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NBC’s Paris Olympic coverage

PBS Olympics. Dream on. First, the American team isn't a government operation. USOPC is a private non-profit. Second, NBC has a contact, and no administration is going to nationalize a television contract. Third, why should PBS affiliates (there are no owned stations) give up their daytime programs, much of which is excellent children's programming, for a sports event? Fourth, the NBC coverage is really quite good even if you can't stomach it.

OBS produces coverage for the rightsholders, and sends nothing out separately. (And the rightsholders largely do the actual production work under contract to OBS. BBC handles track, etc.)
When I was in college I had a roommate whose brother wanted the United States to have a government-owned service like the BBC, and he didn't mean PBS. His reasoning was that there would be less of the ABC-style of sitcoms popular at the time (the '70s) and more documentaries and other programs not aimed at the 12-year-old mentality, as people have called it for decades. The United States has a long history of companies being privately owned, even if the government has been known to help out (think the railroads in the nineteenth century), so I don't think a government-owned network is a solution. Also, where would PBS get the commentators for the events?

But does anyone else miss the likes of Howard Cosell on boxing and Jim McKay on gymnastics?
 
Personally, I couldn't care less what the holy 25-44 F demographic wants or how much NBC wants to make money appealing to it. The fact is, all those "other" countries with Olympics coverage somehow have their own 25-44 F populations yet absolutely none of their broadcasters have such garbage coverage. It's not the 25-44 F set that's responsible for this. It's that America has become an Idiocracy.
Actually, the core TV demo is 18-49. It is not and never has been 25-44-
 
Actually, the core TV demo is 18-49. It is not and never has been 25-44-
But 25-44 is included in 18-49, and NBC's Olympic coverage is tailored to attract more female viewers than is its coverage of American team sports. And 55+ is an undesirable demo to try to sell most stuff to (especially new brands) no matter the medium, and that's who's doing most of the complaining about this issue. But I'd suspect most of the complainers are still watching, and complaining to their spouses and kids during every commercial break.
 
I’ve been disappointed this year that they’ve hardly played Bugler’s Dream. That was always a big part of the Olympics to me and it seems like they aren’t playing it much at all this time. I hope this isn’t a new norm.

I also liked having the summer Olympics a little later in the year like September/October, like in Sydney in 2000, but it seems NBC has forced the IOC to have them in July/August for the most part because of ratings unless they were to be held in a location that would just be too hot for them then, like a Middle Eastern country. If another network gets them after NBC’s contract ends in 2032, hopefully that would be possible.
 
Well it is the Summer Olympics not fall.
The three Summer Olympic Games held in the southern hemisphere (1956, 2000, 2016) took place during the winter or spring months in the host countries.

New Zealand has been mentioned as a future site for the Winter Olympics, which would then take place in……July.
 
The three Summer Olympic Games held in the southern hemisphere (1956, 2000, 2016) took place during the winter or spring months in the host countries.

New Zealand has been mentioned as a future site for the Winter Olympics, which would then take place in……July.
Does New Zealand get snow?
 
Does New Zealand get snow?
Guess you’ve never heard of the Southern Alps.

When Radio New Zealand gives the weather for the country during their winter months, the forecast will include the elevation of the snow line for certain regions of the South Island. Sometimes it’s only a few hundred meters.

The country is much further south than most outsiders realize, pretty much the same relative latitude as the northernmost U.S. states.
 
With the tripe coverage from NBC, by contrast, it was like being in a room full of motor-mouthed imbeciles with zero attention spans…..
Except when the ever erudite Payton Manning is droning on, comparing his football acumen to everything.

Maybe hire Brock Huard away from ESPN and weaponize idiot former football players
 
That would be a suicide mission for NBC, going against college and NFL football on various networks. NBC is very happy to have only baseball to compete against in July and August.
They didn't have to worry about a Fall Olympics in 2000 in Sydney because they lose the NFL (AFC) rights to CBS 2 years earlier. Nowadays, different story with them having SNF & Big Ten football.
 
I think the only Summer Olympics in my lifetime that was in Sep was 88, & Sydney in 2000, the others have been late July or early Aug start times for the summer Olympics. I have enjoyed the Olympics so far been pretty good.
 
When I was in college I had a roommate whose brother wanted the United States to have a government-owned service like the BBC, and he didn't mean PBS. His reasoning was that there would be less of the ABC-style of sitcoms popular at the time (the '70s) and more documentaries and other programs not aimed at the 12-year-old mentality, as people have called it for decades. The United States has a long history of companies being privately owned, even if the government has been known to help out (think the railroads in the nineteenth century)
I have never envisioned this country having a government-owned service like BBC, but the idea doesn't strike me as unthinkable. The channel knob used to go all the way to 83. That would have been enough space for a single government-operated national network having a transmitter in every market. As long as the remaining 82 channels stayed in the hands of the people (commercially and non-commercially alike), then I can't see us having our own version of the BBC going against the American spirit of free enterprise, provided it avoided religion and politics and focused on the types of content your roommate's brother suggested.

For Olympics coverage specifically, my thinking was just more along the lines of PBS already receiving a lot of government funding, and how in exchange for that, it might seem workable to mandate that PBS act as the main, "high quality" conduit for Olympics coverage, in the public's interest -- seeing as how they are "special" as far as being an irregular world event and a matter of national pride, whereas ordinary sports (football etc.) are ongoing 24/7 and are only matters of local town/city interest/pride. We already use "the public interest" as the logic behind making private broadcasters (who don't receive government subsidies at all) give up hours of airtime every week, all year long, to air all that obnoxious E/I material. Compared to some cheap show filmed with a Digital-8 camera of singing pre-schoolers learning about puppies, at least there are countless millions who actually want to see the Olympics.

Also, where would PBS get the commentators for the events?
Aren't the IOC feeds provided with optional announcer tracks (as opposed to unnarrated, clean event audio)?

First, the American team isn't a government operation. USOPC is a private non-profit.
I don't understand this point. The Olympics wouldn't need to be a government operation to be carried on either a state-run network (like BBC) or a partly state-funded public network (PBS). NASA TV broadcasts Elon's private rocket launches. C-SPAN 3 covers random book authors' signing events when not covering the hill.

Second, NBC has a contact, and no administration is going to nationalize a television contract.
Unfortunately so. But contracts begin and end and changes can happen before the new ones get signed. Perhaps by the time NBC's current deal ends, their coverage will have become so bad that even you, rather than just the rest of us so far, will also favor a switch to coverage by a high quality broadcaster. ;)

Third, why should PBS affiliates (there are no owned stations) give up their daytime programs, much of which is excellent children's programming, for a sports event?
As if NBC doesn't shut down its regularly scheduled programming for that sports event? I inferred how PBS and its affiliates would benefit when I mentioned the radio cume effect as an example. PBS having the Olympics would draw in untold millions who have little to zero existing brand awareness of them, translating to multitudes of new viewers (donors) after the Olympics end. Imagine the Olympics drawing more than 35% of the entire adult U.S. population (source) to PBS for almost three weeks straight, and throughout that whole period, all those people being exposed to the network's customary ~5 minute top-of-the-hour promo breaks showcasing their regular programming. Imagine if each affiliate even used 30-60 seconds of each such TOTH break to politely hold out its cookie jar -- in the form of some celebrity coming on-screen with a QR code, an 800 number, and a web site address, saying "please support this public television station's ongoing efforts to keep bringing you and your community commercial-free, high quality programming each and every day -- including this year's completely commercial-free coverage of the 20## Oylmpic games." The effect of so many people seeing those brief pleas once per hour would go entire astronomical units toward that station's yearly budget requirements. I can't see why an affiliate wouldn't suspend its programming for just a few weeks to take that much pressure off its fund-raising efforts. Especially given, again, as I also brought up earlier, the ATSC factor. They could technically keep their regular stuff going on a subchannel for all the people who just couldn't wait. Every affiliate has a "Create" or an "NHK World" subchannel it could replace the content on for 20 days, preempting any need to make people re-scan their TVs or get cable companies to add new subchannels to their lineups.

Fourth, the NBC coverage is really quite good even if you can't stomach it.
That's like saying McDonalds happy meals fresh from the heat lamps are really quite good even if you can't stomach them. If you can't stomach something, you can't stomach it. This is the crux of the matter. The number of people who can't stomach NBC's coverage has grown beyond just some handful of snobs here and there. People are pirating other countries' broadcasts by the droves using VPNs, or are just not watching anymore, it's so bad. And unlike conventional sports that tend to appeal to particular demographics (and whose coverage style therefore is typically matched to the intellect, or lack thereof, of its demographic -- see for example the difference between wrestling coverage and golf coverage), the Olympics are a special event. They appeal to an incredibly wide spectrum of people at all income, education, and cultural levels. Letting NBC say "well, the biggest sub-demographic for the Olympics are happy meal eaters, so let's force happy meals on the steak eaters too and use contracts to deny them alternatives" is B.S.

And 55+ is an undesirable demo to try to sell most stuff to (especially new brands) no matter the medium, and that's who's doing most of the complaining about this issue. But I'd suspect most of the complainers are still watching, and complaining to their spouses and kids during every commercial break.
Then I'm apparently one of the minority who is well beneath 55, has been complaining since his 20s, and now simply avoids NBC entirely so as not to have to complain any longer.
 
Then I'm apparently one of the minority who is well beneath 55, has been complaining since his 20s, and now simply avoids NBC entirely so as not to have to complain any longer.
It's easier than that... just watch Telemundo.

"Telemundo and Universo will air over 315 hours of live competitions and daily recap specials across the games. Most days, the network will provide at least six hours of daytime coverage, with up to 12 hours of programming on soccer days. Telemundo will also present a two-hour recap show that airs at 12 a.m. ET."
 
PBS Olympics. Dream on. First, the American team isn't a government operation. USOPC is a private non-profit. Second, NBC has a contact, and no administration is going to nationalize a television contract. Third, why should PBS affiliates (there are no owned stations) give up their daytime programs, much of which is excellent children's programming, for a sports event? Fourth, the NBC coverage is really quite good even if you can't stomach it.

OBS produces coverage for the rightsholders, and sends nothing out separately. (And the rightsholders largely do the actual production work under contract to OBS. BBC handles track, etc.)
And there's another one PBS affiliates are better known for investigative journalism via documentaries or in some cases newscasts.
I doubt the average PBS viewer and donor wants to go in that direction with sports.
 
And there's another one PBS affiliates are better known for investigative journalism via documentaries or in some cases newscasts.
I doubt the average PBS viewer and donor wants to go in that direction with sports.
It worked for CPTV when they aired UConn Women’s basketball. Until they could not afford the rights.
 
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