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NBC10 over pan and scanning?

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robaustin

Is anyone who watches NBC10 on an SD TV seeing an over pan and scanned image?

I'm on Cablevision's Hamilton, NJ system (mercer county) and shows that show during primetime in letterbox are being pan and scanned very badly. Even shows that are supposed to show even on SD TVs in letterbox are showing this way.

I can switch to NBC4 from New York and see them in letterbox, but on NBC10 they are cut off improperly.

For example - on SNL - on weekend update - the graphic in the upper left corner - about a third is cut off on the left side - and actually part of the word is lost.

As a visual example - here's two pics I took of ER (initially I thought it was a software update to our SA4200 cable boxes but that is not the case):

http://www.flickr.com/photos/usdin/3054349611/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/usdin/3055184432/

As you can see - the name in the credits is cut off on both sides - should read "Janine Sherman Barrois" but the J is somewhat cut off and the S is not even visible. It's obvious in many scenes - where an actor is supposed to be in frame, and you can barely see them.

It's not my TV, as it occurs on all TVs in my house - even ones without a cable box with a straight analog cable to the TV, so it's whatever Cablevision is sending - whether that is what they are getting from NBC or not, I don't know.

So - wondering - is NBC10 doing this pan and scan, or is Cablevision? I've contacted Cablevision and they are looking into it but no answer. I contacted NBC10 with no response yet either. My workaround is to watch NBC4 from NYC which is fine, but I'd love an answer as to what is happening.

Anyone?

--*Rob
 
robaustin said:
Is anyone who watches NBC10 on an SD TV seeing an over pan and scanned image?

I'm on Cablevision's Hamilton, NJ system (mercer county) and shows that show during primetime in letterbox are being pan and scanned very badly. Even shows that are supposed to show even on SD TVs in letterbox are showing this way.

I can switch to NBC4 from New York and see them in letterbox, but on NBC10 they are cut off improperly.

For example - on SNL - on weekend update - the graphic in the upper left corner - about a third is cut off on the left side - and actually part of the word is lost.

As a visual example - here's two pics I took of ER (initially I thought it was a software update to our SA4200 cable boxes but that is not the case):

http://www.flickr.com/photos/usdin/3054349611/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/usdin/3055184432/

As you can see - the name in the credits is cut off on both sides - should read "Janine Sherman Barrois" but the J is somewhat cut off and the S is not even visible. It's obvious in many scenes - where an actor is supposed to be in frame, and you can barely see them.

It's not my TV, as it occurs on all TVs in my house - even ones without a cable box with a straight analog cable to the TV, so it's whatever Cablevision is sending - whether that is what they are getting from NBC or not, I don't know.

So - wondering - is NBC10 doing this pan and scan, or is Cablevision? I've contacted Cablevision and they are looking into it but no answer. I contacted NBC10 with no response yet either. My workaround is to watch NBC4 from NYC which is fine, but I'd love an answer as to what is happening.

Anyone?

--*Rob
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How old is your television? Can you change the format to make the image fit the screen? Check your remote or the set-up menu of your t.v.
 
I have a ten year old SD TV - so no options to change aspect ratio.

I've been speaking with someone at Cablevision on this. IT's visible on multiple TVs, either with or without cable box, and my neighbors, as well as my parents in Freehold who also have Cablevision see it.

So it's either:

1 - Cablevision is over zooming the picture

2 - NBC10 is sending to Cablevision an overzoomed picture for the SD channel

Wondering is folks on other cable systems are seeing the same thing. That would help me determine for sure if it is NBC10 or Cablevision.

--*Rob
 
Cablevision is most likely running WCAU's DT channel on the analog tier. I've seen other cable providers do that. It's not good for network programming which is supposed to be letterbox to preserve the aspect ratio on the SD feed.
 
WCAUTVNBC10 said:
Cablevision is most likely running WCAU's DT channel on the analog tier. I've seen other cable providers do that. It's not good for network programming which is supposed to be letterbox to preserve the aspect ratio on the SD feed.
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Is WCAU using Active Format Description? ???

I would think Cablevision would be set up for AFD to avoid cropping essential information from shows and commercials. ::)

Otherwise, they'd have to go letterbox and stay there. :p
 
Technical person at Cablevision I am speaking to about the issue said something to the affect of "it would be great if they WERE using AFD."

So that would lead me to believe it's Cablevision doing the cropping, not NBC 10. Which is kind of what I thought, since NBC4 from NYC is fine.

--*Rob
 
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