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Nash 947

Bob Eubanks said:
That's a bogus argument, however. "Mass" appeal is not "exclusive" appeal. Many masses of various demographics can co-exist. No, Taylor Swift, if one insists on that example, doesn't fit all of them. But that doesn't mean that they don't all have a degree of "mass" appeal.

And how would it work to have "diverse cultural appeal" for all of the limited frequencies? Let's set aside the issue of ownership rights and First Amendment protections for simplicity. How would it work? X hours per day you must do for men, X for women, X for this, X for that...and what do you have as a result? A mishmash that ultimately serves no one.

Certainly limited frequencies are true, but irrelevant. There have always been limited frequencies, and always been audiences without "their" desired tastes reflected. If anything, it's less relevant or important today, in an era of iTunes, XM, Pandora et al. There is no inherent right to a specific format that appeals to you or me (setting aside that groups of people who share similar demographic and other criteria might have entirely divergent desires when it comes to content), and that's not a corporate conspiracy. It's just life. If anything, the heightened competition and increased financial pressures make it all the more likely that if there were "gold in them thar hills" when it came to untapped formats, that someone would be rushing to stake their claim. Anything to gain a competitive edge. So when it doesn't happen, that might be saying more about the actual business potential than any ulterior motive.
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The question I put to him was tongue and cheek since I took his post as obviously trolling. I should not have replied to his post since I did not want to derail the thread and end up with replies like yours which I agree with. My point after that first sentence is about me simply questioning why I am getting trolled upon by simply having an opinion that differs from management.
 
dcowboy7 said:
You said:

"I doubt that Carrie Underwood or John Legend (for example) would of made the Z100 chart back then."

So i posted that carrie did have a top 10 pop hit back then & Z100 did play it.
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Okay. You get a gold star for "know your Carrie Underwood hits" on Z100. :)
 
TheBigA said:
If you look at the names of the artists who do these concerts, they aren't getting airplay. Most of them are new artists, looking for exposure. The artists do these concerts because they want to reach the station's audience, and this is in lieu of airplay. The labels must sign waivers saying that they will not get airplay in exchange for doing these concerts. It's all very legal. No major corporation wants to risk its radio license for a free concert. That simply makes no financial sense.

BTW, payola laws only apply to broadcasting, not satellite. So it's possible that payola exists at Sirius.
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I think some of the older artists have gotten airplay. They just have a new album out. Then December hits and its time to do the Freebie. But I Know the PD I talked to said the artists aren't happy about it. They could make alot of money with a concert.
 
mikerock said:
The question I put to him was tongue and cheek since I took his post as obviously trolling. I should not have replied to his post since I did not want to derail the thread and end up with replies like yours which I agree with. My point after that first sentence is about me simply questioning why I am getting trolled upon by simply having an opinion that differs from management.
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Fair enough, though TheBigA is one of the last people I would consider to be trolling, so that could be why it wasn't clear to be toungue-in-cheek, so to speak.
 
I merely pointed out why targeting a station to one narrow group of people is generally not a good idea (at least in commercial radio). How is that trolling?
 
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TGunn said:
Well what are the laws for accepting million dollar gifts (artist concerts) in exchange for airplay. That should be a conflict of interest.
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The major broadcast companies all have "letters" that they sign with record labels where airplay is not a condition of having an artist perform for a special event.

Were, however, an artist to perform in exchange for airplay, the FCC rules would consider the airplay incidents to be commercials, and then the sponsor identification rules apply. That means the station must identify th song as presented by its label or management company. Payola laws do not apply when management accepts compensation for airplay; it's just another sale of commercial time.
 
WPLJ has an acceptable share & good cume. If WPLJ falters , cumulus might move NASH to 95.5 or
air another format on 95.5.
 
TGunn said:
Well what are the laws for accepting million dollar gifts (artist concerts) in exchange for airplay. That should be a conflict of interest.
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How do you know airplay was a condition? Some of these free shows are benefits, and the artist gets to present a check to a charity.
 
semoochie said:
I believe that 'PLJ is still one of the top billing stations in America. They're not going to risk that for what in New York is only a niche!
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WPLJ is down a third from 2013 to 2014 in billing, and is now 18th in the market. That's not a good picture.
 
DavidEduardo said:
WPLJ is down a third from 2013 to 2014 in billing, and is now 18th in the market. That's not a good picture.
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Call it the Scott Shannon effect. And it's most likely why they made a change at the top last year. Not that it was her fault.

Still, I agree that flipping the station to country wouldn't improve revenues beyond where they are now.
 
Too many AC's in Nash's coverage area

The songs in question are not even remotely country----WHN played country rock songs or covers of country songs!!!!
 
The non country music is only during local programming, seems like they are also adding some Country recurrents and older cuts back to the 90s.

From Wikipedia regarding WHN during their Country days:
"As a country music station, they played artists like Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, Waylon Jennings, Tanya Tucker, Lynn Anderson, Kenny Rogers, Mel Tillis, Charley Pride, Mickey Gilley, Ronnie Milsap, and many more. Also, they mixed in non-country artists that had country-friendly songs such as The Eagles, Elvis Presley, Anne Murray, Olivia Newton-John, Linda Ronstadt, and others."

I was a listener during this period and also remember hearing Lynyrd Skynyrd, The Marshall Tucker Band, Neil Diamond and a very strange misfit "music box dancer" an instrumental by Frank Mills. The "Urban Cowboy" sound track was released in 1980 and featured a few non country artists such as Joe Walsh, Bob Seger, Boz Scaggs, and Dan Fogelberg and were added to the WHN rotation. Back then "crossover" music was more common on most radio stations. It certainly isn't the trend now and I don't think NASHs experiment is going to work.
 
njtom said:
The non country music is only during local programming, seems like they are also adding some Country recurrents and older cuts back to the 90s.
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I think that's a great idea. Country was last heard on NY radio the mid-90s, and I'm sure a lot of New Yorkers have fond memories from that time. I think a good mix, similar to what Cumulus is doing with Nash Icon, would get them slightly better numbers than currents or adding non-country songs.
 
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