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Naif tech questions...

What's the purpose of the tiny Z transformers over each fader inside the Harris Stereo 80 broadcast console? They are 600/150... Are those used to match with old 600 ohm impedance output devices? What will happend if I null them (bypass)?... I'm asking this because mixing different Z's on the same fader cause terrible frequency roll-offs...

Can some one point me to the direction of a audio transformer that can convert 48 ohm into 8 ohm so that can match with today common speakers?
Thanks...

Pedro
 
You don't want to bypass these transformers.

Standard mixer design for consoles of that era was to use transformer inputs set for 600 ohms to match the typical output impedance of equipment such as tape recorders, cart machines as well as incoming lines from the telephone company.

Most of this equipment, and especially the telco lines, were balanced outputs and were happiest into the 600 ohm load.

If you look at an over-all schematic these 600 ohm inputs would then go to step attenuators, which would then feed a common program buss. The impedance of this buss would vary depending upon the number of inputs that were turned on at any one time. So this buss was designed to be a low impedance, hence switching faders in or out would not change the impedance of the buss that much. Otherwise, the signal levels would change as sources would be switched in and out. So the faders were designed to match 150 ohms. Hence 600 ohm to 150 ohm transformers.

Soooooo....how do you match high impedance devices such as CD players? You use a device like this (twin-match):

http://www.broadcasttools.com/view_product.php?pid=109#

which are made by a variety of manufacturers, but can easily built using TLO-72's & a bi-polar power supply.

The circuit takes the unbalanced -10 db output from the consumer style device, and creates a +4 balanced output that the board wants to see. Also clearing up level and frequency response problems.

48 ohm to 8 ohm transformers are cheap, they are commonly used in PA installations. Look for someone in your area who does this kind of work, the PA folks call them "70 volt Line" transformers (although that's a higher impedance, but many have both primary and secondary taps). Here's a sheet from a Canadian manufacturer:

http://www.hammondmfg.com/117.htm
 
Thanks for your clear answer. I won't remove the transformers for sure :D
I was already aware of the twin-match like devices and the how to make one (already explained on this forum)
About the transformers... The major drawback is the frequency reesponse. For nearfield monitoring is quite low... I've been running the Harris Stereo 80 with 8 ohm pc speakers for monition with no trouble. I'm tempted to use 4 ohm car radio speakers for cheap better audio... Console monitor Z output are those 48 ohm. Should I be careful with anything?
 
Usually those boards had pretty reasonable monitor amplifiers--probably around ten watts (real watts: not the "150 watts for ten seconds at 40% distortion" you'll see advertised for car sound equipment). So there shouldn't be a problem.

Since you aren't sending the audio anywhere else, you could also feed a conventional hi fi amplifier off the program line. The typical 10K tape inputs would simply bridge across the output, this would also unbalance the outputs but since they are isolated by transformers as well shouldn't bug anything. Then use whatever you can find for speakers.

Then, if you needed to mute the speakers, there are a couple of options, but a schematic would be real handy:

A. Sometimes the muting relays had extra contacts available for just this purpose, they could trip external relays;
B. You could disconnect the internal speaker muting circuit and substitute your speaker feeds;
c. If there is a 110 volt circuit for a warning light, use that to trip another relay. If you can find one, there are 110 volt AC relays in the same configuration as the 24 volt KH series four pole relays used in cart machines.
 
About the relays, I already tested one just for 220v On Air Light purposes, triggered by the an 12 ac transformer triggered by the console relay.
From top to bottom: Lamp\220v relay\12 dc transformer\console relay\mic key...

Thanks again Tom
 
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