unless it gets down to name calling, or the "F" or
> "S" words are used. Or something else that would be
> considered an explitive deleti. Or if someone requests
> action on a post--as was the case with these.....
>
> so----so steal from the Fox News Channel-----I am indeed
> "Fair & Balanced....." And the "spin" does stop here.......

Ummm, JJ. Fox News is as fair and balanced as the current federal budget. And there's more spin in a Foz story than a CD player.

A moniker can tell you anything. It's when you read between the lines do you find whether it's even half of what they say it is.
>
<P ID="signature">______________
"Never keep up with the Jones's. Drag them down to your level" - Quentin Crisp

[email protected]


</P>
 
Re: not biased....

> > > Oh yeah JJ so in all the years that you've worked for
> > Clear Channel NO ONE has EVER broken one of their sacred
> > rules or tough policies set to govern those who work for
> > them.
> > I'm not here to say that Tracy did or didn't do what Chef
> > has alledged but I find it more than amusing JJ that you
> > would say that because there are rules in place at CC to
> > guard against such behavior that it didn't and doesn't go
> in
> > which is just a naive assertion on your part.
> > You and I both know that these sorts of things go on all
> the
> > time in all office & workplace settings and you can have
> all
> > the rules and policies in place you like that will never
> > guarantee 100 % compliance on any level be from interns on
>
> > up to CEO's..

That's right. You'd be amazed at what goes on behind closed doors, even at stations with strict conduct rules-hell, if it happens in the military, it happens everywhere. I knew plenty of people in the biz who did things like go into a bathroom stall and snorted a rail of coke or meth. Or have a lunchtime quickie with someone. That's nothing new. The only way that can be stopped is if the USA became a total police state. And then see how many people put up with that.


> > You can say you're not biased at all but the fact that
> both
> > you the moderator and the postee - Tracy work for the same
>
> > company, add in that KJR AM has been hyping her return to
> > the Mitch in the Morning show and well it sure stinks of
> > bias and someone trying to protect a Clear Channel asset.
> > I will not come out and say you're biased as I don't know
> > you but the situation and circumstances sure make it look
> > so.

I don't know the situation. But if someones says someone specifically, by name has been sleeping around with everybody someplace on this board, then it does cross the line beyond criticism and into slander territory and it IS JJ's job to delete the post. There isn't any favoritism I see. Just a coincidence that both do work for Clear Channel.
<P ID="signature">______________
"Never keep up with the Jones's. Drag them down to your level" - Quentin Crisp

[email protected]


</P>
 
Re: not biased....

Okay lets nip this whole who slept with who theory. Here are my post. Even though my post were deleted Tracy had quoted me on her response so I can prove what I said:

For easier reading my post is in bold and Tracy’s are in italics

> Wow, you burned so many bridges I am surprised they allowed
> you back to the PNW!
>
No actually I didn't burn bridges.. I left the PNW on my own terms.. Worked for another great company.. Had a lot of fun and well- it was time to come back.. Missed working with some great people at KJR and happy to be home ..=) sorry that you have nothing better to do than rip on me..

and the next one
> Who is ripping? I'm just stating fact.
> As far as time, Multi-tasking. It's fun and efficient.
>
Please.. if you were stating facts then you would know them.. you can ask anyone I have worked with that - No i didn't burn bridges and I have never ever done it while I have been in this business.. Find someone else to victimize..Some people change and grow up.. maybe you should do the same..

So as you can see my deleted post never mentioned anyone sleeping with anyone.
 
Re: not biased....

> > > > Oh yeah JJ so in all the years that you've worked for
> > > Clear Channel NO ONE has EVER broken one of their sacred
>
> > > rules or tough policies set to govern those who work for
>
> > > them.
> > > I'm not here to say that Tracy did or didn't do what
> Chef
> > > has alledged but I find it more than amusing JJ that you
>
> > > would say that because there are rules in place at CC to
>
> > > guard against such behavior that it didn't and doesn't
> go
> > in
> > > which is just a naive assertion on your part.
> > > You and I both know that these sorts of things go on all
>
> > the
> > > time in all office & workplace settings and you can have
>
> > all
> > > the rules and policies in place you like that will never
>
> > > guarantee 100 % compliance on any level be from interns
> on
> >
> > > up to CEO's..
>
> That's right. You'd be amazed at what goes on behind closed
> doors, even at stations with strict conduct rules-hell, if
> it happens in the military, it happens everywhere. I knew
> plenty of people in the biz who did things like go into a
> bathroom stall and snorted a rail of coke or meth. Or have a
> lunchtime quickie with someone. That's nothing new. The only
> way that can be stopped is if the USA became a total police
> state. And then see how many people put up with that.
>
>
> > > You can say you're not biased at all but the fact that
> > both
> > > you the moderator and the postee - Tracy work for the
> same
> >
> > > company, add in that KJR AM has been hyping her return
> to
> > > the Mitch in the Morning show and well it sure stinks of
>
> > > bias and someone trying to protect a Clear Channel
> asset.
> > > I will not come out and say you're biased as I don't
> know
> > > you but the situation and circumstances sure make it
> look
> > > so.
>
> I don't know the situation. But if someones says someone
> specifically, by name has been sleeping around with
> everybody someplace on this board, then it does cross the
> line beyond criticism and into slander territory and it IS
> JJ's job to delete the post. There isn't any favoritism I
> see. Just a coincidence that both do work for Clear Channel.
>
Except the deleted post didn't say that at all. That in itself is approaching slander.
 
Re: not biased....

> Okay lets nip this whole who slept with who theory. Here are
> my post. Even though my post were deleted Tracy had quoted
> me on her response so I can prove what I said:
>
> For easier reading my post is in bold and Tracy’s are in
> italics
>
> > Wow, you burned so many bridges I am surprised they
> allowed
> > you back to the PNW!
> >
> No actually I didn't burn bridges.. I left the PNW on my own
> terms.. Worked for another great company.. Had a lot of fun
> and well- it was time to come back.. Missed working with
> some great people at KJR and happy to be home ..=) sorry
> that you have nothing better to do than rip on me..
>
> and the next one
> > Who is ripping? I'm just stating fact.
> > As far as time, Multi-tasking. It's fun and efficient.
> >
> Please.. if you were stating facts then you would know
> them.. you can ask anyone I have worked with that - No i
> didn't burn bridges and I have never ever done it while I
> have been in this business.. Find someone else to
> victimize..Some people change and grow up.. maybe you should
> do the same..
>
> So as you can see my deleted post never mentioned anyone
> sleeping with anyone.
>
How do you spell "Protectionism">
 
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