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National EAS a disaster in it self here in Rhode Island.

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Dighton Rockhead

Now that the National EAS test has just occured...I'm just dying to find out WHO ELSE missed the test besides 1320-WARL?... ;D

Now...we are certain of at least one station NOT to listen to in time of dire crisis. ;)
 
A bunch of noise.Bleeding radio station from Washington I guess leaking through.Can bearly hear announcement on Lite.
Wjar and Cox all noise. A complete failure.
 
Once we get over our momentary giggle and chuckle over this...the cold reality sets in that this nation is so far from being truly prepared for a REAL disaster that it's just frightening
 
It's exactly what I had anticipated, and neatly illustrates the level of engineering we rely on,
whether it's the state of the art, or the art of the the state. :-X
 
I was watching MSNBC. The news anchor announced it was coming(in 60 seconds) & it only was a test. Nothing aired. Just regular programming...
 
What I noticed....I think it was in sync but the audio was horrible.Why is the message coming from an AM station?So much AM skip drowned the announcer.
Any reports on any local stations not airing it because of whatever reason...
 
AFTER the test finished, 103.7 WVEI-FM continued with static until roughly 2:10pm when normal programming resumed. 95.5 WBRU's equipment apparently didn't get the end of test data and relayed 790 WPRV until about 2:20pm! In my opinion, this test was an "EPIC FAIL".

What should be done is improvements to the EAS system and I believe that in addition to monthly and weekly local tests, a NATIONAL test like the one issued today should be done at least quarterly in order to identify problems (which there are MANY currently).

Does anyone know if the FCC required each station to do feedback on exactly what their local station ended up airing during the test? If they were smart, they would have had all engineers send in MANDATORY feedback to identify where problems exist.
 
it was shortened to a minute but I think stations where wtf, so they stuck with it a few minutes to see if it got cleaned up.I feel another one will be coming soon
 
Does everybody here not realize there's no point in a national EAS system? EAS in its national form is outdated, ineffective, and unnecessary. If it didn't need to be used during 9/11, when exactly would you need to use the national system? If it works on a state and local level for storm emergencies and Amber alerts, that's perfect.

I think the fact that this is the first ever national test of CONELRAD/EBS/EAS since 1951 is pretty telling as to its value: not much.

Obviously there are some state and local issues as well, but I think that needs to be the focus of the system.
 
jlehmann said:
Here's what it sounded like on 790, and since I believe most stations relay 790
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All stations relay 105.1, which is the LP1 for the state.

NOAA or 790 are the LP2s.

In RI, the national message was overlayed by itself a few times resulting in a big mess. It was so bad that when the EOM was sent out, the boxes couldn't decode it and stayed on. Then when the test ended, some talk show, I don't even know which one, was coming over. Eventually Cumulus engineering on Wampanoag Trail fired off an EOM code, so all our boxes would transmit an EOM and get that garbage off the air.

All in all, it was a big failure.
 
reelyreal said:
Does everybody here not realize there's no point in a national EAS system? EAS in its national form is outdated, ineffective, and unnecessary. If it didn't need to be used during 9/11, when exactly would you need to use the national system? If it works on a state and local level for storm emergencies and Amber alerts, that's perfect.

I think the fact that this is the first ever national test of CONELRAD/EBS/EAS since 1951 is pretty telling as to its value: not much.

Obviously there are some state and local issues as well, but I think that needs to be the focus of the system.
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It did need to be used during 9/11; but there was no National EAS in existence. This has been brought about and a creation of the Dept of Homeland Security post 9/11...that is the point of the first test, going across all broadcast spectrums...
 
reelyreal said:
Does everybody here not realize there's no point in a national EAS system? EAS in its national form is outdated, ineffective, and unnecessary. If it didn't need to be used during 9/11, when exactly would you need to use the national system? If it works on a state and local level for storm emergencies and Amber alerts, that's perfect.
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Damn right. All emergencies are local, and EAS should be run by states not the federal government.

The only scenario in which a national EAS would be useful would be a coup. Like much of the Department of Homeland Security, it is as great a danger itself as anything it might protect us against.
 
wknd92 said:
reelyreal said:
Does everybody here not realize there's no point in a national EAS system? EAS in its national form is outdated, ineffective, and unnecessary. If it didn't need to be used during 9/11, when exactly would you need to use the national system? If it works on a state and local level for storm emergencies and Amber alerts, that's perfect.

I think the fact that this is the first ever national test of CONELRAD/EBS/EAS since 1951 is pretty telling as to its value: not much.

Obviously there are some state and local issues as well, but I think that needs to be the focus of the system.
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It did need to be used during 9/11; but there was no National EAS in existence. This has been brought about and a creation of the Dept of Homeland Security post 9/11...that is the point of the first test, going across all broadcast spectrums...
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Uhhh... You might want to read up on the history of the system. The ENTIRE POINT of the emergency alert system and its predecessors was for the president to have a direct link to speak to the country. It was primarily designed as a national system.
 
I've worked in markets where local administrators didn't know how to get the EAS system to function..if September 11 was an indication, no one at any level even thought about triggering the thing..and what would they have relayed if they did that wasn't already on radio or TV?

This also brings up another issue..most of us working in the business are at locations where a news network affliation is already in place..if we had a real problem, we'd simply join ABC, CBS, or whatever network, and go from there..and there are rules in place that would allow stations to pick up feeds if needed..so there's your system, right there..if what we heard yesterday was any indication, the EAS needs plenty of work..or its needs to be scrapped...
 
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