NBC In Talks With KRON Owners

[BossRadioDJ]

In our radio-with-pictures category, NBC is in talks to share services with the owners of KRON (Channel 4):

...Comcast's deal to acquire a majority stake in NBC does not affect the progress made in talks to work out a shared services agreement between KRON and NBC, which owns KNTV in San Jose. KRON would presumably operate out of KNTV headquarters should the deal be worked out.

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/449260-NBC_in_Talks_to_Partner_with_KRON.php

 

[Michael Rivers Kramer]

In our radio-with-pictures category, NBC is in talks to share services with the owners of KRON (Channel 4):

...Comcast's deal to acquire a majority stake in NBC does not affect the progress made in talks to work out a shared services agreement between KRON and NBC, which owns KNTV in San Jose. KRON would presumably operate out of KNTV headquarters should the deal be worked out.

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/449260-NBC_in_Talks_to_Partner_with_KRON.php

This is an interesting development. It should be posted on the California Television Board.

 

[recto101]

In our radio-with-pictures category, NBC is in talks to share services with the owners of KRON (Channel 4):

...Comcast's deal to acquire a majority stake in NBC does not affect the progress made in talks to work out a shared services agreement between KRON and NBC, which owns KNTV in San Jose. KRON would presumably operate out of KNTV headquarters should the deal be worked out.

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/449260-NBC_in_Talks_to_Partner_with_KRON.php

This is an interesting development. It should be posted on the California Television Board.

I think My network TV should move to the KSTS 48 signal but Who buys 48 if NBC wants 4. How Come when young own KCAL9 in the 1990's they made KCAL the best station. Once they got KRON Young fell big time.

 

[BossRadioDJ]

How Come when young own KCAL9 in the 1990's they made KCAL the best station.

The key phrase here: "in the 1990s." Although that doesn't seem like too long ago, it's forever ago when you're talking local television.

 

[LKellerIII]

In our radio-with-pictures category, NBC is in talks to share services with the owners of KRON (Channel 4):

...Comcast's deal to acquire a majority stake in NBC does not affect the progress made in talks to work out a shared services agreement between KRON and NBC, which owns KNTV in San Jose. KRON would presumably operate out of KNTV headquarters should the deal be worked out.

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/449260-NBC_in_Talks_to_Partner_with_KRON.php

This is an interesting development. It should be posted on the California Television Board.

I think My network TV should move to the KSTS 48 signal but Who buys 48 if NBC wants 4. How Come when young own KCAL9 in the 1990's they made KCAL the best station. Once they got KRON Young fell big time.

From what I know - the answer is - they didn't pay $750 million for KCAL9, and KCAL was already an independent station, unaffiliated with any network. Also, it was Disney that bought the station (KHJ-TV, until then) from longtime owner RKO General, and Disney that turned Channel 9 into a decent station. Under RKO, it wasn't much to brag about. Then - when Disney bought ABC in the mid 90s, it had to get rid of KCAL under the FCC regulations of that time. That's when Young came into the picture.

Young paid way too much for KRON, which was valuable in great part because it was an NBC affiliate. But then NBC yanked the affiliation.

From what I've heard, Young's current economic misfortune is almost entirely due to the KRON debacle.

 

[DToTheJ]

In our radio-with-pictures category, NBC is in talks to share services with the owners of KRON (Channel 4):

...Comcast's deal to acquire a majority stake in NBC does not affect the progress made in talks to work out a shared services agreement between KRON and NBC, which owns KNTV in San Jose. KRON would presumably operate out of KNTV headquarters should the deal be worked out.

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/449260-NBC_in_Talks_to_Partner_with_KRON.php

This is an interesting development. It should be posted on the California Television Board.

I think My network TV should move to the KSTS 48 signal but Who buys 48 if NBC wants 4. How Come when young own KCAL9 in the 1990's they made KCAL the best station. Once they got KRON Young fell big time.

From what I know - the answer is - they didn't pay $750 million for KCAL9, and KCAL was already an independent station, unaffiliated with any network. Also, it was Disney that bought the station (KHJ-TV, until then) from longtime owner RKO General, and Disney that turned Channel 9 into a decent station. Under RKO, it wasn't much to brag about. Then - when Disney bought ABC in the mid 90s, it had to get rid of KCAL under the FCC regulations of that time. That's when Young came into the picture.

Young paid way too much for KRON, which was valuable in great part because it was an NBC affiliate. But then NBC yanked the affiliation.

From what I've heard, Young's current economic misfortune is almost entirely due to the KRON debacle.

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[LKellerIII]

Well excuuuuuusssee me, Mr. Cockroach. Sometimes a post can be a response to a previous post, sometimes not, so when it is a response, quoting it provides context. When I'm feeling less lazy and have a few minutes, I often edit the quote down to only the part I'm responding to - but it's frequently glitchy and screws up the formatting.

I notice others do this more skillfully than I do, so perhaps I need a lesson in proper quote editing. Maybe the Board Managers can provide a link to a tutorial.

 

[Rusty Muck]

If that goes down, chalk it up as the best move NBC has made in possibly the past 20 years. If not longer. The only logical move is to merge the KRON and KNTV newsrooms onto KRON as the new NBC O&O. And what's not to say KNTV and KSTS swap affiliations, with KSTS being spun off? They can't program for three stations.

 

[LKellerIII]

If that goes down, chalk it up as the best move NBC has made in possibly the past 20 years. If not longer. The only logical move is to merge the KRON and KNTV newsrooms onto KRON as the new NBC O&O. And what's not to say KNTV and KSTS swap affiliations, with KSTS being spun off? They can't program for three stations.

Really? I think you're misinterpreting the deal that is being negotiated. NBC will not own KRON, they will merely enter into a deal in which KRON can share NBC's state of the art San Jose facilities with KNTV. Essentially, NBC will become KRON's landlord. Perhaps they will end up sharing some programming. You can speculate that KRON might drop their pathetic news operation all together (realizing a big savings), and run KNTV's news, similar to the KPIX/KBCW or KGO-TV/KOFY combos.

Though NBC is having some well publicized problems lately, they're still a major corporation, while Young TV is a much smaller...and very bankrupt company. KRON's facility on Van Ness Avenue is sitting on some very valuable real estate, and Young can make some major money selling the property for development - probably as high-rise condominiums.

I doubt NBC is interested in shifting NBC programming to KRON. In this cable TV-satellite world, NBC gains nothing by moving their NBC programming from broadcast channel 11 to channel 4. Either way, it's "NBC Bay Area," right? The majority of Bay Area viewers get their TV from cable or satellite, and couldn't care less what dial position their NBC programming is on.

 

[Rusty Muck]

If that goes down, chalk it up as the best move NBC has made in possibly the past 20 years. If not longer. The only logical move is to merge the KRON and KNTV newsrooms onto KRON as the new NBC O&O. And what's not to say KNTV and KSTS swap affiliations, with KSTS being spun off? They can't program for three stations.

Really? I think you're misinterpreting the deal that is being negotiated. NBC will not own KRON, they will merely enter into a deal in which KRON can share NBC's state of the art San Jose facilities with KNTV. Essentially, NBC will become KRON's landlord. Perhaps they will end up sharing some programming. You can speculate that KRON might drop their pathetic news operation all together (realizing a big savings), and run KNTV's news, similar to the KPIX/KBCW or KGO-TV/KOFY combos.

Though NBC is having some well publicized problems lately, they're still a major corporation, while Young TV is a much smaller...and very bankrupt company. KRON's facility on Van Ness Avenue is sitting on some very valuable real estate, and Young can make some major money selling the property for development - probably as high-rise condominiums.

I doubt NBC is interested in shifting NBC programming to KRON. In this cable TV-satellite world, NBC gains nothing by moving their NBC programming from broadcast channel 11 to channel 4. Either way, it's "NBC Bay Area," right? The majority of Bay Area viewers get their TV from cable or satellite, and couldn't care less what dial position their NBC programming is on.

I understand. I also keep forgetting that PSIP encoding and RF channel mapping have made the old dial number system obsolete to begin with. :-[

The fate of KRON is the true definition of irony. NBC fought the de Young family for the license in the first place, then fought Young Broadcasting to buy it from the de Youngs in 2001, going so far as to establish an O&O almost from scratch with KNTV. Now... they could have what is probably a totally worthless KRON as a tenant.

 

[Hunkey Snarkey]

Nathan, youve got it right, KRON has pathedic news! Compared to KTVU, the #1 station for news! I dont see how KRON could have more than at best, one hundred people watching their news! And the weather bunnies, What a joke, @ KTVU youve got Steve Paulson meteoroligist, the best thing since Pete Giddings left KGO! And Sal @ KTVU doing traffic, wow, what a difference compared to George Rask!!!!!!!!!!!! KTVU is the leader,#1,,, Even with Dennis Richmond gone, KTVU steamrolls the competition!!!!!!!!!!!! KTVU is everywhere!!!!!!!!!! I only wish the VO guy doing the 10oclock news Voice Over was Charley Van Dyke,, like the 1990 intro on KTVUs 10 oclock news!!!!!!!!!!! KRON cant last much longer,,,, Theres only One TWO!!!!!!!!!!! Kenny in Concord

 

[1069_KIFR]

Whom should KTVU use as a new V/O, John Mac Flanangan or Bobby Ocean?

 

[jussomeguy]

Whom should KTVU use as a new V/O, John Mac Flanangan or Bobby Ocean?

Seems off-topic from the KRON thread, but since you asked: neither. The days of one-voice Gary Owens-style "announcers" are, thankfully, long gone..

 

[LKellerIII]

Whom should KTVU use as a new V/O, John Mac Flanangan or Bobby Ocean?

Seems off-topic from the KRON thread, but since you asked: neither. The days of one-voice Gary Owens-style "announcers" are, thankfully, long gone..

Yes, true - but can't you hear Bobby Ocean in that low voice he does saying; "And nowwww...the 10 O'Clock News on Kay - Tee - Vee - Youuuuuuu, Channel Twoooo..."

 

[e-dawg]

Why does NBC want to sell KSTS Telemundo 48. Their signal is nicely well deserved into the Spanish speaking community. Majority of the Spanish speaking community lives in the Southbay area. Look at KDTV Univision 14 signal.

 

[BossRadioDJ]

In our radio-with-pictures category, NBC is in talks to share services with the owners of KRON (Channel 4):

...Comcast's deal to acquire a majority stake in NBC does not affect the progress made in talks to work out a shared services agreement between KRON and NBC, which owns KNTV in San Jose. KRON would presumably operate out of KNTV headquarters should the deal be worked out.

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/449260-NBC_in_Talks_to_Partner_with_KRON.php

This is an interesting development. It should be posted on the California Television Board.

I think My network TV should move to the KSTS 48 signal but Who buys 48 if NBC wants 4. How Come when young own KCAL9 in the 1990's they made KCAL the best station. Once they got KRON Young fell big time.

From what I know - the answer is - they didn't pay $750 million for KCAL9, and KCAL was already an independent station, unaffiliated with any network. Also, it was Disney that bought the station (KHJ-TV, until then) from longtime owner RKO General, and Disney that turned Channel 9 into a decent station. Under RKO, it wasn't much to brag about. Then - when Disney bought ABC in the mid 90s, it had to get rid of KCAL under the FCC regulations of that time. That's when Young came into the picture.

Young paid way too much for KRON, which was valuable in great part because it was an NBC affiliate. But then NBC yanked the affiliation.

From what I've heard, Young's current economic misfortune is almost entirely due to the KRON debacle.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Is-it...of-a-message-board-thread/279979714850?ref=ts

I'm actually with Cockroach on this one.