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NBC has lost its mind!

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EricStein

The network, which is trimming back five hours of prime-time programming this fall to make way for Jay Leno, has renewed "Chuck" for another season. Either there isn't much coming down the NBC creative pipeline this fall or they caved in to the small group of fans that started a "save Chuck" campaign online.

This is kind of reminiscent of another quirky non-mainstream NBC show that didn't pull big ratings but had a cult following earlier this decade, "Ed."

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3ibd965fb07c29611179e4aede52d7201a?imw=Y
 
A 13-week renewal isn't exactly a HUGE vote of confidence. However, the additional episodes will help sell the show into syndication and internationally.
 
SanDiegoInExile said:
A 13-week renewal isn't exactly a HUGE vote of confidence. However, the additional episodes will help sell the show into syndication and internationally.
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NBC initially ordered only 13 "Chuck" this past season when it shouldn't have been renewed after the first season to begin with, then went ahead and green-lighted a full season order before it even started - because NBC liked the "creative" - and it still was a mediocre performer! Maybe an extra 13 will make up for the strike-shortened '07-08 season, and therefore it can finish up its network run with enough episodes for G4 to purchase the cable rights to and rerun them until the end of time.

These moves make it clear that NBC is a "dead network walking."
 
Eric Stein said:
The network, which is trimming back five hours of prime-time programming this fall to make way for Jay Leno, has renewed "Chuck" for another season. Either there isn't much coming down the NBC creative pipeline this fall or they caved in to the small group of fans that started a "save Chuck" campaign online.

This is kind of reminiscent of another quirky non-mainstream NBC show that didn't pull big ratings but had a cult following earlier this decade, "Ed."

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3ibd965fb07c29611179e4aede52d7201a?imw=Y
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What about other famous shows that started off slow?
like M*A*S*H?
Seinfeld?
All in the Family?

All these shows started off with basement ratings...
 
I gotta disagree with the OP, Chuck is one of the better shows NBC has greenlit in the past few years. They should have found a way to keep Life or perhaps move it to USA.
 
Eric Stein said:
This is kind of reminiscent of another quirky non-mainstream NBC show that didn't pull big ratings but had a cult following earlier this decade, "Ed."
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You think if MSNBC replaced their low-rated "The Ed [Schultz] Show" with reruns of "Ed", anybody would notice? ???
 
Garrett said:
Eric Stein said:
The network, which is trimming back five hours of prime-time programming this fall to make way for Jay Leno, has renewed "Chuck" for another season. Either there isn't much coming down the NBC creative pipeline this fall or they caved in to the small group of fans that started a "save Chuck" campaign online.

This is kind of reminiscent of another quirky non-mainstream NBC show that didn't pull big ratings but had a cult following earlier this decade, "Ed."

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3ibd965fb07c29611179e4aede52d7201a?imw=Y
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What about other famous shows that started off slow?
like M*A*S*H?
Seinfeld?
All in the Family?

All these shows started off with basement ratings...
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As the big shots at the network would say....

"Sorry, no time for that. Gotta make the stockholders happy right now. Besides, all these artsy-fartsy shows are too expensive to produce and people have to think and pay attention to enjoy them. Thats old thinking. What we need is more reality TV. Who cares if we are proud of it 5 or 10 years from now, we need cash now."

couldn't resist....
 
BRNout said:
Nate Wesley said:
I gotta disagree with the OP, Chuck is one of the better shows NBC has greenlit in the past few years.
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Faint praise indeed.
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That may be true, and their low ratings may attest to that. But for me personally, 80% of my prime-time network viewing is on NBC, mostly Thursday night. All of the Thursday comedies are very inventive, and Southland is a good effort, even if it's been done before. Other than that, I stick almost exclusively to non "Big 4" programming in the evening - news, Daily Show/Colbert Report, a NetFlix blu-ray movie, and time-shifted cable programming that I've DVRed. I can't abide reality shows, and I've been totally bored with the glut of crime-procedurals (CBS's stock in trade) for years.

ABC deserves also some credit for inventive comedies (Pushing Up Daisies, Better Off Ted) but they never seem to last more than 13 weeks.
 
Garrett said:
What about other famous shows that started off slow?
like M*A*S*H?
Seinfeld?
All in the Family?

All these shows started off with basement ratings...
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The shows you mentioned at least had something to offer a mainstream audience, even if Seinfeld was the "show about nothing." "Chuck" has limited audience appeal outside of the young adult "geek" demographic. It's a show that tries to be a comedy and a suspense drama at the same time, but fails at both.

On the other hand, the much better "Reaper" got stuck on the CW network, and has no chance of being renewed after this season.
 
Lkeller said:
ABC deserves also some credit for inventive comedies (Pushing Up Daisies, Better Off Ted) but they never seem to last more than 13 weeks.
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ABC's upcoming Mike Judge animated comedy, "The Goode Family," looks interesting, and I'm eager to see how it does as a summer replacement. Right now, I have doubts that it will make it past five shows, and will be the show that bankrupts its production company (Media Rights Capital, which has yet to have a hit on any network - save for Lifetime's "Rita Rocks" - which fared well for the female network), but I'm rooting for it.
 
The only NBC prime time show I watched this past year was Knight Rider, and it appears that isn't coming back. I guess Leno will replace that in my "must see" schedule. However, I do have my doubts about him staying around longer than one year while Conan takes over the Tonight Show.

As for The Goode Family on ABC, I don't know too much about it. From what I read, it seems like a complete opposite of King of the Hill to me. But I don't have high hopes for any new show, since just about every new show I tried to follow this past decade ends up being canned and usually replaced by some reality show.
 
BlueWanderer said:
I guess Leno will replace that in my "must see" schedule. However, I do have my doubts about him staying around longer than one year while Conan takes over the Tonight Show.
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I think that even if Leno fails, I think we're going to see some weeknight program take one primetime hour away from the original Big 3 networks sometime down the road. It'll probably be news or a news program at 8/7 CT, then followed by two scripted programs. NBC could just have it backwards.
 
Why does NBC do a fall / winter schedule? Thats part of the reason and why they lost Medium to CBS. Might this be another bad move by NBC when they thought JAG wouldn't be a hit in 1996 and CBS takes it and becomes a hit and lasts 10 seaons. And didn't NBC almost want the CSI series but said no and CBS took that too? Only NBC Primetime I watch is Sunday Night Football. As for the other nights I watch CBS. Im surprised that NBC owned by Universial which owns a top cable network USA can't help out NBC. Maybe Monk and Raw should go to NBC. Better yet have a nite just for a rerun of Monk kind of like CBS does on Saturday "Crimetime".
 
Ken said:
Why does NBC do a fall / winter schedule? Thats part of the reason and why they lost Medium to CBS. Might this be another bad move by NBC when they thought JAG wouldn't be a hit in 1996 and CBS takes it and becomes a hit and lasts 10 seaons. And didn't NBC almost want the CSI series but said no and CBS took that too? Only NBC Primetime I watch is Sunday Night Football. As for the other nights I watch CBS. Im surprised that NBC owned by Universial which owns a top cable network USA can't help out NBC. Maybe Monk and Raw should go to NBC. Better yet have a nite just for a rerun of Monk kind of like CBS does on Saturday "Crimetime".
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The main reason they are doing a fall/winter schedule is mostly due to the Winter Olympics in February. Those shows will be pre-empt and the event is also during sweeps.
 
With a more defined split schedule, NBC is just following a template that's worked, more or less, for Fox. Let's be honest, ABC has done it to some degree as well, even if it's not called out as such. They made some pretty substantial revisions to their schedule, they just didn't say the previous May what would air when when the 'second season' started.

And the reason NBC 'lost' Medium is they cancelled it.
 
imhomerjay said:
And the reason NBC 'lost' Medium is they cancelled it.
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That's one of the reasons.....IMHO maybe it's because that the show is produced by CBS Paramount, and with the exception of the reality shows, Deal or No Deal (Endemol USA), Chuck and Southland (both Warner Bros.), majority of the programming is from NBC Universal...can you say "Cheep"?!!?
 
Ken said:
Im surprised that NBC owned by Universial which owns a top cable network USA can't help out NBC. Maybe Monk and Raw should go to NBC. Better yet have a nite just for a rerun of Monk kind of like CBS does on Saturday "Crimetime".
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NBC did that about a year and a half ago with reruns of Monk and Psych. It did not go well, especially when they were on Sunday nights.
 
cutelittlecaramelkid said:
Ken said:
Im surprised that NBC owned by Universial which owns a top cable network USA can't help out NBC. Maybe Monk and Raw should go to NBC. Better yet have a nite just for a rerun of Monk kind of like CBS does on Saturday "Crimetime".
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NBC did that about a year and a half ago with reruns of Monk and Psych. It did not go well, especially when they were on Sunday nights.
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Sunday night wasn't smart. NBC should of been doing that during a weeknight.

Maybe Leon at 10pm might work and bring some viewers. Still has to go up aganist CBS's strong drama shows at ten. Two of those being CSI: Miami on Monday and CSI: NY on Wednesday.
 
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