Its not just "filling the time." It's also selling the time. Selling prime time is usually a different rate than late local news and late night. Net prime time is fewer avails to sell than if all of a sudden they're selling a full hour.
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NBC Considers Cutting Back Programming Hours in Prime Time
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Its not just "filling the time." It's also selling the time. Selling prime time is usually a different rate than late local news and late night. Net prime time is fewer avails to sell than if all of a sudden they're selling a full hour.
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I think that if NBC gives the 10 P.M. (ET/PT) hour back to it's local stations, they will reclaim the 11-11:30 P.M. (ET/PT) half-hour and move up their late-night programs so they start a half-hour sooner than they are currently seen. Jimmy Fallon (weeknights) and "Saturday Night Live" (weekends) would start at 11 ET/PT while Seth Meyers (weeknights) would come on at 12 Midnight ET/PT.
Comment from NBC in this story:
. “I don’t think we’re ready to make any decision on 10 o’clock… but we are looking to reallocate resources,” he said. “Right now, we have a lot of great shows at 10 o’clock, we make a lot of money at 10 o’clock” but Shell added that “as linear declines you have to make some trade-offs.”https://variety.com/2022/digital/ne...ribers-q3-nbcuniversal-jeff-shell-1235392792/
. “I don’t think we’re ready to make any decision on 10 o’clock… but we are looking to reallocate resources,” he said. “Right now, we have a lot of great shows at 10 o’clock, we make a lot of money at 10 o’clock” but Shell added that “as linear declines you have to make some trade-offs.”https://variety.com/2022/digital/ne...ribers-q3-nbcuniversal-jeff-shell-1235392792/
Honestly they only have 3 shows next season at the 10pm/9pm hour. Quantum Leap, Chicago P.D., and Law & Order Orginized Crime.
New Amsterdamn is in its final season, Dateline NBC could move up to 8pm/7c for 2 hours and repeats of Saturday Night Live could go away. Sundays is football so technically with sports everything would start later anyway and not a year long schedule. If Quantum Leap gets canceled then they only have 2 10pm/9pm central shows to really worry about or I'd Quantum Leap survives they could air it in the 9pm/8pm Tuesday lineup rotating with LA Brea if it gets picked up for season 3. But as of right now everything is up in the air and we probably won't know till May when they release the fall schedule.
Also the Chicago franchise and Law and Order SVU ends their 3 year renewal in May 2023. But nbc be dumb to cancel their most rated shows.
No they couldn't!
This is part of NBC's move to hype up Peacock. This is the main reason why NBC is cutting primetime to two hours.
NBC may end up announcing whether they cut prime time or not by the end of this year. This would give owned and affiliated stations enough lead time to plan for a new future in late evening TV.
If NBC indeed, as has been speculated, give back the 10-11 P.M. ET/PT hour (9-10 CT/MT) hour back to local stations, likely in exchange for taking back the 11-11:30 P.M. ET/PT (10-10:30 CT/MT) half-hour to move up the start of late night programming by a half-hour, ABC and CBS affiliates will demand their networks to follow suit, since affiliates will make a lot more money with an hour of news at 10 (9 CT/MT) than with a half-hour (or 35 minutes) of news at 11 (10 CT/MT).
As I noted earlier in this thread, this may be the final TV season where any broadcast network regularly programs the 10-11 P.M. ET/PT (9-10 CT/MT) hour on a seven-nights-a-week basis.
If NBC indeed, as has been speculated, give back the 10-11 P.M. ET/PT hour (9-10 CT/MT) hour back to local stations, likely in exchange for taking back the 11-11:30 P.M. ET/PT (10-10:30 CT/MT) half-hour to move up the start of late night programming by a half-hour, ABC and CBS affiliates will demand their networks to follow suit, since affiliates will make a lot more money with an hour of news at 10 (9 CT/MT) than with a half-hour (or 35 minutes) of news at 11 (10 CT/MT).
As I noted earlier in this thread, this may be the final TV season where any broadcast network regularly programs the 10-11 P.M. ET/PT (9-10 CT/MT) hour on a seven-nights-a-week basis.
I also seen an ion television Their marathons said they will include new episodes of NCIS etc. are there other dramas so I could see in addition to streaming services that may be the shows that are in the 10 PM hour get moved to Ion or possibly My Network TV
I seen that freevee's spin off Leverage Redemption is on Ion from 8-10pm central. But only on Monday Nights.
I doubt this will be the final season for that hour all together. Maybe on NBC bit ABC and CBS will follow in years to come. When Today launched on Saturdays in 1992. CBS followed 5 years later in 1997 and ABC 12 years later in 2004. For primetime it's a toss up as CBS has Blue Bloods and NCIS shows and FBI spinoff in those hours while ABC has struggled in the 10pm/9pm hour except the Rookie which has been doing good and Big Sky.
But I'm guessing CBS would drop that hour by 2025 and ABC probably by 2028 if not sooner if their not making any money on any of their newer shows.
I think as long as ABC and CBS stations are airing local news at 11 PM NBC affiliates will reluctant to air The Tonight Show at 11 PM. I think they will be more likely to have a 90 minute newscast at 10 PM followed by The Tonight Show at 11:30 or 11:35
I respectfully disagree. If NBC announces in the next few months that they will give the 10-11 P.M. ET/PT hour back to local stations and move up late night programming to begin at 11 ET/PT as of September, 2023, I think ABC and CBS will quickly announce that they will also do so at the same time.
As I noted above, I think the reason ABC and CBS would quickly follow NBC's lead will be pressure from local stations who would prefer an hour of late news at 10 instead of 30 or 35 minutes at 11 because local stations would make more money, especially with political spots in the 2024 election campaign.
I doubt NBC, ABC, or CBS stations will ever get the chance to do a 90-minute late night news block from 10 to 11:30 Eastern/Pacific. If the "big three" give back the 10-11 P.M. hour, they'll take back the 11-11:30 half-hour to start their late night shows earlier. Plus, having Jimmy Fallon, Jimmy Kimmel, and Stephen Colbert (plus "Saturday Night Live" on weekends) start a half-hour earlier could mean more revenue from commercial spots since more people would be awake during the half-hour between 11 and 11:30 than the half-hour between 11:30 and Midnight.
Another option would be for ABC and CBS airing local news from a half hour to an hour and abc's late night shows would start a half hour later as most o/o abc networks got rid of World News Tonight for reruns of Kelly and Ryan and Tamron Hall.
For CBS with James Cordon leaving next year they could cancel that show and only keep the late show on from 11pm midnight central/midnight-1am eastern.
But eventually they will follow suit with nbc and get rid of the last half hour as abc puts more money into Disney+ and CBS for Paramount+.
For CBS with James Cordon leaving next year they could cancel that show and only keep the late show on from 11pm midnight central/midnight-1am eastern.
But eventually they will follow suit with nbc and get rid of the last half hour as abc puts more money into Disney+ and CBS for Paramount+.
Don't forget in ABC's case they have to deal with the fact that Disney also owns Hulu app. Its not just the Disney+ app they have to contend with its also their other app. The only remaining division at Disney that would keep the ABC name is ABC News.
Maybe the episodes are new to Ion, but all truly "new" episodes never seen anywhere before would only be on CBS. Ion isn't even owned by Paramount, they'd never allow new episodes of a popular show like that to be seen anywhere other than a Paramount property. If prime time gets cut by an hour, then yes, anything is possible with where shows could end up.
The article was later updated. CBS says they are keeping the hour at least for now.
But then again, if a lot of CBS affiliates want an hour of late evening local news at 10 P.M. ET/PT, then the network may have no choice but to follow NBC's lead (assuming NBC does give back the 10-11 P.M. ET/PT hour to it's affiliates).
It'll depend on ratings leading into 11pm.
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