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My wishlist for the Boston radio dial....
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argytunes
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WLYNgm...
If you don't want to program SOUNDTRACK scores....you don't have to! But why condemn a format that hasn't been tried?
How can you expect to have high audience numbers unless you give ANY FORMAT a try...along with some serious promotion?
That reminds me: ARE YOU REALLY SURE ALL YOUR LISTENERS ARE HAPPY? Or is WLYN's frequency the only one that comes in clearly where they happen to live? ;D
argytunes
If you don't want to program SOUNDTRACK scores....you don't have to! But why condemn a format that hasn't been tried?
How can you expect to have high audience numbers unless you give ANY FORMAT a try...along with some serious promotion?
That reminds me: ARE YOU REALLY SURE ALL YOUR LISTENERS ARE HAPPY? Or is WLYN's frequency the only one that comes in clearly where they happen to live? ;D
argytunes
Argy -
It is not that I wish to not program anything. If you are totally convinced that it will work, why don't you program it? Best of luck to you... Anyone can claim anything - until or unless you actually do it - how will you ever know? If you believe there is, indeed, an audience for this type of programming, here is your chance! If it does succeed, it is a win-win situation - your success is our success! Actions speak louder than words...
Finn -
forgive me, I did not realize you were a senorita! Always glad to talk with a lovely lady! :-* xoxoxoxox
(mama didn't raise no stupid children!)
Yea, our listeners are terribly loyal. Our programmers have a great time doing their programs, they get tons of phone calls from listeners who tune in every day to hear their favorites. They get their message out there. It really is a happy place - and that makes me happy!
It is not that I wish to not program anything. If you are totally convinced that it will work, why don't you program it? Best of luck to you... Anyone can claim anything - until or unless you actually do it - how will you ever know? If you believe there is, indeed, an audience for this type of programming, here is your chance! If it does succeed, it is a win-win situation - your success is our success! Actions speak louder than words...
Finn -
forgive me, I did not realize you were a senorita! Always glad to talk with a lovely lady! :-* xoxoxoxox
(mama didn't raise no stupid children!)
Yea, our listeners are terribly loyal. Our programmers have a great time doing their programs, they get tons of phone calls from listeners who tune in every day to hear their favorites. They get their message out there. It really is a happy place - and that makes me happy!
Here's the question at hand...
If anyone on the list had millions to invest in a radio station in Boston, would any of you invest/gamble that money on a station that played soundtrack/instrumentals?
Or would you stay with the tried and true (and safer) formats, taking a conservative approach to the money to keep you and your family secure?
If anyone on the list had millions to invest in a radio station in Boston, would any of you invest/gamble that money on a station that played soundtrack/instrumentals?
Or would you stay with the tried and true (and safer) formats, taking a conservative approach to the money to keep you and your family secure?
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Mickey37
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I would not invest in a station that played only instrumentals, be they classical pieces, rock, or ethnic. I'm not convinced there would be even close to enough of an audience to make the station sell-able.
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jane grant
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That's why we need Connie Francis soundtracks (like Where The Boys Are) with Gerald Wilson orchestrating.
And DJs who know who Gerald Wilson is and can play his theme music from 1959 TV shows. Great stuff, and there's tons of it that people would love to hear.
And DJs who know who Gerald Wilson is and can play his theme music from 1959 TV shows. Great stuff, and there's tons of it that people would love to hear.
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argytunes
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Hi Jane!
What an interesting idea! WHERE THE BOYS ARE and we could play FOLLOW THE BOYS---which was the Connie Francis sequel! [I think the both were written by the same composer?].
For Keith:
Tried and True doesn't always work! Perhaps this is one of the reasons most conventional radio station sound so stagnant? Copycatting (or watering down) existing formats is easy!
Radio used to be "theatre of the mind"---because its owners, program directors and general managers weren't afraid to take a few chances! :
For WLYNgm...
I'm happy your station sounds the way you want it to! ;D
argytunes
What an interesting idea! WHERE THE BOYS ARE and we could play FOLLOW THE BOYS---which was the Connie Francis sequel! [I think the both were written by the same composer?].
For Keith:
Tried and True doesn't always work! Perhaps this is one of the reasons most conventional radio station sound so stagnant? Copycatting (or watering down) existing formats is easy!
Radio used to be "theatre of the mind"---because its owners, program directors and general managers weren't afraid to take a few chances! :
For WLYNgm...
I'm happy your station sounds the way you want it to! ;D
argytunes
Radio used to be "theatre of the mind"---because its owners, program directors and general managers weren't afraid to take a few chances!
Nor were independent program developers and producers.
I suppose I could offer another new programming idea that's not present in the market right now. But after being told that an FM Soundtrack/Film Score format wouldn't work (by others who are convinced no one would buy it)...I'm reluctant to toss out a 2nd idea for a format.
If two people commenting that your proposed format didn't seem a guaranteed slam-dunk were enough to get you to forego giving it a shot, it wasn't such a great idea from the beginning. I don't see why you'd expect others to have more faith in it than you do/did.
Regards,
TSB
Nor were independent program developers and producers.
I suppose I could offer another new programming idea that's not present in the market right now. But after being told that an FM Soundtrack/Film Score format wouldn't work (by others who are convinced no one would buy it)...I'm reluctant to toss out a 2nd idea for a format.
If two people commenting that your proposed format didn't seem a guaranteed slam-dunk were enough to get you to forego giving it a shot, it wasn't such a great idea from the beginning. I don't see why you'd expect others to have more faith in it than you do/did.
Regards,
TSB
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argytunes
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TSB...
If I got discouraged because 2 people weren't particularly fond of one of my ideas---I never would've succeeded in creating Halloween or Christmas Radio Shows (with appropriate stories)---artist tributes---or letting country listeners "program" their favorite songs!
But by the same token...it seems foolish to share another programming idea if the naysayers are going to automatically SHOOT IT DOWN! I'd rather chat with people who are open to trying something different on the air. Beats the hell out of listening to others who have already made up their minds that an untried idea won't work! :
argytunes
If I got discouraged because 2 people weren't particularly fond of one of my ideas---I never would've succeeded in creating Halloween or Christmas Radio Shows (with appropriate stories)---artist tributes---or letting country listeners "program" their favorite songs!
But by the same token...it seems foolish to share another programming idea if the naysayers are going to automatically SHOOT IT DOWN! I'd rather chat with people who are open to trying something different on the air. Beats the hell out of listening to others who have already made up their minds that an untried idea won't work! :
argytunes
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jane grant
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a soundtrack format IS viable. The problem is with fewer indy owners, there is less risk-taking and less ability to work outside of pre-created formats that come out of company headquarters. That's why you get David Lee Roth, who is better off doing a Senior Set Reunion tour than being on radio.
Step up to the plate and take a swing - try it yourself for one hour per week. If that works, expand to 2 hours per week, etc. To keep saying something will work, in which you personally do not believe enough to take a shot, will not gain any credibility for your position. If one other person agrees with you, they can defray some of the costs involved. You say that you have a credible idea. Actions speak louder than rhetoric. Let's see your cards...
I accidentally stumbled onto the Boston board and saw this subject.
From a Jersey boy, I wish WBZ would turn off that damn IBOC hash slinger at night so I can once again listen to KDKA. It is now GONE from the dial.
I grew up in Suburban Philly listening to Larry Glick at night. I wish he were back. Do I get a third wish?
From a Jersey boy, I wish WBZ would turn off that damn IBOC hash slinger at night so I can once again listen to KDKA. It is now GONE from the dial.
I grew up in Suburban Philly listening to Larry Glick at night. I wish he were back. Do I get a third wish?
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jane grant
Guest
WLYN GM says:
Actions speak louder than rhetoric. Let's see your cards.
Step up to the plate and take a swing - try it yourself for one hour per week"
IT's not a bad idea on a station that plays similar music, say WJIB. They have a signal and a format that
would be appropriate for what we're discussing. However it appears disingenuous when a station that brokers
time dares people who are just toying with hypotheticals. Maybe WLYN should take a chance on formats that
the GM believes in - other than getting big bucks for everyone else's dreams. A great format on a bad station can end up like Progressive Talk in Boston. Who wants to spend good money after a bad signal? The only
viable option would be WJIB, but we on this board have a right to chat about what we want to hear without being interrupted after every post.
Actions speak louder than rhetoric. Let's see your cards.
Step up to the plate and take a swing - try it yourself for one hour per week"
IT's not a bad idea on a station that plays similar music, say WJIB. They have a signal and a format that
would be appropriate for what we're discussing. However it appears disingenuous when a station that brokers
time dares people who are just toying with hypotheticals. Maybe WLYN should take a chance on formats that
the GM believes in - other than getting big bucks for everyone else's dreams. A great format on a bad station can end up like Progressive Talk in Boston. Who wants to spend good money after a bad signal? The only
viable option would be WJIB, but we on this board have a right to chat about what we want to hear without being interrupted after every post.
Best of luck to you Jane. It is Jane, isn't it? Chat away When and if you ever have any actual results, please
come let us all know. I'm guessing that you're only holding a pair of deuces...
come let us all know. I'm guessing that you're only holding a pair of deuces...
TSB...
If I got discouraged because 2 people weren't particularly fond of one of my ideas---I never would've succeeded in creating Halloween or Christmas Radio Shows (with appropriate stories)---artist tributes---or letting country listeners "program" their favorite songs!
I was responding to your posting here, and the corresponding replies. I didn’t expect the folks who thought it was a good idea to volunteer to roll the dice with you, quite the opposite. Talk is cheap, and message boards are the bargain basement of cheap talk.
I was thinking that maybe you wanted to roll the dice with it. Not wanting to doesn’t reflect on you one way or the other. You’ve made a business decision which you think is the right one. Since it’s not my money, it’s not my business. In business you’re always your own best friend.
But by the same token it seems foolish to share another programming idea if the naysayers are going to automatically SHOOT IT DOWN!
Why not? Since nobody is willing to go for it, it seems that none of these ideas are ever going to happen, so why not have a strictly academic discussion? Why worry about naysayers, since none of them were ever, now or later, going to be in the equation?
Unfortunately, all the speculation and 'whaddya think's becomes a little stale after a while, sort of like discussing how great it would be to have a SUV that got unlimited mileage using a photon engine. That’s nice, but so what? If you had some ham, we could make a sandwich, if I had some bread.
I didn’t think it would fly as a station format, but I did think that if it was going to happen, it would have to be as a stand-alone program. That’s why the Sid Mark Sinatra example.
I posted that it has never been easier to produce, syndicate, and distribute a radio program, and it’s absolutely true. When I was producing programs, I had a few which did just OK, some real OK, some losers which, although I didn’t lose my shirt, I lost a sleeve and a couple of buttons, and a couple where I made a bundle. I was a genius one day, and an idiot the next. If I was doing it today, I would have lost less with the losers, and made more with the ok ones and the winners, all thanks to technology. And el cheapo technology at that. My office phone bill 15 years ago was probably higher than the cost of actually producing the average program today. Hell, I paid 3 grand for a computer which today Waste Management would be embarrassed to take to the dump.
If it’s not going to happen today, it’s not going to happen ever.
It might have been a bad idea. It might have been a good idea. It may have been the biggest money maker,or loser, in the history of the medium. We’re never going to know.
Regards,
TSB
If I got discouraged because 2 people weren't particularly fond of one of my ideas---I never would've succeeded in creating Halloween or Christmas Radio Shows (with appropriate stories)---artist tributes---or letting country listeners "program" their favorite songs!
I was responding to your posting here, and the corresponding replies. I didn’t expect the folks who thought it was a good idea to volunteer to roll the dice with you, quite the opposite. Talk is cheap, and message boards are the bargain basement of cheap talk.
I was thinking that maybe you wanted to roll the dice with it. Not wanting to doesn’t reflect on you one way or the other. You’ve made a business decision which you think is the right one. Since it’s not my money, it’s not my business. In business you’re always your own best friend.
But by the same token it seems foolish to share another programming idea if the naysayers are going to automatically SHOOT IT DOWN!
Why not? Since nobody is willing to go for it, it seems that none of these ideas are ever going to happen, so why not have a strictly academic discussion? Why worry about naysayers, since none of them were ever, now or later, going to be in the equation?
Unfortunately, all the speculation and 'whaddya think's becomes a little stale after a while, sort of like discussing how great it would be to have a SUV that got unlimited mileage using a photon engine. That’s nice, but so what? If you had some ham, we could make a sandwich, if I had some bread.
I didn’t think it would fly as a station format, but I did think that if it was going to happen, it would have to be as a stand-alone program. That’s why the Sid Mark Sinatra example.
I posted that it has never been easier to produce, syndicate, and distribute a radio program, and it’s absolutely true. When I was producing programs, I had a few which did just OK, some real OK, some losers which, although I didn’t lose my shirt, I lost a sleeve and a couple of buttons, and a couple where I made a bundle. I was a genius one day, and an idiot the next. If I was doing it today, I would have lost less with the losers, and made more with the ok ones and the winners, all thanks to technology. And el cheapo technology at that. My office phone bill 15 years ago was probably higher than the cost of actually producing the average program today. Hell, I paid 3 grand for a computer which today Waste Management would be embarrassed to take to the dump.
If it’s not going to happen today, it’s not going to happen ever.
It might have been a bad idea. It might have been a good idea. It may have been the biggest money maker,or loser, in the history of the medium. We’re never going to know.
Regards,
TSB
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argytunes
Guest
TSB:
Since these are generic discussion boards...they're open to positive and negative opinions!
My reluctance to give away programming suggestions comes from the plain and simple fact that a new idea often gets cheapened or twisted---because a radio GM or PD doesn't want to invest the time and/or the budget to make the idea work! :
What's the point of giving away all the free samples only to be shot down before a new product is even marketed? ???
argytunes
Since these are generic discussion boards...they're open to positive and negative opinions!
My reluctance to give away programming suggestions comes from the plain and simple fact that a new idea often gets cheapened or twisted---because a radio GM or PD doesn't want to invest the time and/or the budget to make the idea work! :
What's the point of giving away all the free samples only to be shot down before a new product is even marketed? ???
argytunes
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