...may have meant the end of the traditional 10 Pm Eastern Time College Football game. With the exception of Hawaii (7 pm Hawaiian; 12 Midnight Eastern). I'm noticing that the the western conferences, specifically, Pac 10 has not offered more than a handful of 7 pm Pacific / 10 PM Eastern start times this season. Apparantly the schools want those newspaper columnists and coaches east of the Mississippi to make sure they see all the teams before 10 pm..so they can turn in at a reasonable hour...which means in the east, our football saturday is over around 10 pm....
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NCAA Football: East Coast Bias?
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Studio20 said:
Probably had more to do with the baseball playoffs and World Series (which, of course is done now) in prime time than anything else.
Besides, an "East Coast bias" (acutally, ESPN is usually accused of having a NY-New England bias) in college football is a non-starter. There's almost no Division 1A football north or east of Pennsylvania - Boston College, UConn, Buffalo, Army and Rutgers are it. And ESPN, with Kirk Herbstreit & Lee Corso being the prominent voices, plus the network's lucrative Big Ten contract, is more pro-midwest in football than anything. Basketball and MLB, on the other hand...
I was out west for a month in Washington State due to an illness and eventual death in the family and noticed that too. I loved it. I loved being able to watch all the sports I wanted and still go to bed at a decent hour. Plus waking up on a Saturday morning and having kickoff at 9 AM Eastern was a huge plus!
The West coast has always gotten the short end of the television stick when it comes to college football. That's pretty obvious. A lot of their teams are not as highly ranked as they should be year after year but the Pac 10 regularly dominated the Big 10 in the Rose bowl for a very long time.
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chuckydoll
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I wouldn't call it East Coast bias
The Pac-10 is weak in football this year. The Big East, Big 10, Big 12, ACC, SEC and Notre Dame more than make up for that.
For whatever that is worth, ABC sent Nebraska-USC nationwide and Oregon-Cal to most of the East Coast.
The Pac-10 is weak in football this year. The Big East, Big 10, Big 12, ACC, SEC and Notre Dame more than make up for that.
For whatever that is worth, ABC sent Nebraska-USC nationwide and Oregon-Cal to most of the East Coast.
Pat Cook said:Hi everyone:
You forgot Syracuse, UMass & Seton Hall.
I'm probably forgetting a few others as well.
JFYI
Cheers
Pat
Got Syracuse. UMass plays football in Division 1AA (Atlantic Ten). Seton Hall quit playing football in 1982, and they were Division 3 in that sport.
I was talking about strictly Division 1A football in the Northeast (New York, New Jersey, & New England), which consists of just six schools. Not much of a reason for ESPN to have an "East Coast bias" in that sport. No major-college football in NYC (Rutgers doesn't count as NYC does it?), only one school in Boston, in a predominately southeastern-US conference (ACC), and UConn football is still a bit of an oxymoron. ;D
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KeithE4 said:
Actually, ESPN is accused of having more of a Red Sox-Yankees bias. The issue here is that the Pac-10 is the only BCS conference west of the Rockies, and the Big 12 is the only other BCS conference west of the Mississippi. Only the Big 10 and SEC even have teams west of the Mississippi. College football is much bigger in the East, and I DON'T mean the Northeast.
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chuckydoll
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No "East Coast bias" -- just ignorance
Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey, is located in the New York DMA. So is Army.
ESPN had UConn-Rutgers on Sunday night and will have Louisville-Rutgers on 11/9. Go Scarlet Knights!
KeithE4 said:
Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey, is located in the New York DMA. So is Army.
ESPN had UConn-Rutgers on Sunday night and will have Louisville-Rutgers on 11/9. Go Scarlet Knights!
I think a lot of it has to do with the contracts of the teams/conferences and the
scheduling of it.
In the case of ABC which has numerous conferences to go to.
Also on the day when USC had a game alongside Notre Dame, you knew
they would show Notre Dame in more parts of the country.
My biggest concern is whether or not this new thing ESPN will be doing
with College Football on Sunday Nights will hurt the NFL.
My biggest deal of bias is not east vs. west, it's CBS pro SEC coverage vs.
FSN/TBS's Pac 10-Big 12 deal vs. the ESPN Monopoly.
It's like an election, who do you trust with your college football media?
scheduling of it.
In the case of ABC which has numerous conferences to go to.
Also on the day when USC had a game alongside Notre Dame, you knew
they would show Notre Dame in more parts of the country.
My biggest concern is whether or not this new thing ESPN will be doing
with College Football on Sunday Nights will hurt the NFL.
My biggest deal of bias is not east vs. west, it's CBS pro SEC coverage vs.
FSN/TBS's Pac 10-Big 12 deal vs. the ESPN Monopoly.
It's like an election, who do you trust with your college football media?
The biggest reason for the East Coast "Bias" is that the best college football game in 2005 was not seen in the East because it unfolded after midnight back east. USC-Fresno State's offensive explosion happened after 1 AM Eastern. Now, even FSN wants a game like that to be available in the East.
Re: No "East Coast bias" -- just ignorance
Whoa! Way too simplified:
LA-USC (what about UCLA? Huge - especially on the west side. Stanford and Cal are of interest too.)
Chicago-Notre Dame has a huge fan base in Chicago I guess (ummmm, Northwestern and Illinois probably get as much local coverage as ND)
Detroit-Michigan (what about Michigan State? Lots of fans in Motown and it's a big rivalry.)
Dallas, Houston-Texas (I'll save you from any Texans lurking here by adding Texas A&M and Texas Tech to that list. Not to mention U of Houston for Houston fans and TCU/SMU for D/FW)
NYC-National teams (ND, Michigan, Penn State and others) Yeah, NYC lacks a real "local" team.
Other large markets:
Philly - Penn State
Cleveland - Ohio State
San Francisco - Cal, Stanford
Washington DC - Maryland, UVA, Va Tech, Navy
Miami/Orlando/Tampa, etc. - Florida, Fl State, U of Miami (for S. Florida)
Boston - BC is big
Phoenix - Az State, U of AZ
Denver - CU Boulder and Co State each get big coverage and games shown locally.
Atlanta - UGa, Ga Tech
dxtrfn said:
Whoa! Way too simplified:
LA-USC (what about UCLA? Huge - especially on the west side. Stanford and Cal are of interest too.)
Chicago-Notre Dame has a huge fan base in Chicago I guess (ummmm, Northwestern and Illinois probably get as much local coverage as ND)
Detroit-Michigan (what about Michigan State? Lots of fans in Motown and it's a big rivalry.)
Dallas, Houston-Texas (I'll save you from any Texans lurking here by adding Texas A&M and Texas Tech to that list. Not to mention U of Houston for Houston fans and TCU/SMU for D/FW)
NYC-National teams (ND, Michigan, Penn State and others) Yeah, NYC lacks a real "local" team.
Other large markets:
Philly - Penn State
Cleveland - Ohio State
San Francisco - Cal, Stanford
Washington DC - Maryland, UVA, Va Tech, Navy
Miami/Orlando/Tampa, etc. - Florida, Fl State, U of Miami (for S. Florida)
Boston - BC is big
Phoenix - Az State, U of AZ
Denver - CU Boulder and Co State each get big coverage and games shown locally.
Atlanta - UGa, Ga Tech
Re: No "East Coast bias" -- just ignorance
I would say the Irish get a bit more coverage than Northwestern and Illinois do in Chicago, of course it helps matters that Notre Dame is usually at least a decent team while Illinois has been putrid since 2001 and Northwestern, despite being far closer to Chicago itself, has been horrible for decades aside from two exceptional seasons in the mid 90's. Northern Illinois has also gained in popularity in Chicagoland thanks to having developed into a perennial Mid-American Conference contender over the past few years. But no college team has ever approached the popularity of "da Bears".
BRNout said:
I would say the Irish get a bit more coverage than Northwestern and Illinois do in Chicago, of course it helps matters that Notre Dame is usually at least a decent team while Illinois has been putrid since 2001 and Northwestern, despite being far closer to Chicago itself, has been horrible for decades aside from two exceptional seasons in the mid 90's. Northern Illinois has also gained in popularity in Chicagoland thanks to having developed into a perennial Mid-American Conference contender over the past few years. But no college team has ever approached the popularity of "da Bears".
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