I just found it interesting how NBC was the only major network to televise the midnight mass from the Vatican, although it was on tape delay. Was there a bidding process like a sporting event, where only one network could do it in this country because they paid the most, or is NBC just THE Catholic network and the others are protestant? Does NBC show the Vatican every Christmas?
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> > Does NBC
> > show the Vatican every Christmas?
>
> They've done it every year for as long as I can remember.
> Also, it's up to the affiliate on whether they want to clear
> it or not.
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WICU 12 in Erie, PA didn't run that service last night. They ran SNL instead. Also in Erie, WJET 24 (ABC) ran a service from a St. Peter's Cathedral, which was confusing at first, but it became obvious quickly that it was a local service.<P ID="signature">______________
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> > show the Vatican every Christmas?
>
> They've done it every year for as long as I can remember.
> Also, it's up to the affiliate on whether they want to clear
> it or not.
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WICU 12 in Erie, PA didn't run that service last night. They ran SNL instead. Also in Erie, WJET 24 (ABC) ran a service from a St. Peter's Cathedral, which was confusing at first, but it became obvious quickly that it was a local service.<P ID="signature">______________
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> WICU 12 in Erie, PA didn't run that service last night.
> They ran SNL instead. Also in Erie, WJET 24 (ABC) ran a
> service from a St. Peter's Cathedral, which was confusing at
> first, but it became obvious quickly that it was a local
> service.
It pre-empted SNL (East & Pacific) & SNL All Nite (Central & Mountain), IIRC, as it ran at midnight in all timezones. (I didn't work last night, so I could be totally wrong)
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> They ran SNL instead. Also in Erie, WJET 24 (ABC) ran a
> service from a St. Peter's Cathedral, which was confusing at
> first, but it became obvious quickly that it was a local
> service.
It pre-empted SNL (East & Pacific) & SNL All Nite (Central & Mountain), IIRC, as it ran at midnight in all timezones. (I didn't work last night, so I could be totally wrong)
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fatbastard
Guest
> I just found it interesting how NBC was the only major
> network to televise the midnight mass from the Vatican,
> although it was on tape delay. Was there a bidding process
> like a sporting event, where only one network could do it in
> this country because they paid the most, or is NBC just THE
> Catholic network and the others are protestant? Does NBC
> show the Vatican every Christmas?
>
yes, every x-mas since 1974. cnn has been showing the live feed from rome(6pm et) for the past few years as has ewtn, of course.
here in the boston market, wlvi-tv(wb56) picks up services from ny's st.patrick's cathedral which are produced by tribune's wpix(wb11).
> network to televise the midnight mass from the Vatican,
> although it was on tape delay. Was there a bidding process
> like a sporting event, where only one network could do it in
> this country because they paid the most, or is NBC just THE
> Catholic network and the others are protestant? Does NBC
> show the Vatican every Christmas?
>
yes, every x-mas since 1974. cnn has been showing the live feed from rome(6pm et) for the past few years as has ewtn, of course.
here in the boston market, wlvi-tv(wb56) picks up services from ny's st.patrick's cathedral which are produced by tribune's wpix(wb11).
> It pre-empted SNL (East & Pacific) & SNL All Nite (Central &
> Mountain), IIRC, as it ran at midnight in all timezones.
In the Tampa Bay area, the Vatican service started at 11:30PM, instead of 12 Midnight, and ran until 1:30AM.
As for WICU carrying SNL instead of the service -- did NBC offer a separate feed last night? I thought SNL was totally pre-empted nationwide, and those unwilling to carry the service was left on their own.
> Mountain), IIRC, as it ran at midnight in all timezones.
In the Tampa Bay area, the Vatican service started at 11:30PM, instead of 12 Midnight, and ran until 1:30AM.
As for WICU carrying SNL instead of the service -- did NBC offer a separate feed last night? I thought SNL was totally pre-empted nationwide, and those unwilling to carry the service was left on their own.
T
TXengineer
Guest
> > It pre-empted SNL (East & Pacific) & SNL All Nite (Central
> &
> > Mountain), IIRC, as it ran at midnight in all timezones.
>
> In the Tampa Bay area, the Vatican service started at
> 11:30PM, instead of 12 Midnight, and ran until 1:30AM.
>
> As for WICU carrying SNL instead of the service -- did NBC
> offer a separate feed last night? I thought SNL was totally
> pre-empted nationwide, and those unwilling to carry the
> service was left on their own.
>
In the past SNL would be fed down on a pre-feed for the overnight "SNL All night" which some stations tape (It is also fed live via Network). It probably was that feed...
Of course the local affiliate could have taped it recently too.
> &
> > Mountain), IIRC, as it ran at midnight in all timezones.
>
> In the Tampa Bay area, the Vatican service started at
> 11:30PM, instead of 12 Midnight, and ran until 1:30AM.
>
> As for WICU carrying SNL instead of the service -- did NBC
> offer a separate feed last night? I thought SNL was totally
> pre-empted nationwide, and those unwilling to carry the
> service was left on their own.
>
In the past SNL would be fed down on a pre-feed for the overnight "SNL All night" which some stations tape (It is also fed live via Network). It probably was that feed...
Of course the local affiliate could have taped it recently too.
> > I just found it interesting how NBC was the only major
> > network to televise the midnight mass from the Vatican,
> > although it was on tape delay. Was there a bidding
> process
> > like a sporting event, where only one network could do it
> in
> > this country because they paid the most, or is NBC just
> THE
> > Catholic network and the others are protestant? Does NBC
>
> > show the Vatican every Christmas?
> >
>
> yes, every x-mas since 1974. cnn has been showing the live
> feed from rome(6pm et) for the past few years as has ewtn,
> of course.
>
> here in the boston market, wlvi-tv(wb56) picks up services
> from ny's st.patrick's cathedral which are produced by
> tribune's wpix(wb11).
>
What time did WB56 show the mass? Here in Hartford we have two Tribune stations, Fox61 had South Park on at midnight and I believe WB20 had Just Shoot Me..
> > network to televise the midnight mass from the Vatican,
> > although it was on tape delay. Was there a bidding
> process
> > like a sporting event, where only one network could do it
> in
> > this country because they paid the most, or is NBC just
> THE
> > Catholic network and the others are protestant? Does NBC
>
> > show the Vatican every Christmas?
> >
>
> yes, every x-mas since 1974. cnn has been showing the live
> feed from rome(6pm et) for the past few years as has ewtn,
> of course.
>
> here in the boston market, wlvi-tv(wb56) picks up services
> from ny's st.patrick's cathedral which are produced by
> tribune's wpix(wb11).
>
What time did WB56 show the mass? Here in Hartford we have two Tribune stations, Fox61 had South Park on at midnight and I believe WB20 had Just Shoot Me..
J
Joseph_Gallant
Guest
Re: Christmas Eve Midnight Masses On TV
The NBC feed of the Vatican Midnight Mass began at 11:30 P.M. EST (and I would think also at 11:30 PST). I suspect it may have been 10:30 Central and Mountain, but it's possible that in the Central and Mountain time zones, the "Saturday Night Live" "all-night" rerun may have been fed from 10:30 P.M.-12 Midnight CST/MST with the Vatican Mass at Midnight CST/MST. Maybe someone in the Midwest or the Rockies can verify this.
BTW, Last night, I went alone to a Christmas Eve service at a local church which began at 10 P.M. (My girlfriend, who works as a cashier in a parking garage, could not get the night off. It's the first time since we've known each other that she didn't go with me to the service). I went home after the service, and just before Midnight, my girlfriend dropped by, and we watched the St. Patrick's Midnight Mass on TV together.
At one time, the St. Patrick's Midnight Mass was on NBC. I don't know when the Vatican allowed live TV coverage of the Pope's Midnight Mass. I tend to think it wasn't until the early 1970's, and once the Vatican Mass became available for television broadcast in the 'States, NBC dropped the St. Patrick's Mass to show (on a tape-delay) the Vatican Mass.
I have visited St. Patrick's Cathedral, and I can tell you that the inside of the sanctuary is much bigger than it appears to be on TV! In physical size, it's one of the country's largest churches, and is certainly America's most famous house of worship.
(Incidentally, I'm Christian, but not Roman Catholic, and my girlfriend is Jewish. Every year, we go to her synagogue at the end of Yom Kippur, and normally every year, we go to my church on Christmas Eve. I was quite disapointed she couldn't get out of work early to join me at my church, since going to that service is a highlight of the year for both of us)
The NBC feed of the Vatican Midnight Mass began at 11:30 P.M. EST (and I would think also at 11:30 PST). I suspect it may have been 10:30 Central and Mountain, but it's possible that in the Central and Mountain time zones, the "Saturday Night Live" "all-night" rerun may have been fed from 10:30 P.M.-12 Midnight CST/MST with the Vatican Mass at Midnight CST/MST. Maybe someone in the Midwest or the Rockies can verify this.
BTW, Last night, I went alone to a Christmas Eve service at a local church which began at 10 P.M. (My girlfriend, who works as a cashier in a parking garage, could not get the night off. It's the first time since we've known each other that she didn't go with me to the service). I went home after the service, and just before Midnight, my girlfriend dropped by, and we watched the St. Patrick's Midnight Mass on TV together.
At one time, the St. Patrick's Midnight Mass was on NBC. I don't know when the Vatican allowed live TV coverage of the Pope's Midnight Mass. I tend to think it wasn't until the early 1970's, and once the Vatican Mass became available for television broadcast in the 'States, NBC dropped the St. Patrick's Mass to show (on a tape-delay) the Vatican Mass.
I have visited St. Patrick's Cathedral, and I can tell you that the inside of the sanctuary is much bigger than it appears to be on TV! In physical size, it's one of the country's largest churches, and is certainly America's most famous house of worship.
(Incidentally, I'm Christian, but not Roman Catholic, and my girlfriend is Jewish. Every year, we go to her synagogue at the end of Yom Kippur, and normally every year, we go to my church on Christmas Eve. I was quite disapointed she couldn't get out of work early to join me at my church, since going to that service is a highlight of the year for both of us)
Re: Christmas Eve Midnight Masses On TV
> The NBC feed of the Vatican Midnight Mass began at 11:30
> P.M. EST (and I would think also at 11:30 PST). I suspect it
> may have been 10:30 Central and Mountain, but it's possible
> that in the Central and Mountain time zones, the "Saturday
> Night Live" "all-night" rerun may have been fed from 10:30
> P.M.-12 Midnight CST/MST with the Vatican Mass at Midnight
> CST/MST. Maybe someone in the Midwest or the Rockies can
> verify this.
>
> BTW, Last night, I went alone to a Christmas Eve service at
> a local church which began at 10 P.M. (My girlfriend, who
> works as a cashier in a parking garage, could not get the
> night off. It's the first time since we've known each other
> that she didn't go with me to the service). I went home
> after the service, and just before Midnight, my girlfriend
> dropped by, and we watched the St. Patrick's Midnight Mass
> on TV together.
>
> At one time, the St. Patrick's Midnight Mass was on NBC. I
> don't know when the Vatican allowed live TV coverage of the
> Pope's Midnight Mass. I tend to think it wasn't until the
> early 1970's, and once the Vatican Mass became available for
> television broadcast in the 'States, NBC dropped the St.
> Patrick's Mass to show (on a tape-delay) the Vatican Mass.
>
> I have visited St. Patrick's Cathedral, and I can tell you
> that the inside of the sanctuary is much bigger than it
> appears to be on TV! In physical size, it's one of the
> country's largest churches, and is certainly America's most
> famous house of worship.
>
> (Incidentally, I'm Christian, but not Roman Catholic, and my
> girlfriend is Jewish. Every year, we go to her synagogue at
> the end of Yom Kippur, and normally every year, we go to my
> church on Christmas Eve. I was quite disapointed she
> couldn't get out of work early to join me at my church,
> since going to that service is a highlight of the year for
> both of us)
>
St. Patricks was probably a good fit for NBC, since it's just across the street from Rockefeller Center. But with technology, you have to go with the mass straight from St. Peter's. Although, I'd prefer they'd show that at six, then show the New York mass at midnight.
> The NBC feed of the Vatican Midnight Mass began at 11:30
> P.M. EST (and I would think also at 11:30 PST). I suspect it
> may have been 10:30 Central and Mountain, but it's possible
> that in the Central and Mountain time zones, the "Saturday
> Night Live" "all-night" rerun may have been fed from 10:30
> P.M.-12 Midnight CST/MST with the Vatican Mass at Midnight
> CST/MST. Maybe someone in the Midwest or the Rockies can
> verify this.
>
> BTW, Last night, I went alone to a Christmas Eve service at
> a local church which began at 10 P.M. (My girlfriend, who
> works as a cashier in a parking garage, could not get the
> night off. It's the first time since we've known each other
> that she didn't go with me to the service). I went home
> after the service, and just before Midnight, my girlfriend
> dropped by, and we watched the St. Patrick's Midnight Mass
> on TV together.
>
> At one time, the St. Patrick's Midnight Mass was on NBC. I
> don't know when the Vatican allowed live TV coverage of the
> Pope's Midnight Mass. I tend to think it wasn't until the
> early 1970's, and once the Vatican Mass became available for
> television broadcast in the 'States, NBC dropped the St.
> Patrick's Mass to show (on a tape-delay) the Vatican Mass.
>
> I have visited St. Patrick's Cathedral, and I can tell you
> that the inside of the sanctuary is much bigger than it
> appears to be on TV! In physical size, it's one of the
> country's largest churches, and is certainly America's most
> famous house of worship.
>
> (Incidentally, I'm Christian, but not Roman Catholic, and my
> girlfriend is Jewish. Every year, we go to her synagogue at
> the end of Yom Kippur, and normally every year, we go to my
> church on Christmas Eve. I was quite disapointed she
> couldn't get out of work early to join me at my church,
> since going to that service is a highlight of the year for
> both of us)
>
St. Patricks was probably a good fit for NBC, since it's just across the street from Rockefeller Center. But with technology, you have to go with the mass straight from St. Peter's. Although, I'd prefer they'd show that at six, then show the New York mass at midnight.
Re: Christmas Eve Midnight Masses On TV
> Although, I'd prefer they'd show [St. Peter's] at six,
> then show the New York [St. Patrick's] mass at midnight.
>
Though unfortunately, showing St. Peter's live on NBC at 6 would interfere with local news and syndicated programming that evening, and maybe daytime shows on the west coast, if it was carried live, coast to coast.
> Although, I'd prefer they'd show [St. Peter's] at six,
> then show the New York [St. Patrick's] mass at midnight.
>
Though unfortunately, showing St. Peter's live on NBC at 6 would interfere with local news and syndicated programming that evening, and maybe daytime shows on the west coast, if it was carried live, coast to coast.
J
Joseph_Gallant
Guest
Re: Christmas Eve Midnight Masses On TV
While the Vatican Midnight Mass has long been carried live by both the cable news channels and EWTN, the only time I can ever recall it being shown live on a broadcast network (at 6 P.M. EST December 24th) was in 1978, the first year the Mass was celebrated by Pope John Paul II.
It was broadcast live by ABC, and I remember that Frank Reynolds and a priest from the Archdisocese of Washington were the commentators (they weren't in Vatican City; they were seated at the anchor desk in the ABC News Washington bureau which at the time was Reynolds' home base for "World News Tonight").
While the Vatican Midnight Mass has long been carried live by both the cable news channels and EWTN, the only time I can ever recall it being shown live on a broadcast network (at 6 P.M. EST December 24th) was in 1978, the first year the Mass was celebrated by Pope John Paul II.
It was broadcast live by ABC, and I remember that Frank Reynolds and a priest from the Archdisocese of Washington were the commentators (they weren't in Vatican City; they were seated at the anchor desk in the ABC News Washington bureau which at the time was Reynolds' home base for "World News Tonight").
Re: Christmas Eve Midnight Masses On TV
> While the Vatican Midnight Mass has long been carried live
> by both the cable news channels and EWTN, the only time I
> can ever recall it being shown live on a broadcast network
> (at 6 P.M. EST December 24th) was in 1978, the first year
> the Mass was celebrated by Pope John Paul II.
>
> It was broadcast live by ABC, and I remember that Frank
> Reynolds and a priest from the Archdisocese of Washington
> were the commentators (they weren't in Vatican City; they
> were seated at the anchor desk in the ABC News Washington
> bureau which at the time was Reynolds' home base for "World
> News Tonight").
>
Christmas Eve fell on Sunday that year (as it will in 2006).
which somehow makes it appropriate that ABC did carry the
Midnight Mass live. Perhaps NBC will do so next year.
My personal choice for a televised Christmas service is the
one from the National Cathedral in Washington, which WJLA/7
produces for other Allbritton stations and syndicates to
non-Allbritton stations as well (I see it on WGHP/8, a Fox o&o).
I've watched it every Christmas for about 20 years now and
think it's a beautiful service (I'm not Episcopalian but
no matter), very festive and meaningful.
> While the Vatican Midnight Mass has long been carried live
> by both the cable news channels and EWTN, the only time I
> can ever recall it being shown live on a broadcast network
> (at 6 P.M. EST December 24th) was in 1978, the first year
> the Mass was celebrated by Pope John Paul II.
>
> It was broadcast live by ABC, and I remember that Frank
> Reynolds and a priest from the Archdisocese of Washington
> were the commentators (they weren't in Vatican City; they
> were seated at the anchor desk in the ABC News Washington
> bureau which at the time was Reynolds' home base for "World
> News Tonight").
>
Christmas Eve fell on Sunday that year (as it will in 2006).
which somehow makes it appropriate that ABC did carry the
Midnight Mass live. Perhaps NBC will do so next year.
My personal choice for a televised Christmas service is the
one from the National Cathedral in Washington, which WJLA/7
produces for other Allbritton stations and syndicates to
non-Allbritton stations as well (I see it on WGHP/8, a Fox o&o).
I've watched it every Christmas for about 20 years now and
think it's a beautiful service (I'm not Episcopalian but
no matter), very festive and meaningful.
Re: Christmas Eve Midnight Masses On TV
> Christmas Eve fell on Sunday [in 1978] (as it will in 2006).
>
> which somehow makes it appropriate that ABC did carry the
> Midnight Mass live. Perhaps NBC will do so next year.
>
Not a bad idea. NBC takes over NFL Sunday night football in 2006. If the Peacock and Mr. Tagliabue are smart, the Christmas weekend 2006 "Sunday night" game will take place instead on Saturday night, December 23. That would give NBC one less excuse to not show live, the Vatican Midnight Mass the following night, which is Christmas Eve. Perhaps it could be rebroadcast at midnight ET for those coming home from attending their churches' own Christmas Eve services.
ixnay
> Christmas Eve fell on Sunday [in 1978] (as it will in 2006).
>
> which somehow makes it appropriate that ABC did carry the
> Midnight Mass live. Perhaps NBC will do so next year.
>
Not a bad idea. NBC takes over NFL Sunday night football in 2006. If the Peacock and Mr. Tagliabue are smart, the Christmas weekend 2006 "Sunday night" game will take place instead on Saturday night, December 23. That would give NBC one less excuse to not show live, the Vatican Midnight Mass the following night, which is Christmas Eve. Perhaps it could be rebroadcast at midnight ET for those coming home from attending their churches' own Christmas Eve services.
ixnay
> I just found it interesting how NBC was the only major
> network to televise the midnight mass from the Vatican,
> although it was on tape delay. Was there a bidding process
> like a sporting event, where only one network could do it in
> this country because they paid the most, or is NBC just THE
> Catholic network and the others are protestant? Does NBC
> show the Vatican every Christmas?
As a matter of facT, they DO!!
NBC has been airing the Midnight Mass from the Vatican on Christmas Eve ever since I can remember. I find it to be rather interesting that they show this every year, and it's a GOOD thing they do!!
The only problem in my area was that at midnight Central time, KTIV Ch. 4 in Sioux City, Iowa (my local NBC station), accidently interrupted the Mass and started running "WWE Friday Night Smackdown" from UPN at that time. They DID fix the problem, but when it happened, I simply turned on my favorite internet dance radio station and listened to that while I slept that night.
DeanSB<P ID="signature">______________
Dance Music RULEZ!!</P>
> network to televise the midnight mass from the Vatican,
> although it was on tape delay. Was there a bidding process
> like a sporting event, where only one network could do it in
> this country because they paid the most, or is NBC just THE
> Catholic network and the others are protestant? Does NBC
> show the Vatican every Christmas?
As a matter of facT, they DO!!
NBC has been airing the Midnight Mass from the Vatican on Christmas Eve ever since I can remember. I find it to be rather interesting that they show this every year, and it's a GOOD thing they do!!
The only problem in my area was that at midnight Central time, KTIV Ch. 4 in Sioux City, Iowa (my local NBC station), accidently interrupted the Mass and started running "WWE Friday Night Smackdown" from UPN at that time. They DID fix the problem, but when it happened, I simply turned on my favorite internet dance radio station and listened to that while I slept that night.
DeanSB<P ID="signature">______________
Dance Music RULEZ!!
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