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RobertMoore
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Meanwhile, speaking of NBC's schedule...
...It looks like this relationship is coming to a end:
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6316627.html?display=Breaking+News
...It looks like this relationship is coming to a end:
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6316627.html?display=Breaking+News
Re: Meanwhile, speaking of NBC's schedule...
> ...It looks like this relationship is coming to a end:
>
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6316627.html?display=Breaking+News
>
Hmmm...Looks to me like NBC was already cutting back the DK programming anyway in favor of new shows like Daybreak weekend and Today Weekend edition Saturday mornings...depending on which state you watch NBC in I guess...
Buffalo's NBC (Channel 2), for example, doesn't start DK shows until 10:30
Seattle's NBC seems to show more interest in airing Daybreak, then alot of news coverage, then a Highschool sports show (Blitz) that talks about HS sports in and around Washington State, then they go to a Gardening show of some sort just before starting up their golf coverage.
Respectfully, NBC can still surprise us with a whole new Saturday morning line up of some sort, but I still gather that the direction is going to be news and information related...and I may or may not be wrong...<P ID="signature">______________
"If you never say NO, How much is your YES worth?"
</P>
> ...It looks like this relationship is coming to a end:
>
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6316627.html?display=Breaking+News
>
Hmmm...Looks to me like NBC was already cutting back the DK programming anyway in favor of new shows like Daybreak weekend and Today Weekend edition Saturday mornings...depending on which state you watch NBC in I guess...
Buffalo's NBC (Channel 2), for example, doesn't start DK shows until 10:30
Seattle's NBC seems to show more interest in airing Daybreak, then alot of news coverage, then a Highschool sports show (Blitz) that talks about HS sports in and around Washington State, then they go to a Gardening show of some sort just before starting up their golf coverage.
Respectfully, NBC can still surprise us with a whole new Saturday morning line up of some sort, but I still gather that the direction is going to be news and information related...and I may or may not be wrong...<P ID="signature">______________
"If you never say NO, How much is your YES worth?"
</P>
Re: Meanwhile, speaking of NBC's schedule...
> Respectfully, NBC can still surprise us with a whole new
> Saturday morning line up of some sort, but I still gather
> that the direction is going to be news and information
> related...and I may or may not be wrong...
>
If they devote Saturday morning to news, what will they do to fulfill E/I requirements and where would they put it?
> Respectfully, NBC can still surprise us with a whole new
> Saturday morning line up of some sort, but I still gather
> that the direction is going to be news and information
> related...and I may or may not be wrong...
>
If they devote Saturday morning to news, what will they do to fulfill E/I requirements and where would they put it?
S
spinner
Guest
Re: Meanwhile, speaking of NBC's schedule...
They could make affiliates figure it out for themselves. Or they could pull some old junk out of the Universal library and feed it to stations to show as they please.
They could make affiliates figure it out for themselves. Or they could pull some old junk out of the Universal library and feed it to stations to show as they please.
J
Joseph_Gallant
Guest
Re: Meanwhile, speaking of NBC's schedule...
Clichemoth asked:
> If they devote Saturday morning to news, what will they do
> to fulfill E/I requirements and where would they put it?
Based on comments in a thread some time ago on this board (after I had asked whether NBC could add "kid-friendly" content to the weekend editions of "Today" to give them an "E/I" rating), it doesn't appear that NBC could designate the weekend editions of "Today" as "E/I".
Maybe NBC is hoping that either the FCC will repeal the "E/I" rules or that they will get shot down by the courts, so they can exit the children's television business.
I don't think a network will ask the courts to toss-out the "E/I" rules, but I think there's a good chance that a station group or an individual station could go to court to try to toss out the "E/I" rules.
If the rules are either repealed or thrown-out, ABC and CBS will probably also get out of the children's television business, and they (along with NBC) would probably reduce their Saturday-morning schedules to two hours each (likely 8-10 A.M. local time), broadcasting the Saturday versions of their morning shows, and encourage affiliates to broadcast local news shows before (6-8 or 7-8 A.M.) and after (10 A.M.-12 Noon) the network morning shows. That will probably happen in the top fifty markets; in smaller markets, it will likely mean more infomercials.
Clichemoth asked:
> If they devote Saturday morning to news, what will they do
> to fulfill E/I requirements and where would they put it?
Based on comments in a thread some time ago on this board (after I had asked whether NBC could add "kid-friendly" content to the weekend editions of "Today" to give them an "E/I" rating), it doesn't appear that NBC could designate the weekend editions of "Today" as "E/I".
Maybe NBC is hoping that either the FCC will repeal the "E/I" rules or that they will get shot down by the courts, so they can exit the children's television business.
I don't think a network will ask the courts to toss-out the "E/I" rules, but I think there's a good chance that a station group or an individual station could go to court to try to toss out the "E/I" rules.
If the rules are either repealed or thrown-out, ABC and CBS will probably also get out of the children's television business, and they (along with NBC) would probably reduce their Saturday-morning schedules to two hours each (likely 8-10 A.M. local time), broadcasting the Saturday versions of their morning shows, and encourage affiliates to broadcast local news shows before (6-8 or 7-8 A.M.) and after (10 A.M.-12 Noon) the network morning shows. That will probably happen in the top fifty markets; in smaller markets, it will likely mean more infomercials.
> Any word on what is going on? I know back in January
> everyone was talking about NBC maybe dropping Soaps and
> such. Any word on what is going on yet?
>
I have heard these rumors for years. A few years back they almost did drop the soaps but decided to hold on to them. If NBC were to end Days Of Our Lives and Passions here is what I perdict. Passions would not be picked while Days Of Our Lives would be picked up either by CBS or ABC (leaning toward CBS) CBS has an issue with Guiding Light. Still though CBS wants to make Bold & Beautiful an hour so where would Days go? ABC could add another hour to run Days. Still NBC seems to be committed to holding on to its two soaps for now. Still if days were canceled you can bet someone would grab it up.
> everyone was talking about NBC maybe dropping Soaps and
> such. Any word on what is going on yet?
>
I have heard these rumors for years. A few years back they almost did drop the soaps but decided to hold on to them. If NBC were to end Days Of Our Lives and Passions here is what I perdict. Passions would not be picked while Days Of Our Lives would be picked up either by CBS or ABC (leaning toward CBS) CBS has an issue with Guiding Light. Still though CBS wants to make Bold & Beautiful an hour so where would Days go? ABC could add another hour to run Days. Still NBC seems to be committed to holding on to its two soaps for now. Still if days were canceled you can bet someone would grab it up.
> ABC could add another hour to run Days.
ABC might have some problems getting affiliates to clear another hour of network daytime.
Soaps that have switched networks in recent years haven't done too well on the second network. "Edge of Night" managed to stay on ABC a few years after jumping from CBS, but hardly any ABC affiliates carried it in later years. "Search for Tomorrow" also kind of fizzled after jumping from CBS to NBC. Again, there were a lot of affiliate pre-emptions. And these soaps all showed up in time periods that the networks were already programming...they didn't have to carve out another time slot.
CBS would probably be the best bet for "Days," as "Guiding Light" seems to be on the way out. "Days" might do a little better against "General Hospital" than "Guiding Light" at 3:00/2:00 Central. However, most of the CBS O&Os in the East, as well as a few affiliates, would probably run "Days" at 10AM Eastern like they do "Guiding Light" now. However, I suppose CBS could air "Days" at 2:00/1:00 Central and give "As the World Turns" the Guiding Light treatment. Which show gets higher ratings?
Looking ahead, you could also take into account what CBS will do with "The Price Is Right" when Bob Barker is no longer able to host. Although CBS may try to carry on with TPIR without Barker, I don't see the audience accepting the show without Barker as host. Barker and TPIR are one in the same. CBS could use that hour to accomodate another soap if the network did, in fact, acquire "Days of Our Lives" and hang onto "Guiding Light." However, unless something unexpected happens with Barker in the near future, I see CBS losing "Guiding Light" first.
ABC might have some problems getting affiliates to clear another hour of network daytime.
Soaps that have switched networks in recent years haven't done too well on the second network. "Edge of Night" managed to stay on ABC a few years after jumping from CBS, but hardly any ABC affiliates carried it in later years. "Search for Tomorrow" also kind of fizzled after jumping from CBS to NBC. Again, there were a lot of affiliate pre-emptions. And these soaps all showed up in time periods that the networks were already programming...they didn't have to carve out another time slot.
CBS would probably be the best bet for "Days," as "Guiding Light" seems to be on the way out. "Days" might do a little better against "General Hospital" than "Guiding Light" at 3:00/2:00 Central. However, most of the CBS O&Os in the East, as well as a few affiliates, would probably run "Days" at 10AM Eastern like they do "Guiding Light" now. However, I suppose CBS could air "Days" at 2:00/1:00 Central and give "As the World Turns" the Guiding Light treatment. Which show gets higher ratings?
Looking ahead, you could also take into account what CBS will do with "The Price Is Right" when Bob Barker is no longer able to host. Although CBS may try to carry on with TPIR without Barker, I don't see the audience accepting the show without Barker as host. Barker and TPIR are one in the same. CBS could use that hour to accomodate another soap if the network did, in fact, acquire "Days of Our Lives" and hang onto "Guiding Light." However, unless something unexpected happens with Barker in the near future, I see CBS losing "Guiding Light" first.
B
BostonNews
Guest
> Looking ahead, you could also take into account what CBS
> will do with "The Price Is Right" when Bob Barker is no
> longer able to host. Although CBS may try to carry on with
> TPIR without Barker, I don't see the audience accepting the
> show without Barker as host. Barker and TPIR are one in the
> same. CBS could use that hour to accomodate another soap if
> the network did, in fact, acquire "Days of Our Lives" and
> hang onto "Guiding Light." However, unless something
> unexpected happens with Barker in the near future, I see CBS
> losing "Guiding Light" first.
I think it's likely that "GL" would end with "Bold and the Beautiful" expanding to an hour. That would give affiliates and additional half-hour, likely at 12:30pm. They would either expand midday newscasts or air a 60-min syndicated daytime show in the slot.
> will do with "The Price Is Right" when Bob Barker is no
> longer able to host. Although CBS may try to carry on with
> TPIR without Barker, I don't see the audience accepting the
> show without Barker as host. Barker and TPIR are one in the
> same. CBS could use that hour to accomodate another soap if
> the network did, in fact, acquire "Days of Our Lives" and
> hang onto "Guiding Light." However, unless something
> unexpected happens with Barker in the near future, I see CBS
> losing "Guiding Light" first.
I think it's likely that "GL" would end with "Bold and the Beautiful" expanding to an hour. That would give affiliates and additional half-hour, likely at 12:30pm. They would either expand midday newscasts or air a 60-min syndicated daytime show in the slot.
> I think it's likely that "GL" would end with "Bold and the
> Beautiful" expanding to an hour. That would give affiliates
> and additional half-hour, likely at 12:30pm. They would
> either expand midday newscasts or air a 60-min syndicated
> daytime show in the slot.
>
Two things to take into account:
1) DO STATIONS WANT MORE TIME AT NOON?
Are a lot of CBS affiliates clamoring for an hour of local time in the midday? They may very well be...I just don't know that they are. As it is right now, affiliates get to stick their news either between TPIR & Y&R or Y&R & B&B (depending on time zone), all of which do well in the ratings, which in turn usually makes for good local news ratings at noon. If smaller market stations have to stick a half-hour of syndication in there to fill the hour, or if viewers have to sit through an hour-long newscast that may not be that great to begin with, that could potentially run the risk of the audience leaving and not hanging around for Y&R or an hour-long B&B (again, depending on time zone). That scenario would also pit Y&R directly against ABC's "All My Children" in the East, whereas Y&R now gets a 30-minute jump on AMC in the East.
2) WHY GIVE BACK WHAT ISN'T BEING PRE-EMPTED?
As it is right now, every CBS affiliate except for WNEM in Flint and KOVR in Sacramento clears "Guiding Light." KOTV in Tulsa is the only affiliate that messes with "The Bold and the Beautiful"...they used to pre-empt it entirely, now they delay it to 1:05 AM. Over the years, the networks have gradually given a few time daytime slots back to the affiliates. In virtually every case, network programming in those slots was moderately or heavily pre-empted by the affiliates. At least in the short-run, I don't see CBS returning any time slots which are being cleared by 99 percent of the affiliates.
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by SteveRichards on 03/20/06 08:17 AM.</FONT></P>
> Beautiful" expanding to an hour. That would give affiliates
> and additional half-hour, likely at 12:30pm. They would
> either expand midday newscasts or air a 60-min syndicated
> daytime show in the slot.
>
Two things to take into account:
1) DO STATIONS WANT MORE TIME AT NOON?
Are a lot of CBS affiliates clamoring for an hour of local time in the midday? They may very well be...I just don't know that they are. As it is right now, affiliates get to stick their news either between TPIR & Y&R or Y&R & B&B (depending on time zone), all of which do well in the ratings, which in turn usually makes for good local news ratings at noon. If smaller market stations have to stick a half-hour of syndication in there to fill the hour, or if viewers have to sit through an hour-long newscast that may not be that great to begin with, that could potentially run the risk of the audience leaving and not hanging around for Y&R or an hour-long B&B (again, depending on time zone). That scenario would also pit Y&R directly against ABC's "All My Children" in the East, whereas Y&R now gets a 30-minute jump on AMC in the East.
2) WHY GIVE BACK WHAT ISN'T BEING PRE-EMPTED?
As it is right now, every CBS affiliate except for WNEM in Flint and KOVR in Sacramento clears "Guiding Light." KOTV in Tulsa is the only affiliate that messes with "The Bold and the Beautiful"...they used to pre-empt it entirely, now they delay it to 1:05 AM. Over the years, the networks have gradually given a few time daytime slots back to the affiliates. In virtually every case, network programming in those slots was moderately or heavily pre-empted by the affiliates. At least in the short-run, I don't see CBS returning any time slots which are being cleared by 99 percent of the affiliates.
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by SteveRichards on 03/20/06 08:17 AM.</FONT></P>
Re: Meanwhile, speaking of NBC's schedule...
> They could make affiliates figure it out for themselves. Or
> they could pull some old junk out of the Universal library
> and feed it to stations to show as they please.
>
To rip off our 'speculative' correspondent...
I'm assuming ABC could do aggressive counterprogramming with
'The New Adventures of Oswald the Lucky Rabbit'.;-)
> They could make affiliates figure it out for themselves. Or
> they could pull some old junk out of the Universal library
> and feed it to stations to show as they please.
>
To rip off our 'speculative' correspondent...
I'm assuming ABC could do aggressive counterprogramming with
'The New Adventures of Oswald the Lucky Rabbit'.;-)
Re: Meanwhile, speaking of NBC's schedule...
> Seattle's NBC seems to show more interest in airing
> Daybreak, then alot of news coverage, then a Highschool
> sports show (Blitz) that talks about HS sports in and
> around Washington State, then they go to a Gardening show of
> some sort just before starting up their golf coverage.
Here in the Norfolk market, WAVY pre-empts a total of an hour of Discovery Kids on NBC with their high school quiz show "Battle of the Brains" at 10am and "Kid Talk" at 11:30. They air "Flight 29 Is Down" on Sunday and they don't air "Endurance".
> Seattle's NBC seems to show more interest in airing
> Daybreak, then alot of news coverage, then a Highschool
> sports show (Blitz) that talks about HS sports in and
> around Washington State, then they go to a Gardening show of
> some sort just before starting up their golf coverage.
Here in the Norfolk market, WAVY pre-empts a total of an hour of Discovery Kids on NBC with their high school quiz show "Battle of the Brains" at 10am and "Kid Talk" at 11:30. They air "Flight 29 Is Down" on Sunday and they don't air "Endurance".
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