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Nashville Musical Chairs

M

My_Humps

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It was similar to the musical chairs in Chicago, and it really went up the dial.

Nashville:
WMAK 96.3 From Oldies To Adult Hits (96-3 Jack FM).
WRQQ 97.1 From Hot AC (Star 97) To Oldies
WQZQ 102.5 From CHR-Pop (The Party) To Hot AC (Venus FM).
WBUZ 102.9 From Alternative To Active Rock (Still The Buzz).

Chicago:
Viva 103.1/93.5 From Tropical To Hurban (La Kalle).
WJMK 104.3 From Oldies To Adult Hits (104-3 Jack FM).
WZZN 94.7 From Active Rock (The Zone) To Oldies
WCKG 105.9 From Talk To Talk/Rock

Looks like Cromwell ditched 2 of their stations formats (The Buzz to active rock, The Party to hot AC as Venus FM). Will Lightning 100 shift to alternative soon?
 
Musical Chairs

Not sure many real everyday listeners care much about Lightning 100. It's a fave on music row and with media types but that's about it.

>
> Looks like Cromwell ditched 2 of their stations formats (The
> Buzz to active rock, The Party to hot AC as Venus FM). Will
> Lightning 100 shift to alternative soon?
>
 
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> Not sure many real everyday listeners care much about
> Lightning 100. It's a fave on music row and with media
> types but that's about it.


Really?
And you make that call how, exactly?<P ID="signature">______________
but wait...there's more!</P>
 
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> Not sure many real everyday listeners care much about
> Lightning 100. It's a fave on music row and with media
> types but that's about it.
>
> >
> > Looks like Cromwell ditched 2 of their stations formats
> (The
> > Buzz to active rock, The Party to hot AC as Venus FM).
> Will
> > Lightning 100 shift to alternative soon?
> >
>

Sorry to bring this up again, but about 50,000 of the
most affluent, best educated readers of the weekly
Nashville Scene have voted this station #1 for the
past decade. I agree it's a favorite on the row,
but there is more individual loyalty to that station than any
other in Nashville, just a small percentage of
the overall population "gets it." Lightning fans
rally around this station as it it was their
own. It's not everybody's cup of tea. (Like Jack, hehehe)

They just don't get the diaries I guess. Quirky and
unconventional for sure, just like the station.
The signal has some affect on the ratings. In this case,
it's quality over quantity, but you are right as far as ratings
and ad revenue. Lester Turner doesn't need this
thing to make tons of money or conform.

Looking at the overall Nashville demo, it gets the
people that "count the most" according to media buyers
who look at the ratings and don't buy it. Makes
total sense, doesn't it. Upscale restaurant or clothing
stores buy on Country because of the numbers and miss
the very people driving by daily who never see the sign.
 
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Lester Turner doesn't need this
> thing to make tons of money or conform.
>
>

And hopefully Mr Turner will never need it to be a cash cow.

Nock
 
Musical Chairs

You should know better- you really think the Nashville Scene's reader poll is at all scientific? Hoards vote a ton of times over & over for their favorite in polls conducted exactly the same for readers' favorite recipes.

Lightning 100 has always been a critics favorite but real radio success us almost always judged by ratings and revenue performance. They've had neither
and you're quite right that they don't need to be among the big dogs to survive.
But I think you'd also agree the quality of stations like this gets way overblown by it's mostly-media partisans. It's a very clique-ish, campy type of elite who uses Lightning 100.

>
> Sorry to bring this up again, but about 50,000 of the
> most affluent, best educated readers of the weekly
> Nashville Scene have voted this station #1 for the
> past decade. I agree it's a favorite on the row,
> but there is more individual loyalty to that station than
> any other in Nashville, just a small percentage of
> the overall population "gets it." Lightning fans
> rally around this station as it it was their
> own. It's not everybody's cup of tea. (Like Jack, hehehe)
>
> They just don't get the diaries I guess. Quirky and
> unconventional for sure, just like the station.
> The signal has some affect on the ratings. In this case,
> it's quality over quantity, but you are right as far as
> ratings and ad revenue. Lester Turner doesn't need this
> thing to make tons of money or conform.
>
> Looking at the overall Nashville demo, it gets the
> people that "count the most" according to media buyers
> who look at the ratings and don't buy it. Makes
> total sense, doesn't it. Upscale restaurant or clothing
> stores buy on Country because of the numbers and miss
> the very people driving by daily who never see the sign.
>
 
100

Most radio stations' success is based on how many listeners they have. Their listenership is very loyal but very, very small compared to the top 15 or so in the Nashville market. They're kind of like that foreign movie that shows in a few select small movie theatres- those who attend love it and it gets great write-ups but about a handful of people in the seats at any given showing is considered a win.

> Really? And you make that call how, exactly?
>
 
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> Sorry to bring this up again, but about 50,000 of the
> most affluent, best educated readers of the weekly
> Nashville Scene have voted this station #1 for the
> past decade. I agree it's a favorite on the row,
> but there is more individual loyalty to that station than
> any other in Nashville, just a small percentage of
> the overall population "gets it."
>
> They just don't get the diaries I guess. Quirky and
> unconventional for sure, just like the station.

> Looking at the overall Nashville demo, it gets the
> people that "count the most" according to media buyers
> who look at the ratings and don't buy it.

Okay, this is going to be a rant, but I just can't let these statements slide.

I've moved on, but I spent several years as a media buyer, and I can tell you there is no bigger joke than a Best of [City] "poll." Every year, when ballots are published, employers send their employees on company time to every rack they can find to grab stacks of papers. They are then asked to complete and send in ballots voting for their company, thereby stuffing the ballot boxes. Many businesses who routinely are found in the top categories will post signs on their windows and doors urging people to vote for their business. And all so they can win a top ranking and PAY for the privilege of using the poll ranking in their advertising. Yes, I said PAY. You see, the whole thing is an advertising gimmick, right from the moment the top vote-getters earn the "right" to advertise in the Best of [City] issue. And what isn't about advertising is about circulation, for those thousands of issues that get picked up when ballots are printed get counted to offset those other weeks when there's still plenty in the bins the day before the new issue comes out.

Plot the local "Best of" winners on a map. Where are the majority of businesses located? In the business districts surrounding our colleges. This tells you who's actually reading the paper, either by individual voting or by "mass employee voting." These aren't the most educated people in the community, these are the people just in the process of earning their education. And college students aren't the most affluent people I've ever run into. But the age group college students fall into is the age group that is most likely to listen to 100. They, and the row, which is conveniently located close to most of the same businesses. These are the people in Nashville "who count the most" ONLY to these particular businesses. People who are truly affluent and are truly among the educated really could care less.

Of course, if the people listening to 100 are truly educated, they really could figure out something as simple as an Arb diary. Nothing hard about it. But that's not who's listening. These are the same people who read the Scene. So if I have a client nightclub with bands and beer, I'll buy space in the Scene to draw the college crowd. Otherwise, there are many more targeted places to advertise to the affluent and the educated.

And there is definitely not more individual loyalty to 100 than there is to Gerry House, or to WTN, or 92Q, or the Zone. Listeners to all those shows and stations are much more fiercely loyal. Alternative listeners are much more likely than House, WTN, 92Q, or Zone listeners to plug up to an iPod and turn their alternative stations off. I think you'll find more people in the greater Nashville area do indeed "get it." That's why 100's ratings are low, and that's why so many Scenes are picked up and used merely for cover by those who get caught without their umbrellas during a rainstorm.
 
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Jetfli:

Good comeback, I think you have some seriously valid points.
I think you have said it best. I agree with your analysis
of the situation and stand corrected.
 
Lightning

I second yours (and his) perspectives on Lightning 100.
>
> Good comeback, I think you have some seriously valid points.
>
> I think you have said it best. I agree with your analysis
> of the situation and stand corrected.
>
 
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