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Per a VARTV story, why is the NAACP protesting this show in Richmond? <P ID="signature">______________
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> Per a VARTV story, why is the NAACP protesting this show in
> Richmond?
>


Hi Steve, The reason why the NAACP is doing this is actually a legit one. It is the usage of the "N" word in a BULK of the show. Now, I stand by them on this, frankly, that type of language has NO business being used on the air at all. Bear in mind, there was a DJ in DC that got fired for using the same word. Then again, Greaseman is NOT african american, Star and Buc Wild are. They, I am sure going to use that word now even more than ever, just to be disrespectful to their own self esteem(which has to be real low to use that word so much). I actually do back the NAACP on this, they are actually doing something that allows people to see this show for what it really is, ghetto trash on the morning radio airwaves. It makes me miss Eric E Stanley, who was full of class and style, just like Kirby Charmichael, Juan Conde and many others here! They never had to stoop to such a low and degrading level to get listeners, they were not only respectful, but very popular with their listeners!

I think that CC is desparate. Bubba the Love Sponge got fired. Elliot will NEVER be a CC syndicated guy except for here and his home market in DC. So, now it's up to these two ghetto idiots that are trying to get ratings. Well, safe to say, I would listen to Star and Buc Wilk, when it snows in h*ll blizard style.
 
Star doesn't refer to himself as an African-American, he's a man of color. An American Negro. Get it straight, the reason people in Richmond don't understand the show is because most African-Americans here are afraid of Star, this coming from an African-American. I know firsthand, becuase I hear people say that he's said Mother F----- live on-air, which I know is a BOLD-FACED LIE. They hear what they want to hear, and it sickens me. Why do they want to silence Star & Buc Wild: for personal reasons, especially from the NAACP. From African-Americans that I have come in contact with, they say he doesn't sound black. How do you sound black? That's another topic for another message board.


Point blank: Richmond, socially and from a diverse point of view, is one of the worst cities to live in. And the reaction to the Star & Buc Wild Morning Show is nothing but living proof. <P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Frank C. on 08/20/05 07:46 AM.</FONT></P>
 
Frank,
Some excellent points and questions you bring up! I would like to see more opinion from other RInfo members on your thoughts. I too would like to see the subject about "sounding" black, white or whatever, commented on from a programming perspective. No doubt a station wants their jocks to fit their format, but are they researching the market first to determine what listeners expect, or are they pushing and imposing their ideas of a jocks sound to try to influence or perpetuate change?

Real food for thought here radio people...and Frank started it all. Great post!

Steve


> Star doesn't refer to himself as an African-American, he's a
> man of color. An American Negro. Get it straight, the reason
> people in Richmond don't understand the show is because most
> African-Americans here are afraid of Star, this coming from
> an African-American. I know firsthand, becuase I hear people
> say that he's said Mother F----- live on-air, which I know
> is a BOLD-FACED LIE. They hear what they want to hear, and
> it sickens me. Why do they want to silence Star & Buc Wild:
> for personal reasons, especially from the NAACP. From
> African-Americans that I have come in contact with, they say
> he doesn't sound black. How do you sound black? That's
> another topic for another message board.
>
>
> Point blank: Richmond, socially and from a diverse point of
> view, is one of the worst cities to live in. And the
> reaction to the Star & Buc Wild Morning Show is nothing but
> living proof.
> <P ID="signature">______________
Steve Shannon WELK,WINA
Steve Hendrix WRVQ,WRNL,WLEE
Starr Stevens WROV,WXIL,WKEE
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Kelly Wayne WTVR,WKEZ
www.wrovhistory.com
</P>
 
> Star doesn't refer to himself as an African-American, he's a
> man of color. An American Negro. Get it straight, the reason
> people in Richmond don't understand the show is because most
> African-Americans here are afraid of Star, this coming from
> an African-American. I know firsthand, becuase I hear people
> say that he's said Mother F----- live on-air, which I know
> is a BOLD-FACED LIE. They hear what they want to hear, and
> it sickens me. Why do they want to silence Star & Buc Wild:
> for personal reasons, especially from the NAACP. From
> African-Americans that I have come in contact with, they say
> he doesn't sound black. How do you sound black? That's
> another topic for another message board.
>
>
> Point blank: Richmond, socially and from a diverse point of
> view, is one of the worst cities to live in. And the
> reaction to the Star & Buc Wild Morning Show is nothing but
> living proof.

I have to disagree about diversity. Richmond is actually one of the better places I've lived and I lived there for 30 years. I worked as a Family and Children's Caseworker and I can tell you the City had more programs to help the poor out of anywhere I've seen outside of NYC. I know Bobby Ukrop got Howard Stern off the air and Marilyn Manson couldn't play there. No place is perfect. Richmond had a local program of General Relief that was quite unusual.Where I live , there is only one African-American in city management. How many cities actually allow uniformed police to wear beards? Richmond and Detroit is all I know. And to make it more exciting , in 1970, Richmond may have been the largest city in the country not to have any laws against public cross dressing. Even NYC had them . That's what caused the Stonewall Riot on 1969. Nobody ever ran for Sheriff promoting themselves as a (BLEEP) official like in Houston Texas. YOu have to leave Richmond to appreciate it. If you see one African-American police officer a day in Florida, that is a lot.
>
 
> > Star doesn't refer to himself as an African-American, he's
> a
> > man of color. An American Negro. Get it straight, the
> reason
> > people in Richmond don't understand the show is because
> most
> > African-Americans here are afraid of Star, this coming
> from
> > an African-American. I know firsthand, becuase I hear
> people
> > say that he's said Mother F----- live on-air, which I know
>
> > is a BOLD-FACED LIE. They hear what they want to hear, and
>
> > it sickens me. Why do they want to silence Star & Buc
> Wild:
> > for personal reasons, especially from the NAACP. From
> > African-Americans that I have come in contact with, they
> say
> > he doesn't sound black. How do you sound black? That's
> > another topic for another message board.
> >
> >
> > Point blank: Richmond, socially and from a diverse point
> of
> > view, is one of the worst cities to live in. And the
> > reaction to the Star & Buc Wild Morning Show is nothing
> but
> > living proof.
>
> I have to disagree about diversity. Richmond is actually
> one of the better places I've lived and I lived there for 30
> years. I worked as a Family and Children's Caseworker and I
> can tell you the City had more programs to help the poor out
> of anywhere I've seen outside of NYC. I know Bobby Ukrop got
> Howard Stern off the air and Marilyn Manson couldn't play
> there. No place is perfect. Richmond had a local program of
> General Relief that was quite unusual.Where I live , there
> is only one African-American in city management. How many
> cities actually allow uniformed police to wear beards?
> Richmond and Detroit is all I know. And to make it more
> exciting , in 1970, Richmond may have been the largest city
> in the country not to have any laws against public cross
> dressing. Even NYC had them . That's what caused the
> Stonewall Riot on 1969. Nobody ever ran for Sheriff
> promoting themselves as a (BLEEP) official like in Houston
> Texas. YOu have to leave Richmond to appreciate it. If you
> see one African-American police officer a day in Florida,
> that is a lot.
> >
>
Ha I Guess The Richmond You Live In Is Completly Different From The Richmond Area I Live In A PURE HELLHOLE, I Mean The People Here Are For The Most Part The Most Sexist Racist Bigoted Place EVER,And This Whole Crap About The NAACP, Please This Is Just A repeat Of The Howard Stern Debacle From The Mid 90's When The Ukrop Brothers Ran Him Out Of Town On a Rail,Because At All Boills Down To Simple Idea, If You Don't Like Something TURN THE Channel Stupid
 
> > Star doesn't refer to himself as an African-American, he's
> a
> > man of color. An American Negro. Get it straight, the
> reason
> > people in Richmond don't understand the show is because
> most
> > African-Americans here are afraid of Star, this coming
> from
> > an African-American. I know firsthand, becuase I hear
> people
> > say that he's said Mother F----- live on-air, which I know
>
> > is a BOLD-FACED LIE. They hear what they want to hear, and
>
> > it sickens me. Why do they want to silence Star & Buc
> Wild:
> > for personal reasons, especially from the NAACP. From
> > African-Americans that I have come in contact with, they
> say
> > he doesn't sound black. How do you sound black? That's
> > another topic for another message board.
> >
> >
> > Point blank: Richmond, socially and from a diverse point
> of
> > view, is one of the worst cities to live in. And the
> > reaction to the Star & Buc Wild Morning Show is nothing
> but
> > living proof.
> >
>

Believe it or not the "N" word is not the real reason that many
popular radio DJ's have been fired. Many of the them Bubba The
Love Sponge, Howard Stern, The Greaseman, ETC. have had multiple
FCC fines against them. After the infamous Janet Jackson performace
the FCC has gone into overdrive and public reaction to these so
called "shock jocks" is not being tolerated any more. I listen to
Star & Bucwild in the morning and the "N" word does not offend me.
I can't speak for every black person but their is a double standard
when it comes to this word. Many people have no problem listening to
that word when it comes from 50 Cent, Snoop Dogg, Jay-Z, Ludacris or
Dave Chappelle. Now when it comes to radio air personalities using
that word it's a MAJOR problem (according to some) Many stations have
their own policies against the use of that word. They often edit
that word from their songs. However the "N" word is not against the
FCC rules. So should the NAACP protest against Star & Buc. Sure why not ??
This is what they do best. March and protest and march and protest. The
NAACP in my opinion has not been relevant since the 1960's. Making the
statement that Star does not "sound black" is pure ignorance. Every black
man behind the Mic does not have to be Tom Joyner or Doug Banks. Safe
and clean and playing stupid games every morning. Star & Buc is not for
everyone I'll agree with that. They do have the right to do their own show.
I have respect for any station that decides to pick up this show. It's
not your typical Hip-Hop morning show. No shout-outs or callers rapping
over the phone. The content and topics talked about are real and important.


<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by VARTV on 08/21/05 10:27 AM.</FONT></P>
 
Avalone,

Your post, and Oldiesgal before you, confirms how people can have different experiences and perceptions of Richmond. And theres nothing wrong with that. I appreciate that RInfo allows us to share our thoughts and opinions on radio related subjects.

Whats your take on the post subject about the NAACP protest?<P ID="signature">______________
Steve Shannon WELK,WINA
Steve Hendrix WRVQ,WRNL,WLEE
Starr Stevens WROV,WXIL,WKEE
The Real Steve Kelly WGH,WZCL,WLTY
Kelly Wayne WTVR,WKEZ
www.wrovhistory.com
</P>
 
> Avalone,
>
> Your post, and Oldiesgal before you, confirms how people can
> have different experiences and perceptions of Richmond. And
> theres nothing wrong with that. I appreciate that RInfo
> allows us to share our thoughts and opinions on radio
> related subjects.
>
> Whats your take on the post subject about the NAACP protest?
>
Steve I Think The NAACP Are JustFull Of Smoke And Mirrors,Like I Said BEfore If They Don't Like It Then Don't Listen To Them.
 
Steve, I Think The NAACP Are Just Full Of Smoke And
Mirrors, Like I Said BEfore If They Don't Like It Then Don't
Listen To Them.

Maybe I'm wrong here, but isn't the NAACP anything BUT smoke and mirrors? (A very old radio saying referring to a magic trick using deception and images to fool people into thinking what they see is real?) <P ID="signature">______________
Steve Shannon WELK,WINA
Steve Hendrix WRVQ,WRNL,WLEE
Starr Stevens WROV,WXIL,WKEE
The Real Steve Kelly WGH,WZCL,WLTY
Kelly Wayne WTVR,WKEZ
www.wrovhistory.com
</P>
 
> > Frank,
> > Some excellent points and questions you bring up! I would
> > like to see more opinion from other RInfo members on your
> > thoughts. I too would like to see the subject about
> > "sounding" black, white or whatever, commented on from a
> > programming perspective. No doubt a station wants their
> > jocks to fit their format, but are they researching the
> > market first to determine what listeners expect, or are
> they
> > pushing and imposing their ideas of a jocks sound to try
> to
> > influence or perpetuate change?
> >
> > Real food for thought here radio people...and Frank
> started
> > it all. Great post!
> >
> > Steve

There have also been many White announcers who were assumed to be Black before they were better known , most notably Wolfman Jack. If you want to look at racial stereoptyping, how about John Boy and Billy or Ben Stein? When I left Richmond, I believe every major city Department head was African-American. Find that in Florida. It ain't there. You could put all of Tampa Bay's art museums inside the Virginia Museum.Main Stret preppies grated on me too, but they sure beat guys riding around at night with guns. In the last four years, Florida police have killed at least 4 Black teen-agers. Ever hear of Tyron Lewis? The Richmond City government is a paragon of liberality compared to anything I found here. Sure, the Gay Pride celebratation is bigger here, but so is the population.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by VARTV on 08/21/05 10:27 AM.</FONT></P>
 
There is no such thing as bad pubicity. I bet more people are listening to their show than ever before....<P ID="signature">______________
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> There is no such thing as bad pubicity. I bet more people
> are listening to their show than ever before....
>

Amen to that Bopst. Nothing like a headline on NBC12 and the Richmond Times Dispatch to really get things going. I am now waiting for the Ukrop family to step in, just as they did with Stern. CC needs to watch out, because they were NOT here when the whole stern debacle went down. Actually, given that the Ukrop brothers are republicans......they might stay out of this one, given that the NAACP is already in this.
 
> > There is no such thing as bad pubicity. I bet more people
> > are listening to their show than ever before....
> >
>
> Amen to that Bopst. Nothing like a headline on NBC12 and the
> Richmond Times Dispatch to really get things going. I am now
> waiting for the Ukrop family to step in, just as they did
> with Stern. CC needs to watch out, because they were NOT
> here when the whole stern debacle went down. Actually, given
> that the Ukrop brothers are republicans......they might stay
> out of this one, given that the NAACP is already in this.
>

Haha, I am laughing at all of this. Star & Buc Wild will be here for years to come. As far as I'm concerned, Ukrop's can go to you-know-where and just worry about not running out of UVC cards. It's this simple Richmonders: turn them off!! Go listen to Bill Bevins, Tom Joyner, Russ Parr, Q Morning Snooze, or any other Richmond morning show. Thanks to you, Star & Buc will be #1 in the Fall book.

A headline saying "Is Star too wild for Richmond?" sums it up: this town sucks. You may shoot back at me saying that "well why don't you just leave Richmond?", it's not that easy to move than it is to turn the dial.
 
> I am now
> waiting for the Ukrop family to step in, just as they did
> with Stern. CC needs to watch out, because they were NOT
> here when the whole stern debacle went down. Actually, given
> that the Ukrop brothers are republicans......they might stay
> out of this one, given that the NAACP is already in this.

Don't hold your breath on this one. The Ukrops could care less about Star and Buc Wild as long as they're just offending black people. If Star and Buc Wild started mouthing off about prominent caucasian Richmonders, then the Ukrops would jump in with both feet. Racist mutts.<P ID="signature">______________
"Time, and quaaludes, and red wine..."
---David Bowie</P>
 
> > > There is no such thing as bad pubicity. I bet more
> people
> > > are listening to their show than ever before....
> > >
> >
> > Amen to that Bopst. Nothing like a headline on NBC12 and
> the
> > Richmond Times Dispatch to really get things going. I am
> now
> > waiting for the Ukrop family to step in, just as they did
> > with Stern. CC needs to watch out, because they were NOT
> > here when the whole stern debacle went down. Actually,
> given
> > that the Ukrop brothers are republicans......they might
> stay
> > out of this one, given that the NAACP is already in this.
> >
>
> Haha, I am laughing at all of this. Star & Buc Wild will be
> here for years to come. As far as I'm concerned, Ukrop's can
> go to you-know-where and just worry about not running out of
> UVC cards. It's this simple Richmonders: turn them off!! Go
> listen to Bill Bevins, Tom Joyner, Russ Parr, Q Morning
> Snooze, or any other Richmond morning show. Thanks to you,
> Star & Buc will be #1 in the Fall book.
>
> A headline saying "Is Star too wild for Richmond?" sums it
> up: this town sucks. You may shoot back at me saying that
> "well why don't you just leave Richmond?", it's not that
> easy to move than it is to turn the dial.

I did social work in Richmond for 30 years. If you think Richmond is conservative, just come on down to real Dixieland. You ain't seen conservative.Richmond had a Housing Code with teeth to shut down slumlords before even cities like Syracuse and way before Houston. In Richmond, the conservatives trash you on the pages of the T-D, not blow up your business. I'd take Bobby Ukrop to a lot of the unmentionables in Alabama. RIchmond is city of country club Main St. conservatives, not dudes night riding. I,m sorry, but I have to disagree. I went to work for the City in 1970 and presented as a full-blown hippie, something a lot of other cities with 50's dress codes would not have permitted. We could even have Jim Morrison posters in the office.
>
 
so true it hurts...<P ID="signature">______________
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Monday-Friday (1-4 PM EST-USA)
WCLM 1450 AM
Richmond, Virginia
http://www.wclmradio.com
Request Line: (804) 231-7685

</P>
 
and again, so true it hurts....<P ID="signature">______________
<a target="_blank" href=http://www.wclmradio.com/pages/bopst.html>The Bopst Show</a>
Monday-Friday (1-4 PM EST-USA)
WCLM 1450 AM
Richmond, Virginia
http://www.wclmradio.com
Request Line: (804) 231-7685

</P>
 
> Haha, I am laughing at all of this. Star & Buc Wild will be
> here for years to come. As far as I'm concerned, Ukrop's can
> go to you-know-where and just worry about not running out of
> UVC cards. It's this simple Richmonders: turn them off!! Go
> listen to Bill Bevins, Tom Joyner, Russ Parr, Q Morning
> Snooze, or any other Richmond morning show. Thanks to you,
> Star & Buc will be #1 in the Fall book.
>
> A headline saying "Is Star too wild for Richmond?" sums it
> up: this town sucks. You may shoot back at me saying that
> "well why don't you just leave Richmond?", it's not that
> easy to move than it is to turn the dial.
>
Frank C, I'm laughing with you. The obvious free publicity the press is giving their show will help draw attention and listeners to it. I agree with you thats a given. Now, I don't think my hometown sucks, but I have no problem with your opinion of it.

Hell, not everybody loves Richmond. No problem with me on that.

I'm laughing with you, that your original thought provoking post, could bring out some of the most IDIOTIC fringe element posts following it that I've ever read on RInfo. Posts about everything BUT examining Star & Buc Wild from a radio programming viewpoint/perspective. What could have been a real serious dialog on current radio formats etc has turned into a string of situation ethics
slamming everything and offering no solutions.

But I applaud RInfo for giving this string a chance.

And I still think your original post deserves more serious dialog.<P ID="signature">______________
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Kelly Wayne WTVR,WKEZ
www.wrovhistory.com
</P>
 
And so, this posting string ends on that note.

Too bad.

This string could have been a better meeting of solutions, but it wasn't.<P ID="signature">______________
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Steve Hendrix WRVQ,WRNL,WLEE
Starr Stevens WROV,WXIL,WKEE
The Real Steve Kelly WGH,WZCL,WLTY
Kelly Wayne WTVR,WKEZ
www.wrovhistory.com
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