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N/T host want's Opie and Anthony fired

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evnlee

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http://townhall.com/columnists/colu...lBoortz&dt=05/10/2007&page=full&comments=true

Drudge posted this yesterday. Since it appeared on Drudge, you can rest assured that by today everybody in a position of power over radio – that would be politicians – have either heard it or heard about it.

What am I talking about? It's an excerpt from the Opie and Anthony show on XM Satellite radio. These two pigs were once on broadcast radio, but they lost their jobs when they thought it might be cute to send some listeners out to have sex in a church.

Now before you get to the link .. I want to warn you what you're about to hear is vile, repulsive and disgusting. These two jerks had someone on their show named "Homeless Charlie." The person was either black or using a black accent. Charlie begins to discuss having sex with Condi Rice. In fact, what he was talking about was raping the Secretary of State. Then, in similarly vulgar terms, he talked about having sex with Laura Bush and the Queen of England. When you click on this link (if the server isn't slammed by now) you're going to hear extremely disgusting language ... so be prepared. OK, here's the link.

http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=450

So .. how did you like that? Pretty pathetic, wasn't it? This was the product of two extremely immature and sick people trying to be cute by seeing just how far they can push the envelope.

Now I don't know what other radio hosts might have to say about this today, but I most certainly have something on my mind, and if you chose to read on you're going to get an earful.

These two pathetic bastards need to be removed from XM satellite radio right now. Today. No suspension. No warning. Fire them. Now.

By the end of the day today you're going to hear liberals in congress and the media referring to these two jackasses as talk show hosts. Comparisons will be drawn between them and people like Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage and myself. You'll hear the phrases "hate speech" and "hate radio" over and over again as these leftists push their Stalinist-inspired plans to destroy conservative and libertarian talk radio. By the time the dust has settled the majority of the people in this country --- who don't by the way, listen to talk radio --- will absolutely believe in their hearts that this Opie and Anthony stunt is representative of all talk radio, and these people will be eager to support their politicians in their goal to shut us all down.

Right now we have a little gem called H.R. 3302, the "Media Ownership Reform Act," in the congress. H.R. 3302 is a project of DC Democrats who know that conservative talk radio constitutes a real threat to their plans for total victory in 2008. If H.R. 3302 were to become law, talk radio as you know it would be dead inside of nine months. Period. Thanks to the antics of these two idiots there will be more congressmen who will be willing to join in this and other efforts to control broadcast radio and, incidentally, to control satellite broadcasting as well.

Over the years there have been no shortages of politicians, from both sides of the aisle, who have wanted to initiate more government control of content on satellite radio and TV. Power-hungry politicians around the world know that one of the keys to gaining and then holding political power is to control the means by information is disseminated to the population. U.S. politicians know that they're chances of exercising direct government control over the printed media – that, for those of you who went to government schools, would include newspapers – were limited to slim and none. We have the First Amendment to thank for that. But by the time broadcasting came around politicians were savvy enough to find a way around the First Amendment in their goal of controlling broadcast content. The created this ridiculous fiction of "the public's airwaves" and have exploited that asinine idea to their benefit for years. Now they're working to increase that control through H.R. 3302 and, at the same time, considering ways to spread their control to satellite radio. After all, don't those satellite signals come through those very same airwaves that the politicians claim are owned by the people?

Opie and Anthony just gave these control-freak politicians a huge bit of leverage with their crude little skit about raping the Secretary of State and the First Lady. Oh .. and throw in the Queen also. What fun. What incredible talents these two [EDIT]are.

Those of us in talk radio, both broadcast and satellite owe it to our country and to our listeners to rise up in outrage against these disgusting shock jocks and demand their immediate dismissal from XM. If XM doesn't want to act then we should consider canceling our subscriptions. I'm serious. I mean it.

And don't give me that "free speech" nonsense either. I know that many of you were educated by the government, but you don't have to go around advertising it, do you?

The free speech guarantees of the First Amendment only apply to actions by government, not by private entities. The government cannot use its exclusive franchise on the right to use force in order to prevent you from speaking our mind ... but your employer damn sure can. Not by force, mind you, but by job action.

Free speech does not mean that you have the right to say anything you damned well please on any radio station or any private satellite cannel. Whoever owns and controls that station and/or satellite has every right in the world to control content. Opie and Anthony are content. XM ought to show some responsibility ... now ... today.

Get rid of them.

Exercise some responsible control.


[EDIT-profanity]
 
Seems to me O&A are doing exactly what they were hired to do: provide "adult" radio content via a pay service.

I agree that the "fairness doctrine" should be opposed, but I don't agree that these subscription-based talk hosts should be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness. That seems like cowardice to me.
 
FTL_Ian said:
Seems to me O&A are doing exactly what they were hired to do: provide "adult" radio content via a pay service.

I agree that the "fairness doctrine" should be opposed, but I don't agree that these subscription-based talk hosts should be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness. That seems like cowardice to me.

There is something "correct" about raping a women? [EDIT] This vile disgusting material should not be allowed to be "profitized" by any Wall Street company. You and everyone else should support their FIRING IMMEDIATELY.


[EDIT-inflammatory]
 
Careful now, don't put words in my mouth. I never said I liked their content. Some people do, and they're willing to pay for it. XM knew in advance that their content was going to be "extreme"; that's why their channel is labeled "extreme language".

If XM decides it wants to change its business model, then that's their decision.

How exactly am I a coward? (His original accusation was excised by moderator.)
 
There is something "correct" about raping a women?

No, but there is something "politically" correct about reacting to a description of an imaginary crime that never happened as if the imaginary account of a fictitious crime were as bad as the real thing.
 
Radio_Realist said:
There is something "correct" about raping a women?

No, but there is something "politically" correct about reacting to a description of an imaginary crime that never happened as if the imaginary account of a fictitious crime were as bad as the real thing.
What is "politcally correct" about responding to tasteless, vile horrific comments that included laughing about raping a woman? What society has dived so low that the community standards allow rape to be something funny? Then I ask you is it fine to discuss how to murder people on the air? Discuss about how to have sex with animals on the air? What "level" are we going with this next?

We need to return to some moral standards. If the satcasters won't self-police themselves, I am all for regulation. Same goes for cable tv and the internet.

FIRE OPIE AND ANTHONY NOW. CBS should fire them as well as XM.

BTW, I am a Reagan Republican. If there is anything that I am not, it's being "politically correct". Just see my posting history.
 
FTL_Ian said:
Careful now, don't put words in my mouth. I never said I liked their content. Some people do, and they're willing to pay for it. XM knew in advance that their content was going to be "extreme"; that's why their channel is labeled "extreme language".

If XM decides it wants to change its business model, then that's their decision.

How exactly am I a coward? (His original accusation was excised by moderator.)

No, it is not just up to XM to decide their fate. It is up to the marketplace and community standards. They, O&A, have failed to meet them and must be fired. You'll be hearing from woman's groups soon asking for their heads. Rightly so.

You are a coward to not stand against this disgusting, degrading material that should never be tolerated in the marketplace. There is NO EXCUSE to air content anytime, anywhere or in any manner about laughing about brutally raping a woman.

If the moderator thinks what I wrote should be edited, he'd be perfect for a job at XM. Then this would never have made it to air.
 
What society has dived so low that the community standards allow rape to be something funny?

American society is what has dived so low. More specifically, the concept of "multi-culturalism" has encouraged the fragmentation of society to the point that these is no such thing as "American Society". What has replaced it is a plehtora of "communities", defined by common interests, attitudes, etc. In our brave, new multi-cultural world, what offends the standards of one community might not offend another community. And since no one is permitted to be judgemental anymore, and since all opinions on cultural matters are equal, it is up to each person to decide for him or her self what they regard as acceptable or not. However, such judgements of issues of "right" and "wrong" may not be imposed on others, as those things are not absolutes. "Right" and "wrong" are merely abstract terms that everyone decides for him or her self.
 
mostb1 said:
We need to return to some moral standards.

Whose moral standards? Yours?

If the satcasters won't self-police themselves, I am all for regulation. Same goes for cable tv and the internet.

I see, so if the market doesn't do what you want it to then you run to big mommy government to enforce your moral system on others at the point of a gun. Pointing guns at people doesn't sound very moral to me.
 
mostb1 said:
You are a coward to not stand against this disgusting, degrading material that should never be tolerated in the marketplace.

Sounds to me like you're the coward for running to the state when you hear something you don't like.

Personally, I don't tolerate that material. I am not a subscriber. However, I would never consider enforcing my set of preferences on anyone else. I guess I'm just not a busybody like you.
 
My good friend evnlee is being remarkably inconsistent about this issue. Just a few weeks ago, he was agreeing with me that Imus should not be fired over his remarks on his radio show because the man was put on the air exactly for that reason - to push buttons and be outrageous. Now he wants the heads of Opie & Anthony who moved to XM, an unregulated spectrum, for their latest antics?

Flip flop.

O&A were hired by XM to be completely outrageous, and that is exactly what they are doing. Why should they be fired for being themselves? I don't personally spend even a second listening to their trash talk, but let's get real here - XM is a subscription radio service that does not force anyone to listen to anything. You can even block their channel if you don't like it.

Considering the outrageous nonsense we have to endure from the Limbaugh's, Savage's, and that paragon of total mediocrity Glenn Beck, why is that stuff okay and O&A aren't? For the record, I don't want any of them fired.

At least be consistent.
 
Imus was fired and Opie and Anthony are suspended for the same reason: Their employers were looking out for their respective business interests. MSNBC and CBS because of loss of advertising revenue. XM probably because they fear, not irrationally, that doing nothing will irritate the wrong people in government and jeopardize the proposed merger. XM listeners can cancel if they don't like it and according to news reports, many of them are.
Besides trying to punish these companies economically there's nothing else they can do.

Since I never listened in the first place, I don't care if they are on the air or not. There aren't any First Amendment issues at stake. I don't like the fact that our country's culture is so far in the sewer that Opie and Anthony have a substantial following but it is, they do, and there's nothing I can do about it. I'm not someone who believes the government can influence culture, at least not in a positive way.

Anybody hear or read anything about Al Sharpton expressing outrage about two white guys yucking it up about their fantasy about raping a black woman? Me neither.
 
Phillip Dampier said:
My good friend evnlee is being remarkably inconsistent about this issue. Just a few weeks ago, he was agreeing with me that Imus should not be fired over his remarks on his radio show because the man was put on the air exactly for that reason - to push buttons and be outrageous. Now he wants the heads of Opie & Anthony who moved to XM, an unregulated spectrum, for their latest antics?

Flip flop.

O&A were hired by XM to be completely outrageous, and that is exactly what they are doing. Why should they be fired for being themselves? I don't personally spend even a second listening to their trash talk, but let's get real here - XM is a subscription radio service that does not force anyone to listen to anything. You can even block their channel if you don't like it.

Considering the outrageous nonsense we have to endure from the Limbaugh's, Savage's, and that paragon of total mediocrity Glenn Beck, why is that stuff okay and O&A aren't? For the record, I don't want any of them fired.

At least be consistent.


Phillip, I'm with you on this one. My post was pointing out what Boortz said about OnA, not me. I agree with you that they shouldn't have been suspended. They are not my cup of tea, but I don't want them pulled.

Might want to brush up on your reading skills. The thread topic says 'N/T host want's Opie and Anthony fired', not Evnlee. Now go pour a nice glass of merlot and put on some ambient music ;)

Phillip, I am honored to be a 'good friend' of yours. Consider yourself part of the family! I just dont know how to quit you, you rascal you! ;D
 
I have to think that anyone who can't tell the difference between simply insulting a group of people, regardless of how intense the insult it, and advocating the commission a violent criminal act against a specific individual has no business being in a position where a sense of judgement is required.

Insulting people is one thing.

Advocating the commission of a felony against an individual is another.
 
Radio_Realist said:
I have to think that anyone who can't tell the difference between simply insulting a group of people, regardless of how intense the insult it, and advocating the commission a violent criminal act against a specific individual has no business being in a position where a sense of judgement is required.

true enough. But they were on XM, where a sense of judgement is not required. At least it didn't used to be.

If you listen to the clip in question, it was them interviewing a homeless comic, and he was the one that wanted to commit the violent act, not OnA.

They should have distanced themselves from that remark, and said something along the lines of " ahhh, I dont think that's a good idea, there, homeless Charlie....' but they didn't and now they are suspended. But I still dont think they should have been removed because it's not like they said ' you know, I'd kinda like to rape Condi Rice...' it was a guy they were interviewing. They should have just banned the homeless comic from appearing on the show anymore, fined them, and made them apologise. JMHO.
 
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