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My week with Arbitron

Well, I didn't want to post beforehand that we would be an Arbitron household for a week just not to invalidate anything, but the diaries are in the mail & the dollar bills are spent. One each when the diaries arrived, then another each in a reminder piece of mail. This proved more profitable than the dollar machines at Foxwoods.

First of all I have to say the guy doing the callout for Arbitron was many cuts above the average telemarketing or survey caller I get. I'm pretty nice to callers even though I politely say I'm not interested & hang up before they can get many words in edgewise, especially since most have problems pronouncing the more difficult words like "mister", but this guy was good. Naturally the word "Arbitron" caught my ear anyway. A couple of days into the survey week I received a reminder call from a lady who was also very good.

The initial caller asked what radio stations I'd listened to that day & if I listen at all to satellite or internet radio. Also asked if there were any black or Spanish speaking members in the household. Also asked if there were any male household members in certain age groups which I forgot. I don't know why this would have made any difference or if I'd answered any of the questions differently if I wouldn't have been offered a diary.

One thing that surprised me is offering a diary to more than one member of the household, & I'm not sure I agree that this should be done. At-home listening time could be affected by this & a radio in the kitchen during meal times would definitely result in one person's choice getting multiple mentions. Also, I wake up first & control the clock radio. Since I lie in bed for about a half hour listening before I even crawl out, there's another case where a station can get mentioned in more than one diary even thought the wake-up station is my choice. Same could be said for in-car listening, not so much during drive time to work but on weekends where more than one person in the family is in the same car listening to the same station.

I did my diary entries in the evening, but was more cognizant of who I listened to in the car. I don't listen to the radio at work so that wasn't a factor. I'm not one of those impatient button-pushers but do scan around to see who's doing what. Still I went by the stations I actually spent time with, as opposed to those where I caught half a song I liked. I think it's inevitable that most will do this or diary completion would be a nightmare. It turned out they were my favorite stations anyway & I'm willing to bet that's what happens with most people. You may listen to various stations in the car, but remember the ones you're really fans of, & those are the ones you enter. Aside from the separate daypart entries, there is a question on the diary pertaining to what station I listened to the most.

The survey period is Thursday through Wednesday. Does anyone know if this is standard for everyone or the reasoning behind it? My thought is that if someone is surveyed for weeks beginning on Monday, a vacation week could throw the whole thing off in terms of regular listening habits. In my case I actually did have a vacation week so if this had been my diary week it definitely would not have been indicative of which station I listen to & when. At least entries for last Thursday & Friday were the norm. The stations I entered didn't change any for this week, but the dayparts did somewhat.

A few things that do come to mind: You get into this gung-ho at the outset, but it becomes tedious after about 3-4 days & I wonder how many just duplicate their entries once they complete a few days faithfully & accurately. Getting those at-work listeners has to be pretty important since with no opportunity for button-pushing or scanning, you end up with one station getting all the Xs in all those boxes & all those spots are getting heard too. Hence I can see how the "no repeat workdays" can be a big plus. I also wonder how many people lie about their age & income on the surveys. I think I once read that there's a tendency for people to do this even when taking anonymous surveys.

I still have to wonder about the theory behind multiple surveys in the same household though. This would have been easier for TV since other than the evening news, I don't watch it.
 
So you're not gonna tell us your results.You could have auctioned the diary off here & made more than $2.00.
 
I was a Neilsen Family before. They hand out one Diary for each Television in the household and pay Two Dollars per Diary. So I made Four Bucks. It's an awfully paltry sum of money for the tedious work involved. However anyone who does it isn't doing it for the money anyway. They are doing it as a way to vote for their favorite programs so they stay on the air!

You are right...... After the third or fourth day I was telling myself that I would never do it again. It's just a hassle and doesn't seem worth it once you are a few days into it. The first thing that came to mind was that there has to be a better way. How much longer will it be until Radio and TV's are able to automaticly send data in of what is being Watched or Listened to. I assume that it's got to happen sometime within the next 20 years. This diary stuff seems Way Out Of date.

If you get a chance to do it, then I say go for it so you can see what it's like. Just don't expect it to be fun...... Because it isn't.

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> into it. The first thing that came to mind was that there
> has to be a better way. How much longer will it be until
> Radio and TV's are able to automaticly send data in of what


There is! Once the majority of radio stations are broadcasting HD Radio, it's childs play to rig up some custom "Arbitron" radios to track which station is listened to and when. Arbitron could just call you ahead of time, agree which radios you need, and then ship 'em to you. In-car listening could be handled by doing a satellite-radio-style Part 15 retransmitter system.

Of course, that's ignoring all the other issues of HD Radio... :)

There's also the PPM's (Portable People Meters) which seem to have a lot of trouble accurately giving results...but I figure eventually they'll get 'em perfected. Of course, lots of people don't WANT the PPM's perfected because the results will almost certainly be very, very different than the existing model...which might endanger the big ratings-getters place on top of the pile.

(EDIT: actually, you could do the "Arbitron Radio" idea today with RDS, but that would skew the results as the test listener would listen more to FM as it's easier to track than the old by-hand/diary method you'd have to use for AM)
 
> > into it. The first thing that came to mind was that there
> > has to be a better way. How much longer will it be until
> > Radio and TV's are able to automaticly send data in of
> what
>
>
> There is! Once the majority of radio stations are
> broadcasting HD Radio, it's childs play to rig up some
> custom "Arbitron" radios to track which station is listened
> to and when. Arbitron could just call you ahead of time,
> agree which radios you need, and then ship 'em to you.
> In-car listening could be handled by doing a
> satellite-radio-style Part 15 retransmitter system.
>
> Of course, that's ignoring all the other issues of HD
> Radio... :)
>
> There's also the PPM's (Portable People Meters) which seem
> to have a lot of trouble accurately giving results...but I
> figure eventually they'll get 'em perfected. Of course,
> lots of people don't WANT the PPM's perfected because the
> results will almost certainly be very, very different than
> the existing model...which might endanger the big
> ratings-getters place on top of the pile.
>
> (EDIT: actually, you could do the "Arbitron Radio" idea
> today with RDS, but that would skew the results as the test
> listener would listen more to FM as it's easier to track
> than the old by-hand/diary method you'd have to use for AM)
>
I scored with Nelson!
I mean I 'scored'
Spoke to a cuttie named Robin there a few times and
got 'hooked up'.
Thats worth MORE than 2 dollars!
I gave her a 'high' rating too!!!!
 
Interesting diary of a diaryholder. Thanks for sharing!
About the vacation issue, I was wondering... Did they ask you if you were travelling out of the market?


> Well, I didn't want to post beforehand that we would be an
> Arbitron household for a week just not to invalidate
> anything, but the diaries are in the mail & the dollar bills
> are spent. One each when the diaries arrived, then another
> each in a reminder piece of mail. This proved more
> profitable than the dollar machines at Foxwoods.
>
> First of all I have to say the guy doing the callout for
> Arbitron was many cuts above the average telemarketing or
> survey caller I get. I'm pretty nice to callers even though
> I politely say I'm not interested & hang up before they can
> get many words in edgewise, especially since most have
> problems pronouncing the more difficult words like "mister",
> but this guy was good. Naturally the word "Arbitron" caught
> my ear anyway. A couple of days into the survey week I
> received a reminder call from a lady who was also very good.
>
>
> The initial caller asked what radio stations I'd listened to
> that day & if I listen at all to satellite or internet
> radio. Also asked if there were any black or Spanish
> speaking members in the household. Also asked if there were
> any male household members in certain age groups which I
> forgot. I don't know why this would have made any difference
> or if I'd answered any of the questions differently if I
> wouldn't have been offered a diary.
>
> One thing that surprised me is offering a diary to more than
> one member of the household, & I'm not sure I agree that
> this should be done. At-home listening time could be
> affected by this & a radio in the kitchen during meal times
> would definitely result in one person's choice getting
> multiple mentions. Also, I wake up first & control the clock
> radio. Since I lie in bed for about a half hour listening
> before I even crawl out, there's another case where a
> station can get mentioned in more than one diary even
> thought the wake-up station is my choice. Same could be said
> for in-car listening, not so much during drive time to work
> but on weekends where more than one person in the family is
> in the same car listening to the same station.
>
> I did my diary entries in the evening, but was more
> cognizant of who I listened to in the car. I don't listen to
> the radio at work so that wasn't a factor. I'm not one of
> those impatient button-pushers but do scan around to see
> who's doing what. Still I went by the stations I actually
> spent time with, as opposed to those where I caught half a
> song I liked. I think it's inevitable that most will do this
> or diary completion would be a nightmare. It turned out they
> were my favorite stations anyway & I'm willing to bet that's
> what happens with most people. You may listen to various
> stations in the car, but remember the ones you're really
> fans of, & those are the ones you enter. Aside from the
> separate daypart entries, there is a question on the diary
> pertaining to what station I listened to the most.
>
> The survey period is Thursday through Wednesday. Does anyone
> know if this is standard for everyone or the reasoning
> behind it? My thought is that if someone is surveyed for
> weeks beginning on Monday, a vacation week could throw the
> whole thing off in terms of regular listening habits. In my
> case I actually did have a vacation week so if this had been
> my diary week it definitely would not have been indicative
> of which station I listen to & when. At least entries for
> last Thursday & Friday were the norm. The stations I entered
> didn't change any for this week, but the dayparts did
> somewhat.
>
> A few things that do come to mind: You get into this gung-ho
> at the outset, but it becomes tedious after about 3-4 days &
> I wonder how many just duplicate their entries once they
> complete a few days faithfully & accurately. Getting those
> at-work listeners has to be pretty important since with no
> opportunity for button-pushing or scanning, you end up with
> one station getting all the Xs in all those boxes & all
> those spots are getting heard too. Hence I can see how the
> "no repeat workdays" can be a big plus. I also wonder how
> many people lie about their age & income on the surveys. I
> think I once read that there's a tendency for people to do
> this even when taking anonymous surveys.
>
> I still have to wonder about the theory behind multiple
> surveys in the same household though. This would have been
> easier for TV since other than the evening news, I don't
> watch it.
>
 
> Interesting diary of a diaryholder. Thanks for sharing!
> About the vacation issue, I was wondering... Did they ask
> you if you were travelling out of the market?

No that topic never came up & in this case my vacay was spent around here anyway so there was less morning listening & more midday when I was in the car for half the survey period. The brochure states that the phone numbers are picked at random by a computer. Since I never get telemarketing or survey calls on my cell phone I wonder if people giving up their home phones is eventually going to have a major effect on how people are contacted. Between fewer home phones, families with dial-up Internet tying up the phone in the evening when kids are home, & even people just leaving their answering machines on to screen calls before they answer, some changes will probably have to be made. You may even be looking at older demographics eventually being most apt to pick up their phones at home. I also received a thank you call this morning from Arbitron. Now let's see if more dollar bills are forthcoming.
 
Hey I want to do a radio survey! Don't mean to sound childish but that's not fair that you got that call and not me. I LOVE radio! How can I get Aribtron to call me? I really want to do that survey!

> Well, I didn't want to post beforehand that we would be an
> Arbitron household for a week just not to invalidate
> anything, but the diaries are in the mail & the dollar bills
> are spent. One each when the diaries arrived, then another
> each in a reminder piece of mail. This proved more
> profitable than the dollar machines at Foxwoods.
>
> First of all I have to say the guy doing the callout for
> Arbitron was many cuts above the average telemarketing or
> survey caller I get. I'm pretty nice to callers even though
> I politely say I'm not interested & hang up before they can
> get many words in edgewise, especially since most have
> problems pronouncing the more difficult words like "mister",
> but this guy was good. Naturally the word "Arbitron" caught
> my ear anyway. A couple of days into the survey week I
> received a reminder call from a lady who was also very good.
>
>
> The initial caller asked what radio stations I'd listened to
> that day & if I listen at all to satellite or internet
> radio. Also asked if there were any black or Spanish
> speaking members in the household. Also asked if there were
> any male household members in certain age groups which I
> forgot. I don't know why this would have made any difference
> or if I'd answered any of the questions differently if I
> wouldn't have been offered a diary.
>
> One thing that surprised me is offering a diary to more than
> one member of the household, & I'm not sure I agree that
> this should be done. At-home listening time could be
> affected by this & a radio in the kitchen during meal times
> would definitely result in one person's choice getting
> multiple mentions. Also, I wake up first & control the clock
> radio. Since I lie in bed for about a half hour listening
> before I even crawl out, there's another case where a
> station can get mentioned in more than one diary even
> thought the wake-up station is my choice. Same could be said
> for in-car listening, not so much during drive time to work
> but on weekends where more than one person in the family is
> in the same car listening to the same station.
>
> I did my diary entries in the evening, but was more
> cognizant of who I listened to in the car. I don't listen to
> the radio at work so that wasn't a factor. I'm not one of
> those impatient button-pushers but do scan around to see
> who's doing what. Still I went by the stations I actually
> spent time with, as opposed to those where I caught half a
> song I liked. I think it's inevitable that most will do this
> or diary completion would be a nightmare. It turned out they
> were my favorite stations anyway & I'm willing to bet that's
> what happens with most people. You may listen to various
> stations in the car, but remember the ones you're really
> fans of, & those are the ones you enter. Aside from the
> separate daypart entries, there is a question on the diary
> pertaining to what station I listened to the most.
>
> The survey period is Thursday through Wednesday. Does anyone
> know if this is standard for everyone or the reasoning
> behind it? My thought is that if someone is surveyed for
> weeks beginning on Monday, a vacation week could throw the
> whole thing off in terms of regular listening habits. In my
> case I actually did have a vacation week so if this had been
> my diary week it definitely would not have been indicative
> of which station I listen to & when. At least entries for
> last Thursday & Friday were the norm. The stations I entered
> didn't change any for this week, but the dayparts did
> somewhat.
>
> A few things that do come to mind: You get into this gung-ho
> at the outset, but it becomes tedious after about 3-4 days &
> I wonder how many just duplicate their entries once they
> complete a few days faithfully & accurately. Getting those
> at-work listeners has to be pretty important since with no
> opportunity for button-pushing or scanning, you end up with
> one station getting all the Xs in all those boxes & all
> those spots are getting heard too. Hence I can see how the
> "no repeat workdays" can be a big plus. I also wonder how
> many people lie about their age & income on the surveys. I
> think I once read that there's a tendency for people to do
> this even when taking anonymous surveys.
>
> I still have to wonder about the theory behind multiple
> surveys in the same household though. This would have been
> easier for TV since other than the evening news, I don't
> watch it.
>
 
> Hey I want to do a radio survey! Don't mean to sound
> childish but that's not fair that you got that call and not
> me. I LOVE radio! How can I get Aribtron to call me? I
> really want to do that survey!

Do you want a diary or do you want PRO FM to stream? You can't have both. :>
 
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