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MyNetworkTV Screeners Are In - Oh My God

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If I were a local TV station that got left out by the merger of UPN and the WB, I'd think twice about how happy I'd be with an affiliation to MyNetworkTV.

Screeners Are In! In short, if you enjoy Kazakh State Television-style production values and Fashion Models, you're going to LOVE MyNetworkTV!

Sent to affiliates just in time for their run next week, Desire and Fashion House are the shows this network feels are the best ones to put forward first, and that my friends is not a good sign.

These two shows have redefined cheap television. Hell, these shows have redefined public access cable shows! At first, I thought I was watching some sort of blooper joke reel until the shows just kept rolling on and on. It started bad and got worse.

* Set design by a JCPenney store near you. Your local mall outlet puts out a better display. In later shows, it looks like Pier One has taken over. Fake plants do not hide the silly fake sets. Wicker should not be a lifestyle choice. In some cases, it is obvious they redressed the same set for multiple location shoots.

* The extras are the actors. Very pretty and... well, they are very pretty. Models That Think They Can Act. Evidently they ran out of money paying Bo Derek and Morgan Fairchild, because the supporting cast wouldn't have made the cut at many high school drama productions. Enjoy the Sophia Coppola-style wooden acting, the tennis match eyes as actors recite their lines off teleprompters or cue cards, and the pregnant pauses when bad lines escape their memory. But this is from Fox, so remember they are pretty. This stuff makes One Life to Live look like Shakespeare.

* Like a porn set (and the plot lines alone will remind you of one), the rule of thumb here seems to be - keep rolling no matter what! No soap opera on daytime television would let pass some of the stumbles on later shows where actors screw up their lines and just keep on going. Enjoy the offstage antics as you hear a production assistant drop a folder just off camera and you hear papers drop to the floor, with one becoming visible in the corner of the camera shot. Listen to light fixtures buzz. Most amusing of all, watch actors in one scene deal with a pesky fly or bee that intruded on the set and divebombed the actors (an insect critic I guess). They didn't cut and run.

* And the worst for last - the writing... oh the writing. Take a machismo based telenovela straight out of Latin America, do a quickie translation into English, and set the women's movement back 20 years.

The words "inept," "moronic," "amatuerish," and "cynically exploitive" do not begin to describe these Category 5 disasters. The only thing good to say about them is that they're over as quick as they came - 13 episodes that took about four days to shoot, and at least Fashion House could be described as "campy-bad fun" ...if you were stoned. Or you could just turn the sound off and imagine you are watching an all-pretty people edition of Jerry Springer. The acting there is about on par with what we've got here.

TV stations - relive the glory days of independent status instead. Space:1999 reruns are a better choice.
 
Not to mention there is no star power on either show. Desire's cast is full of unknowns, and Fashion House, which I think has a little potential, has Bo Derek and Morgan Fairchild, two actresses who never were. ::)
 
Our soon-to-be-MY station, WCTX-TV/DT channel 59 of New Haven runs New York Yankees baseball. Once that's over, I'll probably never watch the station again! Say, how do you know so much about these shows already?
 
I expected that these shows would be cheaply made, but damn if they don't sound even cheaper than I would have thought. I'll have to tune in to my local affiliate this Tuesday just to see these trainwrecks.
 
It's interesting you should say this. The early clips I've seen on the local station here showed me the opposite. I thought they were a bit better produced than that crap Univision shows. It's possible the My Network folks did a great job on the early promotional videos only to go dirt cheap on the show itself. I guess we'll see for sure on Tuesday night, although I'll probably record it since that's also House's season debut.
 
With the tripe that passes for programming today, the shows will play to an admiring audience--one that doesn't know any better, or care.
 
nuzguy said:
With the tripe that passes for programming today, the shows will play to an admiring audience--one that doesn't know any better, or care.

I don't see this format catching on at all. Even if the shows were really, really good, we're still talking about daytime-style soaps in prime time. The audience isn't there. At best, the eye candy factor might get lonely stoners to tune in...and My will still get beaten in the ratings by Mama's Family reruns on 'i'.
 
I wish that was true in Memphis. Unfortunately, WPXX 50, the i station in Memphis, is going to carry MNTV in place of i's prime time lineup. Now that i is starting to possibly give Nick at Nite and TV Land some competition, WPXX switches to this garbage. :mad:
 
If what you're saying is true, then I will tune out WRJM Channel 67 and watch my local "I" station. Oh yeah, the Montgomery market doesn't even have one. Oops, I'll just have to watch the Dish Network's National feed, to see the great shows, I grew up on.

R.D.P. <><

P.S. They can keep their soap operas. :( I would rather have Mama's Family, over them anyway. :)
 
R.D.P. said:
If what you're saying is true, then I will tune out WRJM Channel 67 and watch my local "I" station. Oh yeah, the Montgomery market doesn't even have one. Oops, I'll just have to watch the Dish Network's National feed, to see the great shows, I grew up on.

R.D.P. <><

P.S. They can keep their soap operas. :( I would rather have Mama's Family, over them anyway. :)

Montgomery does indeed have an "i" affiliate, but it consists of rimshot LPs in Wetumpka and Alexander City. I've DX'd WAXC-LP/25 before. I'm surprised that the cable companies there don't carry either one of those or WPXH.
 
RDP,
I'll just say that WPXX is owned by Dr. George Flinn. That should tell you what's wrong with the management there.

Thankfully, where I live I can get i's national feed on my cable system.
 
clichemoth said:
I don't see this format catching on at all. Even if the shows were really, really good, we're still talking about daytime-style soaps in prime time. The audience isn't there. At best, the eye candy factor might get lonely stoners to tune in...and My will still get beaten in the ratings by Mama's Family reruns on 'i'.

Continuing storyline strip prime-time programming won't work because you'll more or less need to see each night's episode. And when the new episode of the novela is up against Grey's Anatomy, Lost, American Idol, CSI, etc., most people won't choose that night's episode of the novela. And thus, they get lost.
 
I have been able to see some extended samples of these shows that were sent out and there are a few thing to keep in mind:

First, these were not absolutely completed productions. There was a 'warning' indicating the episodes were still rough cuts and had not been completed entirely. I don't know if my sample was the same as the OP's, but if it was, that is something to keep in mind.

Second, some of the technical flubs are in later episodes, which was surprising to me because you'd think they would improve. I suspect time constraints from what must be a brutal taping schedule caused a lot of this. Also, I have no idea the original order these episodes were taped. It wouldn't surprise me in several different episodes had scenes shot over the course of one day, especially if set teardown was involved.

Third, the most valid criticism is in the acting and scripts. Both are AWFUL. The only thing going for the cast here is looks. Desire is worse than Fashion House in every respect. The former is like a really bad OC, only with more sex. And the OP is correct about the values represented in the story arc. They are overly tolerant of a Latino machismo culture and reduce most of their women characters into scheming to land their man and the resulting "bitch fights" when the scheme unravels.

Fashion House has two washed up names, but at least that is something. It reminded me of a low budget Devil Wears Prada.

The bottom line here is "what is Fox thinking?" Soap operas as a genre can be surprisingly good when they move beyond endless relationship squabbles and fashion model voguing. The glory years of General Hospital provide an excellent example. But even the lesser ones face competition only from other soap operas, talk shows, or reruns on cable networks. During prime time, I have to ask, for what reason would any viewer feel compelled to choose this low budget drivel when they have original shows from four major networks plus the CW? Telenovelas are wildly popular in countries where, let's face it, the competition they face on the air is mostly subtitled or dubbed imported American shows or state television. If Mexican television networks were producing CSI, Lost, or even Law & Order, would viewers still be clamoring for prime time soaps?

If they cannot answer that question, they've just reinvented Pax, only they dragged it through the red light district. And those stations left out of the CW affiliate grab, many of whom are in the largest markets in the country, really need to ask themselves why a station in a top 10 market should feel this is the best they can offer their millions of potential viewers. Being a true independent and running evergreen shows, movies, or even time shifted local newscasts would probably bring more viewers than this kind of programming concept.

In every respect, MyNetworkTV is a very bad idea from people who should know better.
 
>>>>>Continuing storyline strip prime-time programming won't work because you'll more or less need to see each night's episode. And when the new episode of the novela is up against Grey's Anatomy, Lost, American Idol, CSI, etc., most people won't choose that night's episode of the novela. And thus, they get lost.

Fox is about to learn why other networks run their 5-day a week soaps during the **daytime.**
 
Hi everyone:
pabsungenis said:
clichemoth said:
I don't see this format catching on at all. Even if the shows were really, really good, we're still talking about daytime-style soaps in prime time. The audience isn't there. At best, the eye candy factor might get lonely stoners to tune in...and My will still get beaten in the ratings by Mama's Family reruns on 'i'.

Continuing storyline strip prime-time programming won't work because you'll more or less need to see each night's episode. And when the new episode of the novela is up against Grey's Anatomy, Lost, American Idol, CSI, etc., most people won't choose that night's episode of the novela. And thus, they get lost.
The formula can succeed IF they use the same formula (Minus the hour-by-hour part as that wouldn't be neccessary) that's made 24 so successful for all these years.

That said though, My Network REALLY needs MORE SHOWS. Without that, they may as well be run like Desire & Fashion House like the other major network ran the primetime soaps of the 1980s. ONCE A WEEK with the rest of the week returned back to the affiliates until they find new shows. If they don't do this, I wouldn't be surprised to see TheOC being moved off the FOX network and onto MY instead as MY will need TheOC just to survive (Especially if those shows are as bad as everyone here thinks they are).

Just my opinion :D
 
Pat Cook said:
The formula can succeed IF they use the same formula (Minus the hour-by-hour part as that wouldn't be neccessary) that's made 24 so successful for all these years.

I think you missed the point. The issue isn't whether or not a multi-episode arc can succeed; that's been proven by 24, Wise Guy, and other shows. At issue is the fact that where 24 airs once a week, the MyNovelas will air nightly, where it will be easier to miss an episode or two, and thus, lose the storyline.
 
Prediction

PREDICTION: One of the existing daytime soaps will migrate to fill one hour of MyTime. Maybe not in 2006-2007, but by January 2008, a bidding war will erupt and one soap will be PrimeTime. ABC owns its shows, so scratch those. I think Proctor+Gamble own most of the CBS ones. NBC owns "Passions".

Hmmm, I think the Corday family just got a brief two-year renewal for Days Of Our Lives. And NBC wanted (and got) huge cost cutbacks. Hmmm, toss in a few more bucks and get 40+ years of loyal fanbase.....
 
It would appear they will operate it much like SoapNet does - if you miss an episode during the week, its not a big deal as they will recap the 5 shows on Saturdays. SoapNet does the same thing if you miss during the week, they rerun the whole 5 shows on Saturday or Sunday depending on which show it is. I have friends who watch the spanish soaps without fail, so I am sure that in cities with a high spanish audience, they may do real good. Time will tell.
 
Hi everyone:
dhett said:
Pat Cook said:
The formula can succeed IF they use the same formula (Minus the hour-by-hour part as that wouldn't be neccessary) that's made 24 so successful for all these years.

I think you missed the point. The issue isn't whether or not a multi-episode arc can succeed; that's been proven by 24, Wise Guy, and other shows. At issue is the fact that where 24 airs once a week, the MyNovelas will air nightly, where it will be easier to miss an episode or two, and thus, lose the storyline.
No I didn't miss the point. I simply said that those shows (And ultimately MyNet itself) would do better if Desire & Fashion House they aired on a weekly basis instead of a nightly one.

That said though, if the production quality is as cheap as videotape used to record daytime soaps with, but in letterbox format, it won't matter as people will get a quick look at that and quickly tune out anyway REGARDLESS of how good (or bad) the acting is.

Just my opinion :)

Cheers :D
 
Re: Prediction

Hi everyone:
Bear4Two said:
PREDICTION: One of the existing daytime soaps will migrate to fill one hour of MyTime. Maybe not in 2006-2007, but by January 2008, a bidding war will erupt and one soap will be PrimeTime. ABC owns its shows, so scratch those. I think Proctor+Gamble own most of the CBS ones. NBC owns "Passions".
Forget it. NBC nor CBS won't let that happen. CBS has The CW to turn to if they wanted to put As The World Turns or The Young & The Restless on in primetime (or create spinoffs thereof) and NBC just simply hates FOX anyway.

Plus, I seriously doubt Bill Bell will take such a huge gamble with his established shows. If anything, he'll create original ones for MyNet.
Hmmm, I think the Corday family just got a brief two-year renewal for Days Of Our Lives. And NBC wanted (and got) huge cost cutbacks. Hmmm, toss in a few more bucks and get 40+ years of loyal fanbase.....
Yeah. All on NBC.

Cheers :D
 
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